Summer Mercato Thread 2020-21 (18 Viewers)
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After reading some of the reactions to Dzeko online, I gotta think he’s one of the most underrated players of all time. No respect. He’s far from washed, and no one has any evidence to the contrary besides mentioning his age. But a guy with his profile (physically dominant, not reliant on athleticism) should age well. Just look at Ibra. Mans pushing 40 and still productive. Dzeko should remain productive for at least two more seasons. No reason to think otherwise.
You could have followed up on my posts and see right away that i said i rate Dzeko over him and the only upside to Milik would've been some resale value... what i dislike about the Dzeko idea is the lack of pace and and the fact he might just aswell turn up here just for a last fat paycheck and whether it's him, Milik or even Suarez it's just as scary of a thought thinking one of them is supposed to lead the line and start for us in 2020, just would have hoped we'd do better, ther rest i care less about, Dzeko is a strong CF that might do a decent job here no doubt but i don't see him improving us by much, i'd gladly have him as a back-up for the cheap but with the figures involved he is clearly coming in as a starter, and at this age i'm really not sure how much he can still be relied on. time will tell i guess, just again, would've preffered another way around this, but it is what it is right.
Really? Quoting last years's stats is cherry picking?
Also, the guy who you replied to said:
"Resale value means nothing if your striker is going to provide you with some shitty numbers. We need instant quality, which Dzeko provides surely, and not profit from the sale which is something that clubs like Roma chase.
There's simply no way Milik (and not many better options out there apparently) would provide more quality than Dzeko. Imo not even half of it."
To which you replied:
'disagree.
Milik, other than his reccuring injuries, is quite a decent player imo.
And stop referring to Dzeko as if he is still in his prime, because he is not anymore, overall i'd obviously rate Dzeko as the better between the two based on their careers and output but not right now, and even resale value aside, he is simply long past his best years. This days he is a Llorente with a stronger shot and better ball control.'
So don't tell me you don't care about Milik.
Also, the guy who you replied to said:
"Resale value means nothing if your striker is going to provide you with some shitty numbers. We need instant quality, which Dzeko provides surely, and not profit from the sale which is something that clubs like Roma chase.
There's simply no way Milik (and not many better options out there apparently) would provide more quality than Dzeko. Imo not even half of it."
To which you replied:
'disagree.
Milik, other than his reccuring injuries, is quite a decent player imo.
And stop referring to Dzeko as if he is still in his prime, because he is not anymore, overall i'd obviously rate Dzeko as the better between the two based on their careers and output but not right now, and even resale value aside, he is simply long past his best years. This days he is a Llorente with a stronger shot and better ball control.'
So don't tell me you don't care about Milik.
lol , yes i don't care about Milik at all(probably i should let you know that the only reason i probably even came up with that example there was because of reading the figures involved and thinking the book value in the end wouldn't have been that far apart but at least one of them would have had some decent resale value), think you can even check further back on my posts when he first started to get linked with us and you would notice how little of a shit i give of him, i was just pointing out that i'd have seen him as a better alternative from certain primarily financial perspectives, not debating at all which is the better player here, and yes, if you follow up from there you could see me explaining a bit about those Dzeko numbers, not to downrate him, but rather to point out they will be far more different once he arrives here. here's some of my follow-up to that:
So yeah, i'd say that nice cherry picking again but maybe you got lost among the pages there, anyway one way or the other you can keep your idea about me somehow favoring or rating Milik for as long as you like for all i care, but frankly you are letting that idea getting in the way of seeing the fact i don't give a rats ass about him and that the context in there is actually me just not liking this Dzeko to Juve idea right now, i dislike it yes, but not hate it, as i said, i do rate Dzeko quite high ever since his time with Roma(wasn't a fan of his at Citty), heck i even remember sharing some of his interviews when he was praising Chiellini for being a big part of Juve's success and thinking i would've liked him here at some point, however again , i just don't rate what he could bring to the table atm, would've preffered us going for someone with better athleticism, pace and even more fight into him if possible just to put it simple, but again, seeing the current circumstance i'd say ofc that as a temporary move this isn't that bad obviously, it's a sideways move yes but a decent one nonetheless, just that you can't say seeing the figures involved that there's no risk and potential downside to all of this, just don't believe my concerns are that out of place in this case, there are positives but also just as many negatives to this deal.
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yeah, Llorente was pretty much a lolz of an example but given more in terms of the speed and athleticism he can still offer in comparison... as i've pointed out afterwards i actually think Mandzukic could maybe be more comparable in terms of the numbers they both would offer by the end of their first season, and by that i mean ofc some of Mandzu's better seasons and not just the last few washed up ones, but then again even that is not that accurate afterall... guess time will tell how this one will pan out eventually, my expectations are not nearly as high as some of you regarding all this though.
So yeah, i'd say that nice cherry picking again but maybe you got lost among the pages there, anyway one way or the other you can keep your idea about me somehow favoring or rating Milik for as long as you like for all i care, but frankly you are letting that idea getting in the way of seeing the fact i don't give a rats ass about him and that the context in there is actually me just not liking this Dzeko to Juve idea right now, i dislike it yes, but not hate it, as i said, i do rate Dzeko quite high ever since his time with Roma(wasn't a fan of his at Citty), heck i even remember sharing some of his interviews when he was praising Chiellini for being a big part of Juve's success and thinking i would've liked him here at some point, however again , i just don't rate what he could bring to the table atm, would've preffered us going for someone with better athleticism, pace and even more fight into him if possible just to put it simple, but again, seeing the current circumstance i'd say ofc that as a temporary move this isn't that bad obviously, it's a sideways move yes but a decent one nonetheless, just that you can't say seeing the figures involved that there's no risk and potential downside to all of this, just don't believe my concerns are that out of place in this case, there are positives but also just as many negatives to this deal.
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yeah, Llorente was pretty much a lolz of an example but given more in terms of the speed and athleticism he can still offer in comparison... as i've pointed out afterwards i actually think Mandzukic could maybe be more comparable in terms of the numbers they both would offer by the end of their first season, and by that i mean ofc some of Mandzu's better seasons and not just the last few washed up ones, but then again even that is not that accurate afterall... guess time will tell how this one will pan out eventually, my expectations are not nearly as high as some of you regarding all this though.
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Probably an unpopular opinion but if Costa is sold, I wouldn’t mind him as a backup. We really wouldn’t have anyone to backup the left flank in that scenario, outside of guys that are better fit on the right, and he’d be a cheap option, and has experience in serie A.
Probably an unpopular opinion but if Costa is sold, I wouldn’t mind him as a backup. We really wouldn’t have anyone to backup the left flank in that scenario, outside of guys that are better fit on the right, and he’d be a cheap option, and has experience in serie A.
Dzeko since joining Roma in 2015, 106 goals and 50 assists. Milik in his entire career 109 goals and 34 assists. If we include NTs, Dzeko since joining Roma has 123 goals and 55 assists, while Milik has 123 goals and 48 assists in his entire career for club and country
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