Summer mercato thread 2022-23 season (83 Viewers)

[Rockets]

Kostic - Milik - Di Maira
Pogba - Paredes - Fagioli
Cambiaso - Bremer - Gatti - ?

We almost bought a whole line up.
Bravo: Bremer, Fagioli (if stays), Di Maria
Meh: Milik (don't rate him but hope he proves us wrong)
TBD: Cambiaso, Gatti, Pogba (depends on availability), Paredes, Kostic

Too many if, but overall I feel optimistic.

 

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[Xperd]

Look at how inconsistent the top teams in the league are.

Even though we are weak at fullback, we have a pretty good team now. Winning the league should be a concrete objective this season.

 

[il brutto]

Nope, the other guy, can't remember the name (Obiang?) was usually the more laying back and yes, they switched position sometimes to make it more unpredictable and to let Loca receive it deeper etc. But no, that does not make him the regista. That's missing the essence of the role of being the one channel everything goes through, being the dictating and organising player all game.

There are ever only a few true regista and he'll never be one of them. Just like Marchisio in the day, he can do a job there sometimes because he's comfortable on the ball but that's it. Just look at a kid like Rovella play and you see the difference.

That's not correct. Sassuolo played with a double pivot and Locatelli was often a bit deeper than his midfield partner. Magnanelli is the exception to this rule but he rarely played together with Loca during Loca's last year at Sassuolo.

Here are a couple of games where Obiang and Loca started together for example and their average positions in ball possession during the 1st halfs.

Spoiler

 

[Brny44]

Fuck Milcuck, but Wiener scored a hattrick against some 4th division team - The Castel Di Sangro of Germany. RB Leipzig had 41 shots in that game.

The whole serie a is 4th division league, soo scoring aginst a 17th german team is like scoaring against a 17th serie A team. The diference is that he would score goals against smaller teams and thats what we are lacking on. Lets see when milik score against salernitana.

 

[Robee]

That's not correct. Sassuolo played with a double pivot and Locatelli often was a bit deeper than his midfield partner. Magnanelli is the exception to this rule but he rarely played together with Loca during Loca's last year at Sassuolo.

He are are a couple of games where Obiang and Loca started together for example and their average positions in ball possession during the 1st halfs.

Spoiler

Again; regista is not a position, it's a role and in possession Obiang was the guy in front of the defence with Loca the roaming one. If Loca tracks back (B-) and goes up once (B+), his position would be in the middle, yet his role would be box-to-box. Therefor the mean position is an awful stat for this (if not in general) and also not what I meant. Maybe the mean position in possession or touches on ball would be a little better already.

 

[Amer]

Kostic - Milik - Di Maira
Pogba - Paredes - Fagioli
Cambiaso - Bremer - Gatti - ?

We almost bought a whole line up.
Bravo: Bremer, Fagioli (if stays), Di Maria
Meh: Milik (don't rate him but hope he proves us wrong)
TBD: Cambiaso, Gatti, Pogba (depends on availability), Paredes, Kostic

Too many if, but overall I feel optimistic.

Damn, didn't realize we brought like 10 players.

Next summer it will be even more difficult to get rid of deadwood, lul.

 

[il brutto]

For the umpteenth time; regista is not a position, it's a role and in possession Obiang was the guy in front of the defence with Loca the roaming one. If Loca tracks back and goes up once, his position would be in the middle, yet his role would be box-to-box. Therefor the mean position is an awful stat for this (and also in general). Maybe the mean position in possession or touches on ball would be a little better already.

Again, that's not correct.

Maybe the mean position in possession or touches on ball would be a little better already

And that is exactly what I showed you.

 

[Akshen]

dont think it really matters how he played for Sasssoulo. He was tried at regista at Juve and didnt really set the world apart, looks much better as mezzala. We look much more creative when he is playing there too.

 

[Brny44]

Damn, didn't realize we brought like 10 players.

Next summer it will be even more difficult to get rid of deadwood, lul.

The hardest will be firing allegri

 

[GrandeGigi]

The hardest will be firing allegri

Things are normally easier the second time around.

 

[juve123]

Paredes will earn €7.5m net salary per year plus bonuses at Juventus. (GdS)

 

[Clamarc]

Paredes will earn €7.5m net salary per year plus bonuses at Juventus. (GdS)

wtf

 

[IlCapitano]

Again, that's not correct.



And that is exactly what I showed you.

It was enough to watch games he played against us to see Loca was their deep playmaker. It was enough to watch all of last season and see he was doing very very well in that deep role for the most part. I don't get this need to diminish and say he cannot do this or that.

You prefer him higher, you think he's better there? Fine.

But please stop saying he can't play there, he's awful, he's wasted etc. He may be statistically wasted only (although he was at his normal numbers last season), but his impact is always good when he plays deep. It is an extremely important, responsible and almost prideful position for Italians. If Pirlo played higher up he would have had even better stats, but he made his mark playing deep also. Not every play has to have phenomenal individual stats.

 

[JCK]

Don't worry bros, next year we'll really fix the midfield

When do we expect to fix the wingbacks as earliest?

 

[Robee]

Again, that's not correct.



And that is exactly what I showed you.

But it's not what is needed as I already explained. A mean position does not show what actually happens.

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It was enough to watch games he played against us to see Loca was their deep playmaker. It was enough to watch all of last season and see he was doing very very well in that deep role for the most part. I don't get this need to diminish and say he cannot do this or that.

You prefer him higher, you think he's better there? Fine.

But please stop saying he can't play there, he's awful, he's wasted etc. He may be statistically wasted only (although he was at his normal numbers last season), but his impact is always good when he plays deep. It is an extremely important, responsible and almost prideful position for Italians. If Pirlo played higher up he would have had even better stats, but he made his mark playing deep also. Not every play has to have phenomenal individual stats.

But he is def wasted there. I love that he's somewhat eclectic but for the love of God use him in his best position. He influences games higher up and from deep he's just 1/11.

 

[Prototype]

Paredes will earn €7.5m net salary per year plus bonuses at Juventus. (GdS)

Around 11M in the books.

 

[il brutto]

But it's not what is needed as I already explained. A mean position does not show what actually happens.

I watched plenty of him at Sassuolo. I'm simply trying to show you how they actually played but if you want to keep burying your head in the sand you're of course free to do so.

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

Things are normally easier the second time around.

somehow he got a huge pay rise and 4 years of contract for second time though. i still wonder which scum is responsible for this.

 

[Akshen]

Around 11M in the books.

with growth decree - meaning if he stays for at least 2 years, meaning we would have to activate clause and sign 4 years contract with him.

 

[Bianconero81]

7.5 million. Benvenuto Il Nuovo Fagiot/Arturd.

Forza Big Nips Papi and Chimichanga - excellent business.