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Dan

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Mar 9, 2004
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#21
Tifoso Lou said:
Change the film to anti-Italian. Would you be surprised to see Italians protesting it?

If he had discovered something new and wanted to present it fine (even if showed the Church negatively)...but to re-hash old carp, is as racist or better Christianist as possible.
Please don't use analogies, being Italian is not a choice yet christianity is. It is not comparable.
 

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Tifoso

Sempre e solo Juve
Aug 12, 2005
5,162
#22
And I am done in this thread. Probably should have ignored it.


And again Erik, I am so sorry. That was completely wrong. And I honestly mean that.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,455
#23
Yeah, you go on and judge people in your little gossip club that unfortunately enough exists of 2 billion people.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
117,042
#25
Whatever happened to the good old days of this forum where opinions were not so harsh regarding religion? People could discuss without being offensive. Nowadays any thread that remotely has to do with religion turns into a pissing contest. Sad really.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,455
#26
Andy said:
Whatever happened to the good old days of this forum where opinions were not so harsh regarding religion? People could discuss without being offensive. Nowadays any thread that remotely has to do with religion turns into a pissing contest. Sad really.
I don't think you fully understand the relationship between catholicism and Europe, Andy. I don't think you understand just how dangerous Tifoso Lou is either. Yes, you read that right, dangerous.
 

Dan

Back & Quack
Mar 9, 2004
9,290
#27
Andy said:
Whatever happened to the good old days of this forum where opinions were not so harsh regarding religion? People could discuss without being offensive. Nowadays any thread that remotely has to do with religion turns into a pissing contest. Sad really.

These days never existed!
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
117,042
#30
Seven said:
I don't think you fully understand the relationship between catholicism and Europe, Andy. I don't think you understand just how dangerous Tifoso Lou is either. Yes, you read that right, dangerous.
I don't care if you think he's dangerous or not. The fact is nobody here is going to change their opinions overnight and there was once a time where opinions were expressed in a gentle manner. I refer you to religion discussions which were held up by people such as Torkel, John and others...people who have their opinions but don't flaunt them all just to cause controversy. The discussions I'm thinking about were controlled and friendly, not grotesque and distorted. Yes there was such a time, but nowadays it's rather impossible.

And I wonder why. :rolleyes2
 

Manuel

Senior Member
Aug 8, 2003
693
#31
A discussion about religion between believers and non-believers is simply impossible. Those that do not believe see the logic and rationality of not believing in a God. Those that do believe have their blinding faith, in which they chose not to accept the logical theories of the non-existence of a God, but rely on faith.
And if there is one thing that is true, it is the fact that faith is not logical, but that's what makes it faith.

So you have one side who brings forth logical statements and the other side who turns a blind eye to those statements, ignores them and just keeps on believing.
Outcome: rational discussion will never be possible, therefor just ban all religious discussion.

That being said let me just throw in my two cents.
Personally I believe that without any form of religion, the world would be a better place, I mean less wars, less suffering, more open-minded people, no prejuidice or discrimination based on believes, ... .
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
117,042
#32
Bardock said:
That being said let me just throw in my two cents.
Personally I believe that without any form of religion, the world would be a better place, I mean less wars, less suffering, more open-minded people, no prejuidice or discrimination based on believes, ... .
Then there will always be something else to fight about in life because the human race is simply confrontational. All religions could live together if imbecilic extremists with anything but religion on their minds would just be exterminated. Live and let live FFS.
 

Manuel

Senior Member
Aug 8, 2003
693
#33
True mankind will always be in some state of war. Power, those that have it and those that want it will always be fighting. But how many wars haven't there been fought in the name of religion? Or how many wars have been "justified" cause it was "God's will"?

I'm just saying that without religion there would be less, mankind's struggle for peace is afterall, neverending.
 

Cronios

Juventolog
Jun 7, 2004
27,526
#34
axlrose85 said:
untrue?or does it hold any weight?

i dont know too much about it as im not a christian.and lets not turn this into a religion vs religion war,or a god vs no god war.

has anything been proven as yet?i dont know any details,but there seems to be a lot of emphasis on 'The Holy Grail'.what exactly is it all about?

If you have never heard about the Holy Grail (remember the cup Indiana Jones was chasing) its suppossed to be the Holy Cup Jesus Christ used at His last supper
and some say it was used to gather His spilt blood too,
its an object of extreme importance for Cristianity,
there have been unleashed Crusades (sacred wars) for this item,
it was rumoured to posses miraculous powers (imortality?)

The film's writer copy pasted a bold but foolish theory that the Holy cup infact means, holy/royal blood,(stupid theory prooven untrue)
that those quests for this item were infact the curches attempt to hide a dark imaginary secret,
false accusations without any logical or historical background ,
just a myth, presented as facts, based on a sick play of words that could only disterb the current order for a while...
(and win some big money over the scandals publicity in the way)


PS Dan Brown got it so wrong, the Holy Grail is rumoured to be a Celtic myth, much older than Cristianity...
 

Zé Tahir

JhoolayLaaaal!
Moderator
Dec 10, 2004
29,280
#37
Andy said:
Whatever happened to the good old days of this forum where opinions were not so harsh regarding religion? People could discuss without being offensive. Nowadays any thread that remotely has to do with religion turns into a pissing contest. Sad really.
Remember this thread?. The most successful thread so far by bar. Thread of the month imo.
 

Desmond

Senior Member
Jul 12, 2002
8,938
#38
There isn't avoiding an anti-religious discussion in a thread with anything remotely connected to the book, least of all on this forum.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
117,042
#39
Zé Tahir said:
Remember this thread?. The most successful thread so far by bar. Thread of the month imo.
Somehow that thread was able to maintain a decent level of discussion. Search through those who particpated in that thread and you'll see why it was able to exist for so long..
 

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