The games are afoot: general Euro 2004 discussion thread (6 Viewers)
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watching the Czech-Holland game I can't believe how on one hand he moves brilliantly up the field and contributes massively to his team and on the other how he dives at every opportunity he gets. The Holland player received a second yellow and as a result a RED CARD for a supposed tackle on Nedved when the replay CLEARLY demonstrated he did not even TOUCH Nedved. This is not new for Nedved as he has this habit of diving every time he senses a player around him. DISGUSTING. His brilliance is over-shadowed by this unsportsmanlike display and CHEAP strategy. SHAMEFUL.
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bullshit his brilliance is overshadowed by the way he takes to the ground. Did you hear anyone muttering about it after the match? The only thing I heard was everyone praising him.
The way Pavel plays dictates that defenders are going to get stuck into his legs, and very often, the best option is to hit the deck if you've taken a knock to the legs.
bullshit his brilliance is overshadowed by the way he takes to the ground. Did you hear anyone muttering about it after the match? The only thing I heard was everyone praising him.
The way Pavel plays dictates that defenders are going to get stuck into his legs, and very often, the best option is to hit the deck if you've taken a knock to the legs.
real mature Donny...real classy.
It is refreshing to see a team like czech republic.
They were loosing by two goals and mantaining their rythm, focus, keeping the same pace.
What a perfect duo Nedved-Poborsky. Force, speed, class, mental attitude.
Varos,Jankulosky, kohler, smicer, real team play.....
They dont spitt, or criticize team mates..they prefer to win.
They were loosing by two goals and mantaining their rythm, focus, keeping the same pace.
What a perfect duo Nedved-Poborsky. Force, speed, class, mental attitude.
Varos,Jankulosky, kohler, smicer, real team play.....
They dont spitt, or criticize team mates..they prefer to win.
Nicky, why do you said that? i understand the pain from Italy.sweden draw, but this is way too much...or maybe it was just a lapsus and you didnt really want to say that?...
Until now iwas taking you as a more or less serious soccer connosieur and thinking it was just a small personal mistake you being a rossonero,but now this....i prefer to think it was temporal insanity and forget it.
Said with all due respect.
Until now iwas taking you as a more or less serious soccer connosieur and thinking it was just a small personal mistake you being a rossonero,but now this....i prefer to think it was temporal insanity and forget it.
Said with all due respect.
I kind of agree with you here. I am/was a big Nedved fan yes but must admit he does over do it with the diving. I must also state that I think he picked up this trait at Juventus as I don't recall him being such a diver at Lazio.
Saying that Nedved wasn't touched is exagerration. He was touched and was fouled as the player haulted his run. But what I can condone is that it was a simple touch, one not worthy for Nedved to be on the ground like that and one not worthy of a yellow card. It was the ref to blame for that.
Nedved's performance however overshadowed that stupid incident.
Saying that Nedved wasn't touched is exagerration. He was touched and was fouled as the player haulted his run. But what I can condone is that it was a simple touch, one not worthy for Nedved to be on the ground like that and one not worthy of a yellow card. It was the ref to blame for that.
Nedved's performance however overshadowed that stupid incident.
Here's the situation now:
Group A:
Greece qualify with:
Spain qualify with:
Portugal qualify with:
Russia:
Cannot qualify
Group B:
France qualify with:
England qualify with:
Croatia qualify with:
Switzerland qualify with:
Group C:
Sweden qualify with:
Denmark qualify with:
Italy qualify with:
Bulgaria:
Cannot qualify
Group D:
Czech Rep.:
Already qualified
Germany qualify with:
Holland qualify with:
Latvia qualify with:
* = If Greece loses by one goal, they'll still qualify due to having a better GD in all games than Spain (H2H draw).
** = If FRA lose to SUI, and there's a winner in ENG/CRO, the winner will win the group and SUI will progress over France due to the H2H win. If ENG and CRO draw, however, three teams have 4 points, and thus, SUI needs to win by three goals to progress due to GD in common games.
*** = England will qualify with a draw regardless due to their 3-0 win v SUI
**** = With a 0-0 draw in SWE v DEN, ITA just needs to win due to Denmark's GD of 0-0 in common games, while ITA's is 1-1 (draw v SWE)
***** = If GER loses and HOL/LAT draw, HOL will progress due to better GD in common games if the draw is a scoring one, and due to GD in all games if the draw is 0-0.
Group A:
Greece qualify with:
- Win or draw v. RUS
- Loss by one goal less to RUS than Spain lose to Portugal *
- POR loss
Spain qualify with:
- Win or draw v. POR
- Loss v POR IF GRE lose by two or more goals than they do *
Portugal qualify with:
- Win v SPA
Russia:
Cannot qualify
Group B:
France qualify with:
- Win or draw v SUI
- Loss by two goals or less v SUI IF ENG and CRO draw **
England qualify with:
- Win or draw v CRO ***
Croatia qualify with:
- Win v ENG
Switzerland qualify with:
- Win v FRA IF either ENG or CRO wins **
- Win by three goals or more if ENG and CRO draw **
Group C:
Sweden qualify with:
- Win or draw v DEN
- ITA loss
Denmark qualify with:
- Win v SWE
- Draw v SWE IF draw is 2-2 or higher
- ITA loss
Italy qualify with:
- Win v BUL IF either SWE or DEN wins, or if they draw 0-0 ****
- 2 - 0 or higher win v BUL IF SWE and DEN draw 1-1
Bulgaria:
Cannot qualify
Group D:
Czech Rep.:
Already qualified
Germany qualify with:
- Win v CZE
- Draw v CZE IF HOL and LAT draw too
Holland qualify with:
- Win v LAT AND GER loss or draw
- Draw v LAT IF GER loses *****
Latvia qualify with:
- Win v HOL AND GER loss or draw
* = If Greece loses by one goal, they'll still qualify due to having a better GD in all games than Spain (H2H draw).
** = If FRA lose to SUI, and there's a winner in ENG/CRO, the winner will win the group and SUI will progress over France due to the H2H win. If ENG and CRO draw, however, three teams have 4 points, and thus, SUI needs to win by three goals to progress due to GD in common games.
*** = England will qualify with a draw regardless due to their 3-0 win v SUI
**** = With a 0-0 draw in SWE v DEN, ITA just needs to win due to Denmark's GD of 0-0 in common games, while ITA's is 1-1 (draw v SWE)
***** = If GER loses and HOL/LAT draw, HOL will progress due to better GD in common games if the draw is a scoring one, and due to GD in all games if the draw is 0-0.
hey watch out what you'r saying about Pavel Nedved. I don't like it.
a lot of players are falling to easily because they want a yellow card to rival's player. If that's the first thing that comes to your head when you hears Pavel Nedved, I'm sorry to say but you have no idea how to evaluate players' worth.
Pavel was brilliant!
a lot of players are falling to easily because they want a yellow card to rival's player. If that's the first thing that comes to your head when you hears Pavel Nedved, I'm sorry to say but you have no idea how to evaluate players' worth.
Pavel was brilliant!
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