The Financial Situation (57 Viewers)

[Valerio.]

Exxor can easely give us a much higher deal.

Hence, they can match uniteds deal and get away with it


Just make a deal over 2 seasons, and each time renew it to the same amount as the currently highest shirt sponsership in the world.

Dude i know they can. Exoor earns over 110b € per year but Elkann never gave us free money! Even the 120m he gave us 3years ago are being paid.
We actually have a 198m debts thx to those 120m he lent us. And we're paying him back bit by bit.

 

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[waschbeer]

Exxor can easely give us a much higher deal.

Hence, they can match uniteds deal and get away with it


Just make a deal over 2 seasons, and each time renew it to the same amount as the currently highest shirt sponsership in the world.

but seriously we should at least get 30 mil/year if exxor is not willing to pay that look outside the family

 

[Zacheryah]

Dude i know they can. Exoor earns over 110b € per year but Elkann never gave us free money! Even the 120m he gave us 3years ago are being paid.
We actually have a 198m debts thx to those 120m he lent us. And we're paying him back bit by bit.

Its a loan without rent tho

But i"ve allways been sceptical towars Elkann, Exxor, and his puppet Agnelli. They invest masses in other spots, and hardly anything in juventus. Fine, a rendless loan, what a massive contribution.

And then give juventus a slap in the face with a very mediocre shirtsponsership deal with one of their own brands

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but seriously we should at least get 30 mil/year if exxor is not willing to pay that look outside the family

Problem is that Agnelli is a puppet of Elkann, and he's in charge of stuff. So they do what they want basically

 

[Valerio.]

Its a loan without rent tho

But i"ve allways been sceptical towars Elkann, Exxor, and his puppet Agnelli. They invest masses in other spots, and hardly anything in juventus. Fine, a rendless loan, what a massive contribution.

And then give juventus a slap in the face with a very mediocre shirtsponsership deal with one of their own brands

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Problem is that Agnelli is a puppet of Elkann, and he's in charge of stuff. So they do what they want basically

I know remember when they bought that cricket club in England for almost 1b €??!?!?!?!

 

[Zacheryah]

I know remember when they bought that cricket club in England for almost 1b €??!?!?!?!

Yeah, and they have spend quite a bit on that club. Cause Elkann loves cricket.

 

[waschbeer]

I know remember when they bought that cricket club in England for almost 1b €??!?!?!?!

this can´t be right? did you mean 1 million?

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ok just googled it. fucking 450 mil euros for a cricket club. and apparently there was plot of land(probably worth 449m lol) involved.
I understand that a major part for investments is parked for ferrari but cricket before juve???

 

[Hydde]

yeh that sucks

 

[Sir Miss-A-Lot]

The funny thing is, we are as marketable as fomula 1 and cricket, sometimes it feels like they are using us as cheap marketing for the FIAT koncern (New Holland, then Jeep).. We should get more

 

[Paid-off-Ref]

Exxor is a publicly traded company. Elkann can't just give Juve money through a sponsorship above market value because it goes against the law. It would be unfair to the shareholders of Exxor because he is technically giving their money away. Yes, I know the Agnelli family owns a big stake in Exxor but that does NOT mean they can treat the company's money as their own. As CEO of Exxor his duty is to maximise shareholder value, if he works against that he's breaking the law. If Exxor decided to sponsor a cricket club then it was seen as an investment to increase shareholder value.

So quit bitching.

 

[Zacheryah]

this can´t be right? did you mean 1 million?

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ok just googled it. fucking 450 mil euros for a cricket club. and apparently there was plot of land(probably worth 449m lol) involved.
I understand that a major part for investments is parked for ferrari but cricket before juve???

I think now you understand why i dislike Elkann and his puppet Agnelli.


Bitching about us needing 350mil turnover to be competitive. Whilst there are numerous ways they could enable it for us.


Dont direct hate at Marotta, who needs to keep a tight budget, to avoid having to sell stars, and keep room for their improving contracts.

Direct it at the people who can actually give Marotta a significant higher budget to work with.

Lavezzi, Isco, Shaqiri ? Give Marotta the funds and he'll do it.

ANd if out asshole owners would do that, Conte wouldnt have left.

 

[Hængebøffer]

Exxor is a publicly traded company. Elkann can't just give Juve money through a sponsorship above market value because it goes against the law. It would be unfair to the shareholders of Exxor because he is technically giving their money away. Yes, I know the Agnelli family owns a big stake in Exxor but that does NOT mean they can treat the company's money as their own. As CEO of Exxor his duty is to maximise shareholder value, if he works against that he's breaking the law. If Exxor decided to sponsor a cricket club then it was seen as an investment to increase shareholder value.

So quit bitching.

Not to forget that most people here always brag about how we're not just some sugar daddy's bitch.

 

[Zacheryah]

Not to forget that most people here always brag about how we're not just some sugar daddy's bitch.

They'd be wrong, considering avvocado's investments in the past

 

[Sir Miss-A-Lot]

Exxor is a publicly traded company. Elkann can't just give Juve money through a sponsorship above market value because it goes against the law. It would be unfair to the shareholders of Exxor because he is technically giving their money away. Yes, I know the Agnelli family owns a big stake in Exxor but that does NOT mean they can treat the company's money as their own. As CEO of Exxor his duty is to maximise shareholder value, if he works against that he's breaking the law. If Exxor decided to sponsor a cricket club then it was seen as an investment to increase shareholder value.

So quit bitching.

Do you really believe buying an expensive cricket club was done in order to maximise shareholder value?? Cricket is only marketable in India and Pakistan... The rest of your post is quite on spot.

I was not saying they could just pump money up our asses, as you correctly mention, i was simply stating that i feel we have been used, thus getting a sponsorshipdeal at a price under market value. I might not be right, but some things do point towards it. Maybe your post wasn't even pointed towards me?

 

[Jem83]

They'd be wrong, considering avvocado's investments in the past

 

[Paid-off-Ref]

They'd be wrong, considering avvocado's investments in the past

Yeah too bad about that FFP.

 

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[Sir Miss-A-Lot]

Investments in Avocado were quite the new gold at some point:
http://beta.fool.com/acardenal/2012/12/04/how-invest-avocado-boom/17900/

 

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[Vlad]

Exxor is a publicly traded company. Elkann can't just give Juve money through a sponsorship above market value because it goes against the law. It would be unfair to the shareholders of Exxor because he is technically giving their money away. Yes, I know the Agnelli family owns a big stake in Exxor but that does NOT mean they can treat the company's money as their own. As CEO of Exxor his duty is to maximise shareholder value, if he works against that he's breaking the law. If Exxor decided to sponsor a cricket club then it was seen as an investment to increase shareholder value.

So quit bitching.

This is true. Isn't there usually some sort of tender in these cases, and it would be really odd if the 2nd best offer was vastly inferior. But there are other ways to invest into the club, beside supplying us with cheap loans or sponsorship agreements.

 

[Jem83]

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