Summer mercato thread 2022-23 season (42 Viewers)

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Orgut

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Dec 31, 2002
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Allegri is truly a shitty coach, its disgusting tbh.
I dont think so
We played a midfieldless game.
We had some good games but results didnt come with the performance.

We have chance creating problems as well as midfield control.
We can fix it if we go smart instead of going for some Raspadoris...
SMS/Pogba along with a winger/forward and of course a LB that can defend and attack.
It needs some investments but its possible.

Pogba Jorginho and a free transfer/ 1 year left contract kind of players might be doable.
Nkunku is a dream but thats probably what it is and nothing more.
LB Udogie should be monitored - I wonder how much they want.
Rudiger would be good but who knows what his demands really are.

Allegri is a defensive coach? I dont think our 2017 team was that defending even if we defend well.
Cagliari was also not that defensive.
I think its more about what he thinks the players are more suited for.
 

Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
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I dont think so
We played a midfieldless game.
We had some good games but results didnt come with the performance.

We have chance creating problems as well as midfield control.
We can fix it if we go smart instead of going for some Raspadoris...
SMS/Pogba along with a winger/forward and of course a LB that can defend and attack.
It needs some investments but its possible.

Pogba Jorginho and a free transfer/ 1 year left contract kind of players might be doable.
Nkunku is a dream but thats probably what it is and nothing more.
LB Udogie should be monitored - I wonder how much they want.
Rudiger would be good but who knows what his demands really are.

Allegri is a defensive coach? I dont think our 2017 team was that defending even if we defend well.
Cagliari was also not that defensive.
I think its more about what he thinks the players are more suited for.
With all due respect, those are all alibis. He is a coach that needs a midfield to carry him and his defensive tactics. Thats all heres to it. He doesnt know how to set attack patterns or anything similar. Way too old school italian. Im convinced we will go nowhere unless the team plays on its own and alleghri is just there to set up his gazzilion different useles formations and subs.
 

Orgut

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Dec 31, 2002
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With all due respect, those are all alibis. He is a coach that needs a midfield to carry him and his defensive tactics. Thats all heres to it. He doesnt know how to set attack patterns or anything similar. Way too old school italian. Im convinced we will go nowhere unless the team plays on its own and alleghri is just there to set up his gazzilion different useles formations and subs.
I think we have the most quality in Serie A but we are way too unbalanced.
Our forward line consist of Vlahovic Dybala Cuadrado Morata and Chiesa who many forgot but he is actually our best player and he was taken out for the rest of the season.
Our defense consist of two very good CBs but our RB and LB are a big question mark. It balances out when we play Cuadrado who isnt a real RB but LB remain problematic whoever we use.
Our midfield has Locatelli to play on his own (unless you include Zakaria who might be a helping hand but he needs someone to be the main man)

I expect us to either spend big or give chances to players like Fagioli and Rovella. If we fail to do either (and IMO we need both) we will have the same kind of season next year (unless we change to Conte who has magical powers to motivate the unmotivated)
 

juve123

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Aug 10, 2017
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Very disappointed with how the season has panned out. It hasn't been good enough. Take nothing away from Bologna, Sassuolo and Empoli who have all shown that they are capable of pulling off surprise results, we should be beating them at home.

However, there are 5 factors in Allegri's defence which I'm not convinced would lead to significant improvements under a different coach. 1. We have absolutely no width other than Cuadrado, 2. We have absolutely no creativity other than Cuadrado and Dybala who is off form, 3. Injuries have hampered any opportunity to build any consistency in lineups, 4. The midfield is weak, particularly without Locatelli, 5. The options available on the bench are not capable of changing games.

I still expect better though.
The midfield has to be the biggest point of concern we have replaced Ramsey with another injury prone midfielder Zakaria.We don't fully utilize the left area of the pitch.No wingers apart from ageing and frustrating Cuadrado.
Physical conditioning of players and mentality of our players so many problems it must fall down on one person Allegri.
 
Mar 9, 2006
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CONTRACTS ENDING 2022
Pogba, Belotti, Dembele, Rudiger, Lacazette, Romagnoli, Luiz Felipe, Denayer, Di Maria, Tolisso, Suarez, Mkhitaryan, Modric, Isco
If they wont ask for a lot of money then Romagnoli, Luiz Felipe or Denayer might work as back up central defenders. French players will ask for huge bonus and huge salary, Suarez, Modric, Di Maria, Mkhitaryan are too old for new project.
 

Valerio.

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Jul 5, 2014
5,767
CONTRACTS ENDING 2022
Pogba, Belotti, Dembele, Rudiger, Lacazette, Romagnoli, Luiz Felipe, Denayer, Di Maria, Tolisso, Suarez, Mkhitaryan, Modric, Isco
If they wont ask for a lot of money then Romagnoli, Luiz Felipe or Denayer might work as back up central defenders. French players will ask for huge bonus and huge salary, Suarez, Modric, Di Maria, Mkhitaryan are too old for new project.
Luckly Romagnoli is going to Lazio for 3m/season net
 

Amer

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Feb 13, 2005
11,367
CONTRACTS ENDING 2022
Pogba, Belotti, Dembele, Rudiger, Lacazette, Romagnoli, Luiz Felipe, Denayer, Di Maria, Tolisso, Suarez, Mkhitaryan, Modric, Isco
If they wont ask for a lot of money then Romagnoli, Luiz Felipe or Denayer might work as back up central defenders. French players will ask for huge bonus and huge salary, Suarez, Modric, Di Maria, Mkhitaryan are too old for new project.
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MrMonkey

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Jul 15, 2017
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A 10 mercato for me is SANDRO, RABIOT, ARTHUR, BERNA, all gone! AA, regardless of throwing away money, bite the bullet because these four must be discarded. Get rid of the fungus destroying the culture of Juve. KEAN, I would start him rest of year or until Max knows he's either useful/not useful for Juve going forward. Gone/stays?

MDS, unless signed to a low salary contract, let him go. Morata, if another comparable player gotten at the same salary, let him go. Warrior #3, probably time to maybe be a player/coach used in emergency situations. Plenty of players must go to show the team and newcomers you're not on holiday when playing for Juve.

Of course experienced players must be added to team but Max has to incorporate some youth who can be successful for Juve. Like I stated not a 24/7 news Juve fan in the past but reading more and more posts about Max was great as a coach when he had premium talent at his disposable. I'm still in Max's corner but for me want to see him competent enough coaching up young HUSTLING, HUNGRY talent.
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Orgut

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Dec 31, 2002
19,351
CONTRACTS ENDING 2022
Pogba, Belotti, Dembele, Rudiger, Lacazette, Romagnoli, Luiz Felipe, Denayer, Di Maria, Tolisso, Suarez, Mkhitaryan, Modric, Isco
If they wont ask for a lot of money then Romagnoli, Luiz Felipe or Denayer might work as back up central defenders. French players will ask for huge bonus and huge salary, Suarez, Modric, Di Maria, Mkhitaryan are too old for new project.
I expect us to go for Pogba but he will choose money and go elsewhere.
I expect us to go for Rudiger and might even get him
The rest - I`d be surprised if we even try to get them.
 
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