Summer mercato thread 2022-23 season (81 Viewers)

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juve123

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Aug 10, 2017
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Mandragora and Demiral will get us some money.

Udogie, SMS and a CB (Badiashile or Milenkovic - I think Bremer is going to Inter). Sure, that will necessitate that we spend circa 100 million, but we have assets that we can use, and we're losing Dybala's and Turdeski's wages, not to mention that Ronaldo is already off the wage bill, and the amateur golfer and the malignant french malaise will be gone by the summer of 2023 at the latest.
We already have activated chiesa obligation clause ie 40 million euros even if we sign morata 15-20 million euros we already have spent close to 60 million euros. So SMS is impossible unless we sell de ligt.
 

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Robee

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Jun 21, 2011
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Juve have expressed their interest in Pogba and have asked to be informed of any offers from other teams. Juve are planning to make contact with the entourage to delve into the overall costs.
[@romeoagresti]
Romeo being cautious as always. He basically only reports anything useful when it's done lately :D
 

juve123

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Paul Pogba’s agent will be in Turin on Monday to meet with Juventus, per @DiMarzio
. Salary still the main issue for potential comeback, while Pogba is exploring options. Juventus Paris Saint-Germain are also in talks with Pogba agents - while Paul is NOT tempted by Man City.(Romano)

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Romeo being cautious as always. He basically only reports anything useful when it's done lately :D
Completely clueless on Vlahovic.
 
Jun 16, 2020
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Perisic is not the most talented, but he's one of the most versatile forwards and two footed, and is great off the ball. His WC in 2018 was a thing of beauty, he Mandzukic and Rebic together was a joy to watch. For 2 years and not too much money, I'd take him. If that means we can fix the defense and midfield, him, Di Maria and Chiesa when he's back can carry the next season out. Then we look for a young guy like Antony is this season. @BayernFan still misses Perisic I'm sure
Yeah, small reminder: WC was 4 years ago and they had a Golden Ball winning Modric. 6m net is ~11m gross, overall a 22m investment for 2 years, potentially 33m for a player who's 34 by february next season.

Im not against signing experienced players, but it should be (former-)worldclass players like Di Maria or Modric if we get them at that age.

From puntare sui giovani to Di Maria and Perisic after releasing Mandzukic, Matuidi, Higuain etc in two years is insane
 
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Fuck Pogba. We should go for SMS.
Unrelated. One costs us a lot in salary, while the other will cost us a shitton in transfer fee. I don't think they are mutually exclusive.

Having said that, it's hard to imagine us getting both and if Pogba would be our only acquisition in midfield I would be very disappointed (because I am very concerned about his injury record). If it's 1 or the other I would obviously pick SMS too.
 

Robee

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Yeah, small reminder: WC was 4 years ago and they had a Golden Ball winning Modric. 6m net is ~11m gross, overall a 22m investment for 2 years, potentially 33m for a player who's 34 by february next season.

Im not against signing experienced players, but it should be (former-)worldclass players like Di Maria or Modric if we get them at that age.
Age is just a number. Both players have no real injury history. Peri is a reliable player.

But I'm interested; what wingers do you want us to target? Let's not forget that getting a young, classy winger basically turns Soulé into plusvalenza too.
 

Mike-e-y

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Perisic & ADM on a free would be a huge improvement because we can focus on the areas that are essential.

Wide players are an absolute luxury and will be null and void though without a functioning central area. If we get them we need to go big on SMS, pay Nazio 70m over 4 years and with Rovella and Fagioli back we have good depth in the centre of the park.

Add Molina, udogie, Badiashile and Romagnoli on a free and we’re a completely different proposition
 

zizinho

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Yeah, small reminder: WC was 4 years ago and they had a Golden Ball winning Modric. 6m net is ~11m gross, overall a 22m investment for 2 years, potentially 33m for a player who's 34 by february next season.

Im not against signing experienced players, but it should be (former-)worldclass players like Di Maria or Modric if we get them at that age.

From puntare sui giovani to Di Maria and Perisic after releasing Mandzukic, Matuidi, Higuain etc in two years is insane
Modric wasn't even the best performer on that team, he got balon dor based on Madrid bias (should have been Ronaldo, clear as day). But I don't think he lost a step since, this might even be one of his best seasons so far.

Mandzukic still had some left in the tank (not much), Higuain was a finished round all at 31, Matuidi could have played further too but I prefer if he was sold a year prior. Not all oldies are the same, some players last until 40, some are finished at 31. And not all situations are equal. You now have to make huge investment into midfield and defense, so a few short term players will help for sure
 

Snobist

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Id rather get Berardi on lower wages than Di Maria. Berardi wont cost a lot, he knows how to score, he can score a freekick, knows the league. And we can always sell him if we get a better winger. Di Maria is too old and fragile an injury and we are doomed. All our hopes will be on Cuads sending crosses to Vlahovic. In July my cable tv expires, im seriously thinking not to renew especially after they decided not to show EPL any more.
 

DanielSz

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Id rather get Berardi on lower wages than Di Maria. Berardi wont cost a lot, he knows how to score, he can score a freekick, knows the league. And we can always sell him if we get a better winger. Di Maria is too old and fragile an injury and we are doomed. All our hopes will be on Cuads sending crosses to Vlahovic. In July my cable tv expires, im seriously thinking not to renew especially after they decided not to show EPL any more.
pretty sure Soule will be with the first team next year, just so he can gain homegrown status. So di Maria would be a great mentor for him, and should Di Maria go down, he could get a look. Berardi would be a multi year commitment.
 

Espectro

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Modric wasn't even the best performer on that team, he got balon dor based on Madrid bias (should have been Ronaldo, clear as day). But I don't think he lost a step since, this might even be one of his best seasons so far.

Mandzukic still had some left in the tank (not much), Higuain was a finished round all at 31, Matuidi could have played further too but I prefer if he was sold a year prior. Not all oldies are the same, some players last until 40, some are finished at 31. And not all situations are equal. You now have to make huge investment into midfield and defense, so a few short term players will help for sure
So... we are getting Perisic at 6 M salary to make "a huge investment into miedfield" call Pogba?
 
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Age is just a number. Both players have no real injury history. Peri is a reliable player.

But I'm interested; what wingers do you want us to target? Let's not forget that getting a young, classy winger basically turns Soulé into plusvalenza too.
It wouldn’t. You’d have Chiesa, Di Maria, Soule and a 4th winger. Four players for rotation is basically perfect.

I don’t know. I like Zaniolo, and choosing between Berardi or Perisic is a easy one for me. Leao is insane but probably impossible. All costly options obviously but fixing your wings for €0 is the same approach we had for our midfield. That why id like us to sign Di Maria and Pogba: it will save us money and opens up some space for more additions to our wingers and midfield.
 

Fellas

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Jun 13, 2005
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pretty sure Soule will be with the first team next year, just so he can gain homegrown status. So di Maria would be a great mentor for him, and should Di Maria go down, he could get a look. Berardi would be a multi year commitment.
I really hope Soule is with the first team. The reality is Allegri prefered Ake many times, that makes me unsure if Soule will be part of the first team next season.
 

BayernFan

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Feb 17, 2016
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Perisic is not the most talented, but he's one of the most versatile forwards and two footed, and is great off the ball. His WC in 2018 was a thing of beauty, he Mandzukic and Rebic together was a joy to watch. For 2 years and not too much money, I'd take him. If that means we can fix the defense and midfield, him, Di Maria and Chiesa when he's back can carry the next season out. Then we look for a young guy like Antony is this season. @BayernFan still misses Perisic I'm sure
Yes, Perisic was great for us.

Not a world beater by any means, but he was very solid and reliable. And we need a Croatian to win the CL - 2013 Mandzukic, 2020 Perisic.
 
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Modric wasn't even the best performer on that team, he got balon dor based on Madrid bias (should have been Ronaldo, clear as day). But I don't think he lost a step since, this might even be one of his best seasons so far.

Mandzukic still had some left in the tank (not much), Higuain was a finished round all at 31, Matuidi could have played further too but I prefer if he was sold a year prior. Not all oldies are the same, some players last until 40, some are finished at 31. And not all situations are equal. You now have to make huge investment into midfield and defense, so a few short term players will help for sure
Mate, freebies got us in problems at the midfield and the same could happen in our attack too if we overdo it. Di Maria is enough for there as free signing. Dont we learn..

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Is Soule ready for the first team? Doesn't seem to be consistent enough for the U23
I’m very much for giving him a chance, but he’s more a gamble than Miretti or Fagioli.
 
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Robee

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Jun 21, 2011
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It wouldn’t. You’d have Chiesa, Di Maria, Soule and a 4th winger. Four players for rotation is basically perfect.

I don’t know. I like Zaniolo, and choosing between Berardi or Perisic is a easy one for me. Leao is insane but probably impossible. All costly options obviously but fixing your wings for €0 is the same approach we had for our midfield. That why id like us to sign Di Maria and Pogba: it will save us money and opens up some space for more additions to our wingers and midfield.
The biggest problem wasn't buying ageing midfielders. It was buying the wrong ones, all the same type of players with no one there to score nor anyone to dictate play. That and handing out insane wages and extensions.

I'd prefer Berardi and Zaniolo over Perisic, easily if it weren't for the fact both of them are purely right sided; same as Di Maria and Soulé. And that makes such a heavy investment hard to defend. I'd try Zaniolo next season (when he has 1y left on his contract) to take over from Di Maria.
 
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