Temporary Sanchez thread (7 Viewers)

[AOD4]

We can only sign Sanchez if he tells Barca he want's us and wont move else where. On top of that, Barca will be desperate to cash in to fund Suarez move, but I doubt we are capable of paying in the 30 million claimed by the media, unless its a player+cash deal. They were hot on Isla back in Udinese time.

 

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[LiquidPLP]

Come on guys this transfer is not possible even though we all would want him here (besides RUS I guess). Even If we end up paying 25m for Iturbe and Arsenal buys Sanchez for 30m that's a huge difference still. It's because of wages. You have to look at the budget like this: transfer fee + wages go from the same bag. You can manipulate how much you spend on a transfer fee by giving lower wages or spend little on the transfer fee and a lot on wages. What we're doing with Iturbe is the former but with Sanchez it's probably impossible to find a solution within the budget.

Another thing is instalments. This is what foreign clubs don't like, they could accept two instalments I guess but it seems we'd want more.

 

[Xperd]

Iturbe + Morata isn't a big investment? That would cost almost as much, I doubt Sanchez would earn more than 1-2m extra per year over Iturbe & Morata

Hopefully we can sell a couple more players like Isla & Padoin plus looks like Quag is on the way out too

I dont know how much Morata is going to cost in the end or if he is even going to come in the first place.Plus we dont know if its loan + obligation or an upfront payment deal.

But regarding Iturbe,the price would be surely over 3-4 installments which Italien clubs would accept as opposed to foreign clubs and his wages would be about 1.5m-2m which is more than twice as less than what Sanchez would be earning here(minimum 4-4.5m)

 

[Andy21]

If we sell Isla, Padoin, Quags, Ziegler, Motta and one of Bonucci / Ogbonna, maybe we can get him.
+ don't forget that next year we will get new contract with adidas...

 

[Vlad]

People act as if foreign clubs don't do deals in installments

Arsenal payed 40m for Ozil last summer immediately

Barca will easily pay 80m for Suarez

 

[Xperd]

People act as if foreign clubs don't do deals in installments

Arsenal payed 40m for Ozil last summer immediately

Barca will easily pay 80m for Suarez

Ofcourse they do.50m for Oezil and 80m for Suarez are huge sums so ofcourse it involves installments.
Problem for us is we do installments for relatively small sums.For example we wanted to pay 25m for Higuain in 4-5 installments and foreign clubs wont readily accept those deals.

 

[Vlad]

Ofcourse they do.50m for Oezil and 80m for Suarez are huge sums so ofcourse it involves installments.
Problem for us is we do installments for relatively small sums.For example we wanted to pay 25m for Higuain in 4-5 installments and foreign clubs wont readily accept those deals.

And where did you get this silly idea? Is there any credible source that would confirm this?

 

[Xperd]

And where did you get this silly idea? Is there any credible source that would confirm this?

Reliable Spanish sources when we were in for him last summer.Even GDS reported it if i seem to remember.
On my mobile, i cant find the link right now.
Its not a silly idea,its a legit theory which explains why we cant do big transfers=lack of liquidity

 

[Vlad]

Reliable Spanish sources when we were in for him last summer.Even GDS reported it if i seem to remember.
On my mobile, i cant find the link right now.
Its not a silly idea,its a legit theory which explains why we cant do big transfers=lack of liquidity

So basically you got nothing credible, since GDS and so called reliable Spanish sources don't qualify as such. We weren't able to do big transfer for other reasons. In situation when you need to replace 7-8 first team players, you can't aim for 30-40m purchases.

You are aware that in the last 2 years we have spend more than 120m on transfers? Last year our investment into personnel was 68m according to Juve's cash flow statement.

 

[Xperd]

Yes indeed.That is why Conte keeps moaning about us not able to afford players which cost 20m and more.Its because we need 7-8 players every year.Im convinced now

 

[Vlad]

Yes indeed.That is why Conte keeps moaning about us not able to afford players which cost 20m and more.Its because we need 7-8 players every year.Im convinced now

You still didn't answer how is it possible that we spent 68m in one transfer window, unless we indeed bring at least dozen players each year.

 

[Xperd]

You still didn't answer how is it possible that we spent 68m in one transfer window.

Before that answer my counter question.Why is it that our board constantly remind us about Juve not being able to afford expensive players.I mean surely there has to be some logical explanation to it no ? Despite the sums we spent in the market in the last few yrs.

 

[Vlad]

Before that answer my counter question.Why is it that our board constantly remind us about Juve not being able to afford expensive players.I mean surely there has to be some logical explanation to it no ? Despite the sums we spent in the market in the last few yrs.

I already gave my answer to that; necessity to buy more than a few players each year. In theory they could afford expensive players (using debt of course like they have been doing), but up until now they were filling the gaps. Here is how much Juventus spent on transfers last year:
pg 81, investment in players registration rights; and you can even see the investments for the previous year which is more than 100m.
http://www.juventus.com/wps/wcm/con...&CACHEID=1ef55ed1-99f4-4c9c-8010-db678fe04f5a

 

[Xperd]

Saying we had the necessity to buy depth each yr cant be the only explanation.There's a reason why we chickened out of the RVp deal(we offered 10m who then was the best player in epl lol) and many such deals and that is because they were huge investments and we couldnt afford it or dint have the liquidity to do so.

 

[Vlad]

Saying we had the necessity to buy depth cant be the only explanation.There's a reason why we chickened out of the RVp deal(we offered 10m who then was the best player in epl lol) and many such deals and that is because they were huge investments and we couldnt afford it or diny have the liquidity to do so.

Dude, check the link above that I posted. I even pointed you to the right page and that is cash flow statement, all inflows and outflows of cash within a year. Nothing to do with what you have been saying. If we manage to spend 68m in one summer, 100m year before (cash outflow, not expense), what you have posted doesn't make much sense. We use leverage financing, which is allowing us to surpass lack of liquid assets.

 

[Xperd]

Im on my mobile,that link isnt opening for me.

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Im not finance experd ofcourse and what u said is correct,i understood your post.
But there has to be some reasonable explanation about why we chickened out of the big money deals,rvp for example,is it because we thought Isla and Giovinco was more of a priority than an RVP? Im jus asking a simple question.

 

[Dostoevsky]

Im on my mobile,that link isnt opening for me.

Liar

 

[Xperd]

Liar

Swear to god.Id assume its a .pdf file and pdf files dont open on my Mobile

 

[Dostoevsky]

Swear to god.Id assume its a .pdf file and pdf files dont open on my Mobile

Dunno. Maybe forum bugs at some point. But usually posts that are written from a mobile look like this, or in some occasions a bit different

 

[Xperd]

I've been posting from my mobile since the last 3 months (Very rarely i've used my comp)
I can guarantee u,im not lying right now