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Which is the wealthiest club?
Real Madrid remain the world's highest-earning club, with income from the 2006-07 season of £261m, but Manchester United, with gross turnover up 21 per cent to £245m, are pushing them close once again. Barcelona are Real's only money rivals in Spain, while Arsenal are United's main challengers, on and off the pitch, in England. The figures for the top four in this table are from 2006-07, the remainder from 2005-06, the latest available. The top four are almost certain to be the top four when all data is available. United's figure includes gross revenues from Nike and MUTV (£210m without). Arsenal's figure was inflated by exceptional property income.
1. Real Madrid £261m
2. Man Utd £245m
3. Barcelona £216m
4. Arsenal £200.8m
5. Juventus £173.7m
6. Milan £165m
7. Chelsea £152.8m
8. Internazionale £142.8m
9. Bayern Munich £141.5m
10. Liverpool £121.7m
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Real Madrid remain the world's highest-earning club, with income from the 2006-07 season of £261m, but Manchester United, with gross turnover up 21 per cent to £245m, are pushing them close once again. Barcelona are Real's only money rivals in Spain, while Arsenal are United's main challengers, on and off the pitch, in England. The figures for the top four in this table are from 2006-07, the remainder from 2005-06, the latest available. The top four are almost certain to be the top four when all data is available. United's figure includes gross revenues from Nike and MUTV (£210m without). Arsenal's figure was inflated by exceptional property income.
1. Real Madrid £261m
2. Man Utd £245m
3. Barcelona £216m
4. Arsenal £200.8m
5. Juventus £173.7m
6. Milan £165m
7. Chelsea £152.8m
8. Internazionale £142.8m
9. Bayern Munich £141.5m
10. Liverpool £121.7m
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that shows us nothing...
Premier League clubs climb money list
Reuters - Friday, February 15 - Three Premier League clubs appeared in the top five of the Deloitte Football Money League for the first time last year.
Real Madrid were the world's largest revenue-generating club for the third successive season but Manchester United climbed two places to second. Chelsea were up two to fourth and Arsenal, buoyed up by their new stadium, climbed four places to fifth.
Barcelona, in third, complete the top five based on financial information, not including transfer fees, for the 2006/07 season.
"This is the first time that any country has had three clubs in the top five of the Money League," said Dan Jones, partner in the Sports Business Group at Deloitte. "Arsenal's move to the Emirates Stadium has transformed their revenues whilst Chelsea's revenue increase sees them return to the top five."
Real Madrid and Manchester United became the first clubs to generate more than 300 million euros in a season. Real enjoyed a 20 percent increase to take their total revenue to 351 million euros , while United's revenue grew even more quickly to reach 315 million.
"With the new Premier League television deals now online for the 2007/08 season, Manchester United have the opportunity to significantly close the gap on Real and a successful Champions League run may even see them challenge again for the number one position," said Jones.
The top 20 clubs' collective revenues grew by 11 percent to 3.7 billion euros in 2006/07, the highest rate of growth since 2002/03.
They now generate more than three times the combined revenues of the clubs in the first Money League in 1996/97.
The global top 20 is populated entirely by European clubs. Six English clubs feature in this year's Money League, along with four clubs from Germany and Italy, three Spanish clubs, two French clubs and one from Scotland.
Money League :
1 Real Madrid 236.2 351.0
2 Manchester United 212.1 315.2
3 Barcelona 195.3 290.1
4 Chelsea 190.5 283.0
5 Arsenal 177.6 263.9
6 AC Milan 153.0 227.2
7 Bayern Munich 150.3 223.3
8 Liverpool 133.9 198.9
9 Inter Milan 131.3 195.0
10 AS Roma 106.1 157.6
11 Tottenham Hotspur 103.1 153.1
12 Juventus 97.7 145.2
13 Olympique Lyon 94.6 140.6
14 Newcastle United 87.1 129.4
15 Hamburg SV 81.0 120.4
16 Schalke 04 76.9 114.3
17 Celtic 75.2 111.8
18 Valencia 72.4 107.6
19 Olympique Marseille 66.6 99.0
20 Werder Bremen 65.5 97.3
The four clubs that have dropped out of the top 20 are Manchester City, Rangers, West Ham United and Benfica.
Reuters
Reuters - Friday, February 15 - Three Premier League clubs appeared in the top five of the Deloitte Football Money League for the first time last year.
Real Madrid were the world's largest revenue-generating club for the third successive season but Manchester United climbed two places to second. Chelsea were up two to fourth and Arsenal, buoyed up by their new stadium, climbed four places to fifth.
Barcelona, in third, complete the top five based on financial information, not including transfer fees, for the 2006/07 season.
"This is the first time that any country has had three clubs in the top five of the Money League," said Dan Jones, partner in the Sports Business Group at Deloitte. "Arsenal's move to the Emirates Stadium has transformed their revenues whilst Chelsea's revenue increase sees them return to the top five."
Real Madrid and Manchester United became the first clubs to generate more than 300 million euros in a season. Real enjoyed a 20 percent increase to take their total revenue to 351 million euros , while United's revenue grew even more quickly to reach 315 million.
"With the new Premier League television deals now online for the 2007/08 season, Manchester United have the opportunity to significantly close the gap on Real and a successful Champions League run may even see them challenge again for the number one position," said Jones.
The top 20 clubs' collective revenues grew by 11 percent to 3.7 billion euros in 2006/07, the highest rate of growth since 2002/03.
They now generate more than three times the combined revenues of the clubs in the first Money League in 1996/97.
The global top 20 is populated entirely by European clubs. Six English clubs feature in this year's Money League, along with four clubs from Germany and Italy, three Spanish clubs, two French clubs and one from Scotland.
Money League :
1 Real Madrid 236.2 351.0
2 Manchester United 212.1 315.2
3 Barcelona 195.3 290.1
4 Chelsea 190.5 283.0
5 Arsenal 177.6 263.9
6 AC Milan 153.0 227.2
7 Bayern Munich 150.3 223.3
8 Liverpool 133.9 198.9
9 Inter Milan 131.3 195.0
10 AS Roma 106.1 157.6
11 Tottenham Hotspur 103.1 153.1
12 Juventus 97.7 145.2
13 Olympique Lyon 94.6 140.6
14 Newcastle United 87.1 129.4
15 Hamburg SV 81.0 120.4
16 Schalke 04 76.9 114.3
17 Celtic 75.2 111.8
18 Valencia 72.4 107.6
19 Olympique Marseille 66.6 99.0
20 Werder Bremen 65.5 97.3
The four clubs that have dropped out of the top 20 are Manchester City, Rangers, West Ham United and Benfica.
Reuters
They managed to stay above teams that were playing in the CL…that says a lot. In the end a return to European football will likely see them hit the top 5 again. Granted they don’t have the financial genius of Giraudo anymore but that exposure alone will make a huge difference regarding their sponsorship bargaining power. The new management may be retards when it comes to transfers but in the business realm they know what to do to create a return on investment. They turned FIAT around and have already struck sponsorship deals with companies that pay well. I happen to hate the companies but recognize the financial gain. There is however the added expense right now of the stadium renovations but if capitalized properly it won’t have too much of a negative effect and in the long term will add a lot more value.
In short, we're only fvcked in the short run....but the broader future is much brighter...financially atleast 
Still, it sucks we don't got millions to splash at the moment, Im pretty sure our money is tied up, Juve isn't saying it coz it'll destroy our reputation...but our transfer budget isn't as big as we might think
Still, it sucks we don't got millions to splash at the moment, Im pretty sure our money is tied up, Juve isn't saying it coz it'll destroy our reputation...but our transfer budget isn't as big as we might think
It seems the results of the last quarter of 2007 were positive:
http://www.corrieredellosport.it/Notizie/Calcio/18195/Juve:+utile+2+o+trimestre+5,4+mln
http://www.corrieredellosport.it/Notizie/Calcio/18195/Juve:+utile+2+o+trimestre+5,4+mln
It’s not that the budget is low for cash flow purposes or for lack of wealth. They are still the wealthiest in Italy by a long shot. Those figures only represent the 2007 fiscal year.
What really kills Juve’s bargaining power today regarding transfers is the team’s business model. I’m not criticizing the business model at all because it worked for a century. Simply put, regarding players they only pay out a percentage of what comes in. Remember Buffon and Nedved costing an arm and a leg? They came in only after the Zizou sale was finalized which was huge. Viera came in when Tamoil topped SKY with a their sponsorship promise etc.
Doing this ensured that the team would never have to borrow money for the transfer market (something AC and Inter are famous for) which eventually creates a scenario of requiring “creative accounting” to qualify for Serie A like those pricks in Milano did. They got away with it because of who they are but Juventus would never pull it off. Their owner doesn’t sponsor the league through a partner company (i.e. Moratti and Telecom where he is a director).
For now we have to be patient. They are selling few players but with the sale of Tiago and a few others I’m sure they will be able to put together a competitive squad for Europe. Keep in mind they are still sitting on some of the money that that prick Elkan put into the team to recapitalize it which (as much as I think he’s a scumbag) is the team’s saving grace right now. I fully expect the squad to spend 30 million or so for next year and will not need debt to do it (provided they qualify for the CL).
What really kills Juve’s bargaining power today regarding transfers is the team’s business model. I’m not criticizing the business model at all because it worked for a century. Simply put, regarding players they only pay out a percentage of what comes in. Remember Buffon and Nedved costing an arm and a leg? They came in only after the Zizou sale was finalized which was huge. Viera came in when Tamoil topped SKY with a their sponsorship promise etc.
Doing this ensured that the team would never have to borrow money for the transfer market (something AC and Inter are famous for) which eventually creates a scenario of requiring “creative accounting” to qualify for Serie A like those pricks in Milano did. They got away with it because of who they are but Juventus would never pull it off. Their owner doesn’t sponsor the league through a partner company (i.e. Moratti and Telecom where he is a director).
For now we have to be patient. They are selling few players but with the sale of Tiago and a few others I’m sure they will be able to put together a competitive squad for Europe. Keep in mind they are still sitting on some of the money that that prick Elkan put into the team to recapitalize it which (as much as I think he’s a scumbag) is the team’s saving grace right now. I fully expect the squad to spend 30 million or so for next year and will not need debt to do it (provided they qualify for the CL).