Summer Mercato Thread 2018 (74 Viewers)
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No, 38 million for an unproven RB at the highest level in his last year of contract is not a bargain. It's EPL idiocy. He may work out, he may not. We may need 3 FBs, can't afford to spend 38 on one that's not WC already.
And I get that everyone is sick of reclamation products like Darmian, Khedira etc., I think we're past it too, but...Darmian was excellent before he went to United in Torino. Not good or average - EXCELLENT. Considering how many players flopped under Mourinho it's not inconceivable he reaches that level again. He reminds me of younger Lichtsteiner when he's playing really well.
And I get that everyone is sick of reclamation products like Darmian, Khedira etc., I think we're past it too, but...Darmian was excellent before he went to United in Torino. Not good or average - EXCELLENT. Considering how many players flopped under Mourinho it's not inconceivable he reaches that level again. He reminds me of younger Lichtsteiner when he's playing really well.
BULLSHIT!
Alex Sandro was unproven at the highest level before we splashed 40 mill on him too but yet we can afford to piss money away on mediocre to shit players? gimme a break
don't even try and sugar coat the darmian deal, he wasn't good enough before he went to utd and he's certainly not good enough now. He was never anything like a younger Lichtsteiner
Alex Sandro was unproven at the highest level before we splashed 40 mill on him too but yet we can afford to piss money away on mediocre to shit players? gimme a break
don't even try and sugar coat the darmian deal, he wasn't good enough before he went to utd and he's certainly not good enough now. He was never anything like a younger Lichtsteiner
you've quite literally never watched ricardo pereira, especially if you think darmian is like a young lichtsteiner. Besides In what way is darmian any more proven? He's a flop and a fraud.
Seriously if we were linked with santon this summer some members here would say how he reminds them of a young cafu and how he's more proven than signing a player of superior quality for slightly more
Seriously if we were linked with santon this summer some members here would say how he reminds them of a young cafu and how he's more proven than signing a player of superior quality for slightly more
Alex Sandro had 3 seasons of CL experience and one of Copa Libertadores (where he was a starter at age 20) before he joined us at the age of 24. Pereira is 25, has one (this) season of CL experience, got raped by Mane in their 5-0 trashing to Pool. dont compare him to Alex Sandro please
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the problem with Darmian for me are his wages, the reported 4M is too much. also, do we need a RB with Cuadrado-De Sciglio, and Barzagli staying? cuz i dont want him for LB
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the problem with Darmian for me are his wages, the reported 4M is too much. also, do we need a RB with Cuadrado-De Sciglio, and Barzagli staying? cuz i dont want him for LB
I literally said a week ago Pereira would be my no.1 target for RB. That's when I thought we would get a strong RB for 15million, not for fucking 38.
I also just said I don't want Darmian to be THAT guy on the right, but I get the thinking behind it, especially if other positions get improved and Dybala, Sandro stay. If all other players play at a good level, MDS/Darmian rotation is ok.
I also just said I don't want Darmian to be THAT guy on the right, but I get the thinking behind it, especially if other positions get improved and Dybala, Sandro stay. If all other players play at a good level, MDS/Darmian rotation is ok.
You went from complaining about Darmian being our backup LB (but AS replacement at the same time, which makes no sense) in last post to complaining about signing Darmian as RB this quick? lol
We already have an attacking RB in Cuadrado. Why should sign another one esp when LB needs more attn now with AS leaving?
Your meltdowns make absolutely no sense.
And can someone decode this for me: "you've quite literally never watched ricardo pereira, especially if you think darmian is like a young lichtsteiner."
We already have an attacking RB in Cuadrado. Why should sign another one esp when LB needs more attn now with AS leaving?
Your meltdowns make absolutely no sense.
And can someone decode this for me: "you've quite literally never watched ricardo pereira, especially if you think darmian is like a young lichtsteiner."
Strong full back for 15 mill in this day and age? Yeah good luck with that
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Cuadrado is weak defensively unlike Pereira is that so hard to understand?
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Ashley young had salah in his pocket earlier this season does that make him a great full back in the same manner Pereira is poor for having one bad game and against one of the fastest player in europe? I struggle to think of many full backs who wouldn't have a difficult time against mane
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Cuadrado is weak defensively unlike Pereira is that so hard to understand?
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Ashley young had salah in his pocket earlier this season does that make him a great full back in the same manner Pereira is poor for having one bad game and against one of the fastest player in europe? I struggle to think of many full backs who wouldn't have a difficult time against mane
I hope Darmian is being signed to be a backup RB/LB player. Cuadrado should definitely be the starter at the position.
The realistic mercato I'd like - considering we will be paying 40M for Costa and given there won't be too much room for signing fees, given the dramatic wages increase that has been taking place, year after year:
GK
OUT: Buffon - (0) 4M net wages
IN: Perin (15M + Audero) 2.5M net wages
RB
OUT: Licht - (0) 2.5M w
IN: Spinazzola (0) + 1.5M w
LB
OUT: Asa - (0) 2M w
Sandro (50) 3M w
IN: Darmian (15) 4M w
Bernat (20) 4M w
CBs
OUT: Howedes (0) 3M w
IN: Caldara (0) 1.5M w
MFs
OUT: Sturaro (10) 2M w
IN: Can (0) 6M w
Forwards
OUT: Mandzukic (15) 4M w
IN: Morata (15 - loan + 40M definite purchase not accounted for) 6M w
IN: Pjaca (0) 2M w
Net expenditure of 30M on fees (considering Costa's purchase). Could be offset by selling some youngsters with buyback clause (Audero, Cerri, Mandragora). Increase of 7M net on wages.
Starting team 433: Scz; Cuadrado, Benatia, Chiellini, Bernat; Pjanic, Khedira, Matuidi; Costa, Dybala, Higuain.
Backups: Perin; DeSciglio/Spina, Barza/Rugani, Caldara, Darmian; Marchisio, Can, Betancour; Berna, Pjaca, Morata.
Spinazzola can also be a backup winger, and Bernardeschi could be tried as a backup CM.
Mainly, Can would fight Khedira for the position, and Betancour would rotate with Matuidi, so he could be developed as a ball carrier LCM a la Pogba. Hopefully both of them would finish the season as starters, providing much more technical skill to the mid.
Caldara would be the first option from the bench, starting to take the tourch from Chiellini.
Morata would be often used as a CF, fitting well with Dybala because they would take turns as inside left forward / CF, moving Costa to the right side when he plays. He would also put Higuain's position in jeopardize, leading Juve to cash on him at the 2019 offseason (last time to do so) and solidifying Morata as a WC CF.
Caldara, Can, Betancour and Morata would end the season as upcoming starters of WC level
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The realistic mercato I'd like - considering we will be paying 40M for Costa and given there won't be too much room for signing fees, given the dramatic wages increase that has been taking place, year after year:
GK
OUT: Buffon - (0) 4M net wages
IN: Perin (15M + Audero) 2.5M net wages
RB
OUT: Licht - (0) 2.5M w
IN: Spinazzola (0) + 1.5M w
LB
OUT: Asa - (0) 2M w
Sandro (50) 3M w
IN: Darmian (15) 4M w
Bernat (20) 4M w
CBs
OUT: Howedes (0) 3M w
IN: Caldara (0) 1.5M w
MFs
OUT: Sturaro (10) 2M w
IN: Can (0) 6M w
Forwards
OUT: Mandzukic (15) 4M w
IN: Morata (15 - loan + 40M definite purchase not accounted for) 6M w
IN: Pjaca (0) 2M w
Net expenditure of 30M on fees (considering Costa's purchase). Could be offset by selling some youngsters with buyback clause (Audero, Cerri, Mandragora). Increase of 7M net on wages.
Starting team 433: Scz; Cuadrado, Benatia, Chiellini, Bernat; Pjanic, Khedira, Matuidi; Costa, Dybala, Higuain.
Backups: Perin; DeSciglio/Spina, Barza/Rugani, Caldara, Darmian; Marchisio, Can, Betancour; Berna, Pjaca, Morata.
Spinazzola can also be a backup winger, and Bernardeschi could be tried as a backup CM.
Mainly, Can would fight Khedira for the position, and Betancour would rotate with Matuidi, so he could be developed as a ball carrier LCM a la Pogba. Hopefully both of them would finish the season as starters, providing much more technical skill to the mid.
Caldara would be the first option from the bench, starting to take the tourch from Chiellini.
Morata would be often used as a CF, fitting well with Dybala because they would take turns as inside left forward / CF, moving Costa to the right side when he plays. He would also put Higuain's position in jeopardize, leading Juve to cash on him at the 2019 offseason (last time to do so) and solidifying Morata as a WC CF.
Caldara, Can, Betancour and Morata would end the season as upcoming starters of WC level
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Well that's the whole point of his job though, he has to find a way to address the issues that he's faced with, otherwise why is he being paid? 
If he and Paratici try and fail and sign a reasonable substitute, that's fine and understandable.
Can and Bonaventura isn't reasonable.
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So you want to spend 40m on a RB. How much on a LB and backup FB(s)?
What about other positions?
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