The Financial Situation (42 Viewers)

[Vlad]

Where did you get the info on the 2011/12 revenues? Looked through the investor relations section on juventus.com and I didn't see anything.

From Deloitte and they got it from Juventus. They will announce it on 14th September latest.
You can find it here http://www.exor.com/uploads/297867-EXOR_Relazione_finanziaria_semestrale_2012.pdf
on page 54. under Ricavi netti (revenues) and it seems they recorded more than Deloiette anounced. It was 128M for this semester and 85M for the semestar before which amounts to 213M in 2011/12. Deloitte for some reason excludes revenues from players registration rights so that's the difference.

 

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[Paid-off-Ref]

From Deloitte and they got it from Juventus. They will announce it on 14th September latest.

Thanks, I work there (different office of course) but I haven't seen anything on our internal network. I'll look it up tomorrow, unless you can link me to the reporting source?

 

[Vlad]

Thanks, I work there (different office of course) but I haven't seen anything on our internal network. I'll look it up tomorrow, unless you can link me to the reporting source?

http://www.exor.com/uploads/297867-EXOR_Relazione_finanziaria_semestrale_2012.pdf
Page 54.

 

[Hust]

Soon we will probably be to Serie A what Bayern is to Bundesliga - so far advanced of everyone else in terms of financial power and infrastructure.

Sort of already are, I think.

 

[IrishZebra]

FFP is 40mil over 3 seasons right?

 

[Enron]

I thought it was revenue based?

 

[Paid-off-Ref]

Looks like our annual revenues are:

30.6.2011-31.12.2011: 85,4 million
http://www.juventus.com/wps/wcm/con...&CACHEID=c74c784c-da0f-4894-acff-36a25db908cb (Page 11)

31.12.2011-30.6.2012: 128,3 million
http://www.exor.com/uploads/297867-EXOR_Relazione_finanziaria_semestrale_2012.pdf (Page 37)

Total annual revenues: 85,4 million+128,3 million=213,7 million euros.
This up from 172,1 million for 2010/2011. Or an increase of 24%.

 

[j0ker]

FFP is 40mil over 3 seasons right?

The 2011–12 season is the first season which counts towards the 2014–15 assessment. Clubs, however, will be allowed to make a loss of €45 million (£39.4 million) over the three years, falling to €30 million from 2015–16 IF the loss was covered by equity contribution only. The first season that UEFA will begin actively monitoring the financial situation of individual clubs is 2013–14, but this will take into account losses made in the two preceding years (2011–12 and 2012–13).
From 2013-14 UEFA will be able to ban clubs from playing in European competitions the following season if the rules have not been met but it is not until 2018 that clubs will be expected to bring their annual losses below £8.8 million (based on 2010 exchange rates)

 

[Hust]

Looks like our annual revenues are:

30.6.2011-31.12.2011: 85,4 million
http://www.juventus.com/wps/wcm/con...&CACHEID=c74c784c-da0f-4894-acff-36a25db908cb (Page 11)

31.12.2011-30.6.2012: 128,3 million
http://www.exor.com/uploads/297867-EXOR_Relazione_finanziaria_semestrale_2012.pdf (Page 37)

Total annual revenues: 85,4 million+128,3 million=213,7 million euros.
This up from 172,1 million for 2010/2011. Or an increase of 24%.

And our losses?

What is our total net gain?

 

[j0ker]

Looks like our annual revenues are:

30.6.2011-31.12.2011: 85,4 million
http://www.juventus.com/wps/wcm/con...&CACHEID=c74c784c-da0f-4894-acff-36a25db908cb (Page 11)

31.12.2011-30.6.2012: 128,3 million
http://www.exor.com/uploads/297867-EXOR_Relazione_finanziaria_semestrale_2012.pdf (Page 37)

Total annual revenues: 85,4 million+128,3 million=213,7 million euros.
This up from 172,1 million for 2010/2011. Or an increase of 24%.

Not bad. With CL and all that hopefully we'll manage to get another 70mln.

 

[Paid-off-Ref]

41.6 million net loss for the period, way lower than the 91,5 million loss for the year 2010/2011. Agnelli said we should be around the break even point for this season.

 

[Enron]

And our losses?

What is our total net gain?

You want to identify profit.

 

[Hust]

You want to identify profit.

...which was how much? (sorry, bit confused)

 

[Enron]

...which was how much? (sorry, bit confused)

Subtract the costs from the net and you'll see if you have a profit.

But I don't think you have enough info to do a proper analysis. You'd have to have more than just revenue and "losses". You'd need to be able to measure day-to-day costs, transfers, etc.

 

[Nicholas]

Marotta stinks.

 

[Enron]

Don't do that any more Nick. You've got 8 points.

 

[Nicholas]

I was being sarcastic, sorry.

 

[Enron]

Personally I don't care, but I've seen similar posts get carded recently.

 

[Nicholas]

Thanks for the heads up.

 

[Enron]