Summer Mercato Thread 2018 (115 Viewers)

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Xperd

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According to Sport Italia's @MCriscitiello, Juventus have chosen Alessio Tacchinardi to manage the Juventus Second team that is expected to be playing in Serie C next season.
 

Xperd

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Inter have to generate 40-50M in plusvalenza not just raising money through sales

Some big player of theirs will be sacrificed in the summer
 

LiquidPLP

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Viola is willing Chiesa to go it seems, for 70m.

We offer 50m + Mandragora + loan of Pjaca (with an option to buy and an option to buy him back for Juve).

All of this according to this guy: Bucchioni (TJ).

Yay or nay? :D

BTW. Pjaca already agreed to join Viola.
 

Akshen

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Viola is willing Chiesa to go it seems, for 70m.

We offer 50m + Mandragora + loan of Pjaca (with an option to buy and an option to buy him back for Juve).

All of this according to this guy: Bucchioni (TJ).

Yay or nay? :D

BTW. Pjaca already agreed to join Viola.
In todays market Mandragora is easily worth 20m, Pjaca probably 25-30, not a good deal in my opinion.
 

pitbull

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Why on earth would we need Chiesa? Because Cuads is downgrading to RB? We're still stacked for 433 with Dybala, Costa, Berna, new striker/Higuain, Mandžukič all warranting serious minutes. Unless Allegri wants to focus on 4231 we shouldn't look at attacking options
 

Lapa

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Viola is willing Chiesa to go it seems, for 70m.

We offer 50m + Mandragora + loan of Pjaca (with an option to buy and an option to buy him back for Juve).

All of this according to this guy: Bucchioni (TJ).

Yay or nay? :D

BTW. Pjaca already agreed to join Viola.
Way more than Berna or Dybala? I don't see that much promise in him.
 
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I think people are way too caught up in the concept of player position. We have a coach who doesn't buy into the idea of certain formation. If you buy good players I'm certain Allegri will make it work. I'm quite confident the board nor Allegri considers our midfield as problematic as the majority on here do.
 

Orgut

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Viola is willing Chiesa to go it seems, for 70m.

We offer 50m + Mandragora + loan of Pjaca (with an option to buy and an option to buy him back for Juve).

All of this according to this guy: Bucchioni (TJ).

Yay or nay? :D

BTW. Pjaca already agreed to join Viola.
Chiesa a great player and probably the best Italian winger right now BUT like I said before we dont really need wingers at the moment..
If we decide to go for him anyway a deal like that is a must accept on the Viola part..
Even if they dont rate the players that much - Pjaca is an amazing dribbler - His price could easily go to 60M if he performs well for 1 season!
Mandragora is a different story as he`ll probably never play for Juve..

On paper Fiorentina could gain (over years) 50M+20M+60M - thats 130M for Chiesa - a great deal on their part and a horrible one on our part

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Imagine Inter getting Higuain and 9golan for the rest of the money. They would be straight Scudetto conteders.
I doubt they could get Nainggolan with their debts...
Higuain might be possible if we trade him for Icardi..

Even in the event that Inter somehow succeeds in rataining Cancelo+keeping Icardi or swapping for Higuain+signing Nainggolan I still see them coming 3rd after Juve and Napoli
Juve right now is the best and with some margin but its mercato time and we need to see how it goes with our mercato and Napoli`s.. Should Napoli get Vidal and Balotelli they could have a major upgrade there and might be able to put up a real fight..
Our mercato depends on our midfield, Higuain and what we do with our defense - It all actually depends on us as if we do things to go forward I see it impossible to catch us.. Should we get a meh mercato Napoli might give us a real fight this time..

Inter are way behind and even with a major signing or even two major signigns I see them trail behind us and Napoli.
We should also take into account some factors:
Juve have a winning mentality BUT we won for 7 years straight so are we going to have the same hunger?!
Napoli are desperate for a title but do not possess our winning mentality - Ancelotti replaced Sarri so it might change their way of football (in a good way or a bad way)
Inter are the masters of choking when it comes to fight Juve - They cant beat us and when it seems they are going to do it (2-1 to Inter with Inter in 10 men) they choke and lose (3-2) - I can give more examples showing their tendency to choke such as Inter losing to Lazio 4-2 in the final day to lose the title to Juve who beat Udinese IIRC 2-0 (Ronaldo crying in the end is the cherry on the cake)

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Way more than Berna or Dybala? I don't see that much promise in him.
The truth is Dybala isnt such a great winger but more of a central forward/AMC/forward who is played in a central position but drifts wide
Bernardeschi is indeed a winger (although he can play in other positions as well) but right now Chiesa is the better player when considering the wide position
Potential wise I would put a close eye on Bernardeschi who can become special with time
 

Al Birdie

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I think people are way too caught up in the concept of player position. We have a coach who doesn't buy into the idea of certain formation. If you buy good players I'm certain Allegri will make it work. I'm quite confident the board nor Allegri considers our midfield as problematic as the majority on here do.
I don't agree with this view. Good player is useless statement in this context. Buffon is a good player, so is Wojcek and so is Perin. Do you wanna try any off them out as a defender? How much wingers you can buy before it becomes a burden? Because you can't have 8 wingers in the attack, they might be good (or even great) wingers, but it does not make them a good ST, CF or AM, CM. So either you put some of them on the bench or play them out of position. And out of position they might suck. I mean look at pogba. Change the system, and give him different tasks in pretty much the same position and he's lost. Btw wing players often is so used to playing on the side line, they feel lost in the middle of the pitch. But thats not always the case.

And another point is financial, if we are set in regard of wingers and we have a limited budget, it makes 0 sense to splash 70mil on yet another winger, who will rot on the bench. While neglecting the midfield and full backs. Or field in wingers as midfielders/ fullbacks, which is not a solution. If board thinks our midfield is not so bad, i suggest watching the tottenhem games this year. Look at a god damn de siglio vs real. It hurts to watch him play! Its for sure the problem, question is how you want to address it?
 

Hust

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Viola is willing Chiesa to go it seems, for 70m.

We offer 50m + Mandragora + loan of Pjaca (with an option to buy and an option to buy him back for Juve).

All of this according to this guy: Bucchioni (TJ).

Yay or nay? :D

BTW. Pjaca already agreed to join Viola.
Two promising prospects (well 1 sorta, the other needs PT here to prove himself) plus 50m for ONE prospect?

That's far-fetched IMO.
 

LiquidPLP

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Jun 9, 2012
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Everyone has been missing an important point: Pjaca is just a loan with option to buy. The guy needs to play, so good for us and for the player. Good for Viola as well who get Chiesa's replacement.

Impossible? I wouldn't say so, as long us our players would be willing to go there.
 
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