The Financial Situation (23 Viewers)

[Knowah]

Keep in mind, high debt for us is (a) Stadium with a decent interest rate and (b) transfer debt.

The thing this doesn't take into account is transfer receivables which counteract that transfer debt. Just like how we buy players and push for the income spread over years, we sell in much the same way and those receivables aren't factored in when they talk about debt. SwissRamble was linked above and also has information on that. We have the second highest transfer receivables of the Deloitte report at 125m.


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And then of course, the Pandemic has had affects on the club and Juventus has reacted accordingly, fighting off the financial struggles with attempts to be better.


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And we are one of the leading clubs to reduce debt since the Pandemic started, a very healthy sign.


The continued reduction in debt due to the decrease in the wage bill will only further accelerate our ability to enter a more healthy position financially.

 

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[Post Ironic]

Real Madrid is such a fantastically run club post-Mou. Make smart, well-timed sales of players at max value, and bring in young stars to replace them. They hardly spend more on transfers than they sell since Mourinho.

 

[Knowah]

Real Madrid is such a fantastically run club post-Mou. Make smart, well-timed sales of players at max value, and bring in young stars to replace them. They hardly spend more on transfers than they sell since Mourinho.

Agreed.

They've made the right sales, the right purchases, and kep themselves under control without panic buying when Barca seemed to be dominant. They are almost the mirror opposite of how Barca is run, chasing after glory and ruining your club financially in a bid to remain relevent.

 

[Valerio.]

we've seen in this year transfermarket windows
Sales and buy no extra money for anyone.
It will be hard to reshape ourselves like that but we spent years wasting money we didn't have with Ronaldo,De Ligt,crazy wages players and so on.
Now next summer 2-3 high wages players will prolly leave (Sandro,Cuadrado and Rabiot 100% and probably Bonucci). Freeing 18m net wages + 5.5m (Bonucci)
Next the only high contract left will be Szczesny then if we don't make mistakes like signing freebies with long contract and high wages we could flex a bit our high revenue

 

[Knowah]

we've seen in this year transfermarket windows
Sales and buy no extra money for anyone.
It will be hard to reshape ourselves like that but we spent years wasting money we didn't have with Ronaldo,De Ligt,crazy wages players and so on.
Now next summer 2-3 high wages players will prolly leave (Sandro,Cuadrado and Rabiot 100% and probably Bonucci). Freeing 18m net wages + 5.5m (Bonucci)
Next the only high contract left will be Szczesny then if we don't make mistakes like signing freebies with long contract and high wages we could flex a bit our high revenue

Agreed. Financially, the future is very bright and hopefully the club has plans in place for moving forward.

Sandro 7
Cuadrado 4.5
Rabiot 7
Bonucci 5.5

is a massive outlay to get off our books. Club needs to have a plan in place.

 

[Valerio.]

we've seen in this year transfermarket windows
Sales and buy no extra money for anyone.
It will be hard to reshape ourselves like that but we spent years wasting money we didn't have with Ronaldo,De Ligt,crazy wages players and so on.
Now next summer 2-3 high wages players will prolly leave (Sandro,Cuadrado and Rabiot 100% and probably Bonucci). Freeing 18m net wages + 5.5m (Bonucci)
Next the only high contract left will be Szczesny then if we don't make mistakes like signing freebies with long contract and high wages we could flex a bit our high revenue

Agreed. Financially, the future is very bright and hopefully the club has plans in place for moving forward.

Sandro 7
Cuadrado 4.5
Rabiot 7
Bonucci 5.5

is a massive outlay to get off our books. Club needs to have a plan in place.

and you forgot the biggest win in these players leaving.
Rabiot aside all of them are well over 30yrs old.
Bonucci 36
Cuadrado 35
Sandro 32
Rabiot 28

so most them are end career players

 

[U Picciriddu]

Real Madrid is such a fantastically run club post-Mou. Make smart, well-timed sales of players at max value, and bring in young stars to replace them. They hardly spend more on transfers than they sell since Mourinho.

Yeah I have respect both for Bayern and Real in that regard. From a strategy/squad building pov we should definitely look at them and find our own way

 

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[Pirlo's Beard]

That Dybala kid looks okay as a Di Maria back up player. Maybe if they have to sell we should offer 25M and 4M wages which is a nice increase

Maybe Di Maria can put a word in for us and tell him what it's like at Juve

 

[kappa96]

That Dybala kid looks okay as a Di Maria back up player. Maybe if they have to sell we should offer 25M and 4M wages which is a nice increase

Maybe Di Maria can put a word in for us and tell him what it's like at Juve

Nah it's more like 25 million and 8 + 2 million in bonus for us.
If Villarreal calls then it's 10 million and 4 million for them.

His "love" for Juve manifests only from 8 million onwards.
For Roma it manifested at 3.5.
What can you do.

 

[JCK]

Will we be saved from this punishment if we don't "loan" Milik?

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

Will we be saved from this punishment if we don't "loan" Milik?

we don't loan milik.

we will buy him. loan part is just another installment.

 

[Scottish]

Will we be saved from this punishment if we don't "loan" Milik?

I was thinking the other way around, this fine will block our Milik assault

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we don't loan milik.

we will buy him. loan part is just another installment.

Reading "comprehension"

 

[GiocataGrande]

Keep in mind, high debt for us is (a) Stadium with a decent interest rate and (b) transfer debt.

The thing this doesn't take into account is transfer receivables which counteract that transfer debt. Just like how we buy players and push for the income spread over years, we sell in much the same way and those receivables aren't factored in when they talk about debt. SwissRamble was linked above and also has information on that. We have the second highest transfer receivables of the Deloitte report at 125m.


- - - Updated - - -

And then of course, the Pandemic has had affects on the club and Juventus has reacted accordingly, fighting off the financial struggles with attempts to be better.


- - - Updated - - -

And we are one of the leading clubs to reduce debt since the Pandemic started, a very healthy sign.


The continued reduction in debt due to the decrease in the wage bill will only further accelerate our ability to enter a more healthy position financially.

Finally some good news.

Thanks for sharing this

 

[JCK]

we don't loan milik.

we will buy him. loan part is just another installment.

I know, I know. That why I used the quotation marks.

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

Nah it's more like 25 million and 8 + 2 million in bonus for us.
If Villarreal calls then it's 10 million and 4 million for them.

His "love" for Juve manifests only from 8 million onwards.
For Roma it manifested at 3.5.
What can you do.

It was repeatedly stated that it was a tactical decision and that he didn't fit into the new "project," not a salary issue.

 

[kappa96]

It was repeatedly stated that it was a tactical decision and that he didn't fit into the new "project," not a salary issue.

Yeah, right!
That's way he also ended in Rome, because of the project, not because it was his only decent option.

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

Yeah, right!
That's way he also ended in Rome, because of the project, not because it was his only decent option.

What does our "squad planning" have to do with literally any other club?

 

[kappa96]

What does our "squad planning" have to do with literally any other club?

I'm surprised you don't think it's all about the money .
Squad planning, from this guys, lol.
Recent days should tell you how much they value "squad planning".

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

I'm surprised you don't think it's all about the money .
Squad planning, from this guys, lol.
Recent days should tell you how much they value "squad planning".

Both parties have confirmed it, there's no reason for both to lie.