Tactics and Formations (32 Viewers)

[Hydde]

Just play the godamn trident

 

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[Vlad]

3-4-3 or 5-2-3

GK

Demiral - Bonucci - de Ligt

Cuadrado - Pjanic - Matuidi - Sandro

CR7 - Higuain - Dybala​

Id like this but...

 

[kao_ray]

Id like this but...

Sarri, 3-4-3 is not the most defensive system in the World. It depends on how you use it. If the wings/full backs are Sandro and Danilo - it's defensive, if they are Cuadrado and Costa - it's offensive. Also, it depends on how up the field are the back three playing. If they are pushing higher - it's offensive, if they are staying deep - it's defensive. And so on and so on. Both de Ligt and Bonucci can help building our attacks, we can also use Ramsey as one of the midfielders, there are so many options with this system.

 

[s4tch]

didn't see it posted here: team of the decade by whoscored
https://www.whoscored.com/Articles/...do-missses-out-on-Juventus-team-of-the-decade

it's based on stats so it's debatable, but every single lineup would be controversial. the only thing i'd change slightly is the midfield: instead of pogba-vidal-pirlo, it has to be vidal-pirlo-pogba obviously. and of course i miss both marchisio and barza. a marchisio-pirlo-pogba mid with vidal as tq instead of dybala would make sense, too.

 

[Strickland]

Licht ahead of Cuads for me, Cuads can be subbed in. Barza ahead of Bonucci as well.

 

[Wittl]

Licht ahead of Cuads for me, Cuads can be subbed in. Barza ahead of Bonucci as well.

This.

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And Allegri as coach.

 

[vodka]

Tevez was too good, but I have Vidal's shirt

 

[JCK]

didn't see it posted here: team of the decade by whoscored
https://www.whoscored.com/Articles/...do-missses-out-on-Juventus-team-of-the-decade

it's based on stats so it's debatable, but every single lineup would be controversial. the only thing i'd change slightly is the midfield: instead of pogba-vidal-pirlo, it has to be vidal-pirlo-pogba obviously. and of course i miss both marchisio and barza. a marchisio-pirlo-pogba mid with vidal as tq instead of dybala would make sense, too.

Any formation for the past decade without Lichtsteiner is invalid.

 

[Strickland]

This.

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And Allegri as coach.

Do they rate coaches performance? I know some Italian papers do that

 

[s4tch]

Any formation for the past decade without Lichtsteiner is invalid.

it is, but since it's based on the stats, he was never gonna make it anyway because of his passing accuracy.

and there goes the raison d’être of stat-based ratings in football too.

 

[Juventinoo]

You are replying to a different topic. His question was why Sarri doesn't play the strikers we have together, I posted what Sarri has said.

Nothing about the 3-4-3. You can play the 3-4-3 or the 4-3-1-2 with any combination of our players. The problem is playing Ronaldo, Higuain and Dybala together the whole season.

exactly ....relying in all of the 3 at the front is too risky, someone could be injured and we are in trouble

of course, Costa can fit in too, but he is always injured .....

then later let's revert to 4 3 3 again ....

another issue, impact sub idea will be lost trick from Sarri ....

who else in the team will hold that name ....

Dybala coming at late ib the match is a great idea ....and you know how it's fruitful ....

anyway ... deciding on formation is too risky and not easy, it could create more problems ...than solutions ...

 

[X Æ A-12]

do you guys think that dygualdo is maybe a bit bold and we should try another midfielder at CAM to bring more balance? Something like this:

Bentancur - Pjanic - Rabiot
------------- Ramsey/ Costa
-------------Dybala - Ronaldo

Hopefully someone who will put in more work than Dybala so we can dump Matuidi out for Rabiot without looking so unbalanced. Ramsey's got legs

 

[Valerio.]

do you guys think that dygualdo is maybe a bit bold and we should try another midfielder at CAM to bring more balance? Something like this:

Bentancur - Pjanic - Rabiot
------------- Ramsey/ Costa
-------------Dybala - Ronaldo

Hopefully someone who will put in more work than Dybala so we can dump Matuidi out for Rabiot without looking so unbalanced.

to have Ronaldo-Higuain-Dybala perm on we'd need another kind of midfield.

Also there is a problem in that Trio.
Higuain isn't fast enough
Dybala isn't a winger and often has to drop to mid for the playmaking while the likes of Matuidi get ahead as forward...
Ronaldo dunno why want to play on the wing when he isn't effective as he rarely dribble a player and score

 

[Boksic]

do you guys think that dygualdo is maybe a bit bold and we should try another midfielder at CAM to bring more balance? Something like this:

Bentancur - Pjanic - Rabiot
------------- Ramsey/ Costa
-------------Dybala - Ronaldo

Hopefully someone who will put in more work than Dybala so we can dump Matuidi out for Rabiot without looking so unbalanced. Ramsey's got legs

The front 3 are fine, the problem is the absolute lack of width. MDS offers nothing. It makes things so much more difficult when he doesn't bother to get up the pitch, there is nobody to pass to to keep possession, stretch the game and open space for others. Then we have Matuidi giving width on the left with no technical ability.

We also have no width to stop crosses, nobody from midfield tracking runners and a zonal marking system that is not working. There are so many issues.

 

[Salvo]

The front 3 are fine, the problem is the absolute lack of width. MDS offers nothing. It makes things so much more difficult when he doesn't bother to get up the pitch, there is nobody to pass to to keep possession, stretch the game and open space for others. Then we have Matuidi giving width on the left with no technical ability.

We also have no width to stop crosses, nobody from midfield tracking runners and a zonal marking system that is not working. There are so many issues.

We need a really good RB

It's also why we look better especially offensively when Cuadrado is playing

Sandro is hot and cold as well

Eventually Matuidi should be benched, someone else can run, we need players that can hurt the other team in possession. He can't do that.

Those two things would solve a lot

 

[X Æ A-12]

The front 3 are fine, the problem is the absolute lack of width. MDS offers nothing. It makes things so much more difficult when he doesn't bother to get up the pitch, there is nobody to pass to to keep possession, stretch the game and open space for others. Then we have Matuidi giving width on the left with no technical ability.

We also have no width to stop crosses, nobody from midfield tracking runners and a zonal marking system that is not working. There are so many issues.

the 4-3-1-2 in general is a dumb formation unless we have vintage Vidal, pogba and cheesio to make it work.

We don't so we should attempt to do something else. the midfield isn't good enough to play such a midfield heavy lineup

 

[Boksic]

the 4-3-1-2 in general is a dumb formation unless we have vintage Vidal, pogba and cheesio to make it work.

We don't so we should attempt to do something else.

True but given our options are the fact that the only time we have looked dangerous is when Ronaldo-Higuain-Dybala have played together, I'd stick with it. The only other credible options are 3-5-2 or 4-4-2.

 

[X Æ A-12]

True but given our options are the fact that the only time we have looked dangerous is when Ronaldo-Higuain-Dybala have played together, I'd stick with it. The only other credible options are 3-5-2 or 4-4-2.

3-4-1-2

 

[Xperd]

The form of Demiral

The fact that 3 at the back would have Bonucci less exposed

The fact that Cuadrado can slot in comfortably as a wing-back thereby hiding the weakness of the RB position

The fact that the useless Matuidi is wasting one slot in midfield making us look even weaker down the middle

All these factors are crying out for 3 at the back to be played

 

[kao_ray]

The form of Demiral

The fact that 3 at the back would have Bonucci less exposed

The fact that Cuadrado can slot in comfortably as a wing-back thereby hiding the weakness of the RB position

The fact that the useless Matuidi is wasting one slot in midfield making us look even weaker down the middle

All these factors are crying out for 3 at the back to be played

But Sarri doesn't like 3 at the back so fuck it.