Summer mercato thread 2025-26 (175 Viewers)

[iosono.bianconero]

If we manage to bring Gyokeres or Osimhen alongside with theo hernandes then milan can two vlahovics for all I care.

 

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[GarfielD]

I can't believe people here are seriously entertaining the idea of Theo. To these people I respectfully ask how many Milan games have you seen in the last 2 years? Even worse is his attitude. He's overrated AF and already at his technical ceiling. There is a reason why no one else in Europe is interested, even at a bargain price.

Why should we strengthen Milan just to get Susan's wages off the books? We lose this swap deal.

Have we already given up on Juan Cabal?

Theo is 27 years old, and he is very good player. The fact that he has been shit for Meelan in the past season or two doesnt mean he will be shit here.

Also, once we offload Dusan for 20m a la Chiesa you would wish we traded him for a player like Theo.

Btw Cabal is nowhere near a starting lwb for a team like Juve. Solid backup but nothing more.

 

[Xperd]

If people hated likes of Fagiot, wait until Theo shows up

I think he's the type of player that'll probably retire from football in his early 30s or maybe even sooner.

 

[ClaudiOHHH]

How do we have money?

 

[DAiDEViL]

If people hated likes of Fagiot, wait until Theo shows up

I think he's the type of player that'll probably retire from football in his early 30s or maybe even sooner.

Not to mention his defending always sucked ass. Him and Cambiaso on the wings, we be leaking goals like crazy.

 

[Knowah]

How do we have money?

We've basically wiped out of insane wage bill down to much more manageable levels, we've been more controlled on transfers, buying using a player swap, loan with obligations, or loans without obligations. We've got only one more insanely bad player from the Paratici era left (Arthur) and he's just "extended" for another year but at half the wages, further reducing his wage bill hit and our amortization schedule.

It's actually insanely well-ran how we went a whole season without a main shirt sponsor and yet had one of our more financially sound years in a long time. Speaks volumes to the process behind the scenes to clean up the books, clear out bad contracts, and move players who don't fit us on LOANS where other teams will pay some of their wages. I know people would prefer these players were transferred, that is always the first hope, but even just loaning them with a portion of their wages paid by somebody else is massive.

This is one of the reasons that Vlahovic is probably on his way out. His struggles are frustrating, yes, but really its his wages. In a lean organization (which is our goal) his wages are just too crazy even if he was a 20-25 goal scorer.

 

[Bjerknes]

Not to mention his defending always sucked ass. Him and Cambiaso on the wings, we be leaking goals like crazy.

That's why we have our very own world class English Bastoni sitting behind them.

 

[DAiDEViL]

That's why we have our very own world class English Bastoni sitting behind them.

And the Italian Gatti

 

[ClaudiOHHH]

Thanks, good shit

What about our spending spree last summer which resulted in what looks like complete busts? Luiz, Nico, Koop?

 

[Knowah]

Thanks, good shit

What about our spending spree last summer which resulted in what looks like complete busts? Luiz, Nico, Koop?

Luiz was countered by the sale of players to Aston Villa. Those sales were immediate and his purchase is amortized.

Nico was a loan with obligation iirc and that purchase obligation is spread out across three years. So we even delayed those payments back a year with the loan.

Koopmeiners was really our only one "big transfer" and the price is spread out across 3 years iirc.

 

[ClaudiOHHH]

Thanks again - good work by Giuntoli *I guess*

 

[Bjerknes]

Luiz was countered by the sale of players to Aston Villa. Those sales were immediate and his purchase is amortized.

Nico was a loan with obligation iirc and that purchase obligation is spread out across three years. So we even delayed those payments back a year with the loan.

Koopmeiners was really our only one "big transfer" and the price is spread out across 3 years iirc.

We still spent 30M on Luiz and Barrenchea did well for Valencia last season. I still consider it a 50M loss.

 

[Knowah]

We still spent 30M on Luiz and Barrenchea did well for Valencia last season. I still consider it a 50M loss.

Okay.

You keep track of the Bjerknes Juventus Financial Statements and I'll keep following the actual Financial Statements and we can both be happy in those worlds.

 

[Bjerknes]

Okay.

You keep track of the Bjerknes Juventus Financial Statements and I'll keep following the actual Financial Statements and we can both be happy in those worlds.

Sorry, I've had a lot of bad experiences with Tuz Accountants, LLC. I've taken my business to AI firms.

 

[Xperd]

Not to mention his defending always sucked ass. Him and Cambiaso on the wings, we be leaking goals like crazy.

Effectively we'll have two Cancelo's on the flanks. Would've been okay if we had prime BBC in defense but as pointed out, we have guys like Kelly and Gatti behind them which would be a disaster in the making.

 

[Osman]

Okay.

You keep track of the Bjerknes Juventus Financial Statements and I'll keep following the actual Financial Statements and we can both be happy in those worlds.

 

[Xperd]

We've basically wiped out of insane wage bill down to much more manageable levels, we've been more controlled on transfers, buying using a player swap, loan with obligations, or loans without obligations. We've got only one more insanely bad player from the Paratici era left (Arthur) and he's just "extended" for another year but at half the wages, further reducing his wage bill hit and our amortization schedule.

It's actually insanely well-ran how we went a whole season without a main shirt sponsor and yet had one of our more financially sound years in a long time. Speaks volumes to the process behind the scenes to clean up the books, clear out bad contracts, and move players who don't fit us on LOANS where other teams will pay some of their wages. I know people would prefer these players were transferred, that is always the first hope, but even just loaning them with a portion of their wages paid by somebody else is massive.

This is one of the reasons that Vlahovic is probably on his way out. His struggles are frustrating, yes, but really its his wages. In a lean organization (which is our goal) his wages are just too crazy even if he was a 20-25 goal scorer.

Junktoli did a pretty decent job in cleaning up the books. Everything else was just a plain disaster. I think he got sacked more for his poor interpersonal relationships with players/coaches more than his signings which were also mostly a disaster.

 

[Knowah]

Sorry, I've had a lot of bad experiences with Tuz Accountants, LLC. I've taken my business to AI firms.

It's not a loss to buy an asset. That's accounting 101.

When I buy a car for 10,000, I didn't "lose" 10k. I have an asset hopefully worth 10k. Sorry you're unfamiliar with it. Now you can argue that the asset is no longer worth 50m and you'd probably be right. But that's not what I said so then you'd be arguing against a strawman argument you created from nothing I said.

You wouldn't argue against a strawman, would you?

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Also, with the way amortization works, which I mentioned already, even if I were to grant you that its a 50m loss for the sake of an argument, it's not an instant 50m loss that has all been realized yet.

So its not a 50m loss YET even in your world.

 

[Bjerknes]

It's not a loss to buy an asset. That's accounting 101.

When I buy a car for 10,000, I didn't "lose" 10k. I have an asset hopefully worth 10k. Sorry you're unfamiliar with it. Now you can argue that the asset is no longer worth 50m and you'd probably be right. But that's not what I said so then you'd be arguing against a strawman argument you created from nothing I said.

You wouldn't argue against a strawman, would you?

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Also, with the way amortization works, which I mentioned already, even if I were to grant you that its a 50m loss for the sake of an argument, it's not an instant 50m loss that has all been realized yet.

So its not a 50m loss YET even in your world.

Yes, you're right. But that means someone needs to buy Luiz. I don't have confidence that anyone will, especially for the silly price we paid, including transferring two assets, one of which performed well.

If it makes you feel better having another Arthur on your books, that's great.

I still consider it a loss until proven otherwise.

 

[Knowah]

Yes, you're right. But that means someone needs to buy Luiz. I don't have confidence that anyone will, especially for the silly price we paid, including transferring two assets, one of which performed well.

If it makes you feel better having another Arthur on your books, that's great.

I still consider it a loss until proven otherwise.

You're also right. The value of the asset isn't established until it's sold.

Time will tell.

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