The Azzurrini (U21-20-19...) Thread (26 Viewers)

Jul 23, 2010
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On the other hand, this selection of players from 1996-97 qualifying finished behind England and Georgia in their group and didn't make the 1998 tournament:

GK Gianluigi Buffon
GK Matteo Sereni
DF Luigi Sartor
DF Francesco Coco
DF Joseph Oshadogan
DF Claudio Rivalta
DF Alessandro Pistone
DF Raffaele Longo
DF Ivan Franceschini
DF Duccio Innocenti
DF Emanuele Pesaresi
DF Paolo Foglio
MF Tomas Locatelli
MF Alessio Tacchinardi
MF Stefano Fiore
MF Roberto Baronio
MF Massimo Ambrosini
MF Roberto Goretti
MF Domenico Morfeo
MF Jonathan Bachini
MF Diego De Ascentis
FW Cristiano Lucarelli
FW Fabrizio Cammarata
FW Nicola Ventola
FW Marco Carparelli
FW Francesco Totti
FW Claudio Bellucci
Most of these players weren't developed yet. You can see it was a shit team since 90% of these players went on to achieve nothing in their career.
 

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Alen

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Apr 2, 2007
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who is that Pamic who scored a hattrick?
He's the son of one ex-Croatian forward, Igor Pamic. His father was coaching a small Croatian team and he played there too, being their best player I believe. Some months ago Leverkusen signed him, but loaned him to Freiburg for the next season. He's a midfielder.

Oh, and even though he was only 18, he also played for the u-21 team of Croatia. I know him mostly from highlights, though.
 

Alen

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Apr 2, 2007
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italia is getting humiliated by spain :cry:
And Spain is, I think, playing with their B team because they already had the 1st place in the group secured, while Italy needed a win, and a big one, to make the semis.

As it looks right now, the Italian kids are leaving the EURO without a single goal scored and a goal difference 0:5.
 

Dostoevsky

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May 27, 2007
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And Spain is, I think, playing with their B team because they already had the 1st place in the group secured, while Italy needed a win, and a big one, to make the semis.

As it looks right now, the Italian kids are leaving the EURO without a single goal scored and a goal difference 0:5.
Well they must keep up with elders' tradition.
 
Jul 23, 2010
441
And Spain is, I think, playing with their B team because they already had the 1st place in the group secured, while Italy needed a win, and a big one, to make the semis.

As it looks right now, the Italian kids are leaving the EURO without a single goal scored and a goal difference 0:5.
Expected. Italy's youth system is fucked.
 

Alen

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Well, the French are hosting the tournament and in the first two matches they won twice by a big margin, scoring 9 goals against the Netherlands and Austria.
They are #1 favorites to win this tournament and the Croatian boys gave their all today so I'm not sure how good will they look against the physically (much) stronger French kids.
 
Jul 23, 2010
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Well, the French are hosting the tournament and in the first two matches they won twice by a big margin, scoring 9 goals against the Netherlands and Austria.
They are #1 favorites to win this tournament and the Croatian boys gave their all today so I'm not sure how good will they look against the physically (much) stronger French kids.
I still stand by my opinion. The french kids are all confident when it is early on but when things get tough they lose it, not so strong mentally, so for me home turf would be disadvantage.

Just my thoughts but I think (and hope) that Croatia will make the final.
 
Jul 23, 2010
441
A lot?

Not really. It's only a couple of good players. If you're thinking about them going to other clubs aboard.

Not sure if I got that right.
Most of them either go abroad or retire. Not many talents appear at 16 or 18, because different players have different bodies, therefore they peak at different ages.

People thinking that Messi will become the best in history because he was good since he was 20, watch him when he is 28, I bet my life that he will be a finished player.

So my point is, you can't judge a player he just needs to keep on practicing and improving. Italy is losing all youngsters because of stupidity. The future is fucked.
 

Dostoevsky

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Most of them either go abroad or retire. Not many talents appear at 16 or 18
I don't think that's the issue, then.

Only a couple of good players leave Italy at the young age. I don't think it's fair, but you can tell that's the reason why it's everything falling apart. Over the past 2 years only 3 promising youth players left Italy so that's not a big number. One kid was from Lazio while the other one is Petrucci. I think there was another one but I'm not so sure.

Yet again, that's not the real issue. It's just that the clubs aren't treating them nicely and it's like they want to ruin them. I also don't blame those kids if they leave as they only want to play and get a chance which is NOT possible in Italy and which is NOT possible with Italian coaches. Who was giving them a shot? Nobody. Well, Mourinho did but he's not even Italian.

They send their best players on loan to Serie C4 clubs who later disappear. They keep loaning them out somewhere and ruin everything they worked for over the past 10 years. The whole system has to change in Italy but it has nothing to do with that rule, nothing.
 
Jul 23, 2010
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I don't think that's the issue, then.

Only a couple of good players leave Italy at the young age. I don't think it's fair, but you can tell that's the reason why it's everything falling apart. Over the past 2 years only 3 promising youth players left Italy so that's not a big number. One kid was from Lazio while the other one is Petrucci. I think there was another one but I'm not so sure.

Yet again, that's not the real issue. It's just that the clubs aren't treating them nicely and it's like they want to ruin them. I also don't blame those kids if they leave as they only want to play and get a chance which is NOT possible in Italy and which is NOT possible with Italian coaches. Who was giving them a shot? Nobody. Well, Mourinho did but he's not even Italian.

They send their best players on loan to Serie C4 clubs who later disappear. They keep loaning them out somewhere and ruin everything they worked for over the past 10 years. The whole system has to change in Italy but it has nothing to do with that rule, nothing.
The teams do all of this because they can't sign the kids professionaly unless they turn 18.
 

Alen

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Apr 2, 2007
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impressive performance by a midfielder against a tough opponent like portugal.
Well, the best 3 players of this team are midfielders, so it's not surprising that a midfielder was the MOM against Portugal. Ozobić, Pamić and Andrijašević. Two of them were already bought by Spartak Moscow and Leverkusen, and Andrijašević, who is actually the leader of this team, will very probably be bought from Hajduk very soon (Apparently he played great against Spain and scored a fantastic goal, so he might have attracted Spanish interest).
These three actually scored all 6 goals for Croatia in this Euro.
Against France I'm not worried about the midfield. We can take on them there. But both the attack and defense will have to give 100% in order to make the final. A problem is that the best defender got a red card today.

Doesn't matter. By making the semis we also made the u-20 world cup :weee:
 

JuveJay

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Mar 6, 2007
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Two bad defensive mistakes and a penalty for Italy today, even Destro can't take his chances. Spain were clearly better overall though, it is a modest selection from Italy who did well in qualification but not here, no experience in the squad at all.
 

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