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SrdanPopovic

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That's the million dollar question,simple math shows maybe we can afford to spend 150-200 million on transfers,the other think is are we willing to do that....Also there is new sponsorship deal which will change the name of our home to Allianz Stadium,new logo,increased image...if we could splash on Higgy 90mil and Beppster said it would happen even if we didn't sold Pogba that means we have money...Sanchez or MBappe would cost us more or less same amount of money,for the first one transfer fee would be less but his wages are crazy,for second one higher transfer fee but considerably lower wages,one way or another we reached the point where it is really hard to improve current level,and even if now and then opportunities arises every time that will cost a lot of money,cause now to improve this level we need world class only,either potential world class or actual world class,and that is gonna be expensive
 

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That's the million dollar question,simple math shows maybe we can afford to spend 150-200 million on transfers,the other think is are we willing to do that....Also there is new sponsorship deal which will change the name of our home to Allianz Stadium,new logo,increased image...if we could splash on Higgy 90mil and Beppster said it would happen even if we didn't sold Pogba that means we have money...Sanchez or MBappe would cost us more or less same amount of money,for the first one transfer fee would be less but his wages are crazy,for second one higher transfer fee but considerably lower wages,one way or another we reached the point where it is really hard to improve current level,and even if now and then opportunities arises every time that will cost a lot of money,cause now to improve this level we need world class only,either potential world class or actual world class,and that is gonna be expensive
As much as I dont like see us pay more than 100M for a player (for the reason I stated in previous posts) If we do so for Mbappe it will be worth it (I dont support such moves as I think its disgusting thing where medicines research and stuff like that which are bigger than football could use such figures)
Mbappe is extremely young+ Amazing talent and already bangs goals for fun + He will be very marketable so I guess whoever signs him will see their costs covered with the years (If he continue to develop even if not reaching Henry`s level)
 

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I see no reason for us to buy Szczesny nor I see a reason for Szczesny to join us.

He'll join some club that will offer him minutes. Looks like nothing but a brainless rumor that pops up every day from the media that's bored at work and reads a lot of English sport papers.
 

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I see no reason for us to buy Szczesny nor I see a reason for Szczesny to join us.

He'll join some club that will offer him minutes. Looks like nothing but a brainless rumor that pops up every day from the media that's bored at work and reads a lot of English sport papers.
winning trophies? not that i want him either
 

zizinho

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You can hardly see that a young player joins a club to warm their bench.

I doubt it matters winning anything if you spend 0 minutes on the pitch tbh.

Plenty would join a club that offers them a sure starting spot (but still is a big-ish name).
I imagine he would play ~10 games in Serie A along with the Coppa games, if he came here, and being on twice the wages Neto is on. Add a possible injury for Buffon and the fact we are (one of the) favorites in every competition, and improved wages to his current ones, and you can see why he would consider our offer atleast. Neto for example had 14 games this season and that with us securing the Scudetto only with 2 games to go.

Having said that, hes more likely to stay or join Napoli, but id rather rely on him as 2nd goalie than Neto if there is a chance to get him
 

Hydde

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Schick :tuttosport::tuttosport::tuttosport::tuttosport:

We started with the right foot, and this is only the beggining.

At CF we are covered. lets be honest, Higuain will start all games the coming season too, but now we have a tall technical mofo like Shick to play instead of him when the burger needs his deserved rest. And in a rare case that Schick is not available, we can use Kean?. But maybe he will be loaned.

Now lets go all in for Bernardechi, another technical guy who can play not one or 2 but THREE positions of our current formation, and will most likely bench cuadrado forever, of that im sure. heck, even Schichk will bench cuadrado as a RW if he wanted to, dat left foot man, man....
If we recover Pjaca...we dont even need to bring another attacking player into the team and can focus maybe into a big buy whenever we need?.

Imagine we fucking buy VERRATI as our galactico signing this summer?.

Schick, Bernardeschi, Verrati, Dsiglio, Conti and our usual markee freebie and i could fap into eternity.
 

SrdanPopovic

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I imagine he would play ~10 games in Serie A along with the Coppa games, if he came here, and being on twice the wages Neto is on. Add a possible injury for Buffon and the fact we are (one of the) favorites in every competition, and improved wages to his current ones, and you can see why he would consider our offer atleast. Neto for example had 14 games this season and that with us securing the Scudetto only with 2 games to go.

Having said that, hes more likely to stay or join Napoli, but id rather rely on him as 2nd goalie than Neto if there is a chance to get him
Think he is not Worth it his wake demands :/
 

SrdanPopovic

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Schick :tuttosport::tuttosport::tuttosport::tuttosport:

We started with the right foot, and this is only the beggining.

At CF we are covered. lets be honest, Higuain will start all games the coming season too, but now we have a tall technical mofo like Shick to play instead of him when the burger needs his deserved rest. And in a rare case that Schick is not available, we can use Kean?. But maybe he will be loaned.

Now lets go all in for Bernardechi, another technical guy who can play not one or 2 but THREE positions of our current formation, and will most likely bench cuadrado forever, of that im sure. heck, even Schichk will bench cuadrado as a RW if he wanted to, dat left foot man, man....
If we recover Pjaca...we dont even need to bring another attacking player into the team and can focus maybe into a big buy whenever we need?.

Imagine we $#@!ing buy VERRATI as our galactico signing this summer?.

Schick, Bernardeschi, Verrati, Dsiglio, Conti and our usual markee freebie and i could fap into eternity.
Schickbrahimović :)
 

zizinho

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Think he is not Worth it his wake demands :/
I dont really care tbh, Neto whos on 2M will leave, one of Licht/Asa (or both) who are on 2-3M too, as well as Lemina (2M iirc). Our rumored signings dont look to be high earners either (Schick, Berna, De Sciglio, and a CM) so we can afford it
 

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I imagine he would play ~10 games in Serie A along with the Coppa games, if he came here, and being on twice the wages Neto is on. Add a possible injury for Buffon and the fact we are (one of the) favorites in every competition, and improved wages to his current ones, and you can see why he would consider our offer atleast. Neto for example had 14 games this season and that with us securing the Scudetto only with 2 games to go.

Having said that, hes more likely to stay or join Napoli, but id rather rely on him as 2nd goalie than Neto if there is a chance to get him
He would play 10 games in Serie A only if Gigi gets injured, which would literally be his only hope here. Neto had 1200 minutes in all competitions, which in majority includes only Coppa matches, and it's quite horrible. I also don't see a reason to spend so much on his wages considering the minutes played. Sure, we need a quality back up GK but we can always find some oldie who won't mind sitting on the bench. I don't see a 27yo GK accepting such role unless he's already being benched somewhere. I also think he'd rather stay or join some club like Napoli, or even Inter/Milan at this point. I expect us to do some Abbiati-like deal which will be great for us.
 

zizinho

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He would play 10 games in Serie A only if Gigi gets injured, which would literally be his only hope here. Neto had 1200 minutes in all competitions, which in majority includes only Coppa matches, and it's quite horrible. I also don't see a reason to spend so much on his wages considering the minutes played. Sure, we need a quality back up GK but we can always find some oldie who won't mind sitting on the bench. I don't see a 27yo GK accepting such role unless he's already being benched somewhere. I also think he'd rather stay or join some club like Napoli, or even Inter/Milan at this point. I expect us to do some Abbiati-like deal which will be great for us.
Neto played 8 in Serie A only this season, and we secured the Scudetto pretty late compared to our usual standard. A better keeper than Neto would obviously play more, and would play all or most the games once the Scudetto is in the bag + that one or 2 games at the end of the group stage if we quality early + all Coppa games. He can get 15 games easily even without an injury to Gigi, maybe even more depending on circumstances. The question is like for every player of his quality level, would he rather play limited minutes for a top4 Club in Europe or would he rather play constantly for a tier 2 club like Roma, Napoli, Dortmund, Tottenham etc. Neto chose the 1st, lets see what Szczesny does
 

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Neto played 8 in Serie A only this season, and we secured the Scudetto pretty late compared to our usual standard. A better keeper than Neto would obviously play more, and would play all or most the games once the Scudetto is in the bag + that one or 2 games at the end of the group stage if we quality early + all Coppa games. He can get 15 games easily even without an injury to Gigi, maybe even more depending on circumstances. The question is like for every player of his quality level, would he rather play limited minutes for a top4 Club in Europe or would he rather play constantly for a tier 2 club like Roma, Napoli, Dortmund, Tottenham etc. Neto chose the 1st, lets see what Szczesny does
“When Neto chose to come to Turin and join Juve he was given a clearly-defined path of growth. If that’s really what they’re thinking then we’ll find a solution.

“Neto already asked this summer to go out [on loan] and play but the club asked him to stay on as the vice-Buffon.


That doesn't sound like a happy agent IMO. Also, Neto is leaving. So I can't really say you're right when you say he falls into first category. I'd say he falls into second and him leaving proves that. He obviously wants more minutes so he could play for his NT. That would go for every other young GK. He was aware of it and that's why he asked to be loaned out. And that's why he'll leave this summer.

We always had an older GK sitting around and that's simply the way to go. Best for both sides.
 

Hydde

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Why are we worried about keepers?. We all know buffon will play 90% of the games.

Let neto go and stay with Audero or sumthing. Who cares. Whoever comes in will never play.

After next season, yes, go all in for a top man when gigi retires. But if Gigi keeps his level...we better find another old dude like storari, or simpy let audero warm the bench.

With Gigi between our goals, no one will get considerable playtime. If he is a keeper on his prime, its better for him to not come to juve.
 

SrdanPopovic

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Why are we worried about keepers?. We all know buffon will play 90% of the games.

Let neto go and stay with Audero or sumthing. Who cares. Whoever comes in will never play.

After next season, yes, go all in for a top man when gigi retires. But if Gigi keeps his level...we better find another old dude like storari, or simpy let audero warm the bench.

With Gigi between our goals, no one will get considerable playtime. If he is a keeper on his prime, its better for him to not come to juve.
Sczeszni is not much better that Neto,high wage,no sense for a 2nd keeper,either we bring like young keeper or old keeper,dream of Donarumma playing one year together with Gigi
 

zizinho

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“When Neto chose to come to Turin and join Juve he was given a clearly-defined path of growth. If that’s really what they’re thinking then we’ll find a solution.

“Neto already asked this summer to go out [on loan] and play but the club asked him to stay on as the vice-Buffon.


That doesn't sound like a happy agent IMO. Also, Neto is leaving. So I can't really say you're right when you say he falls into first category. I'd say he falls into second and him leaving proves that. He obviously wants more minutes so he could play for his NT. That would go for every other young GK. He was aware of it and that's why he asked to be loaned out. And that's why he'll leave this summer.

We always had an older GK sitting around and that's simply the way to go. Best for both sides.
His agent is BSting, it was clear even before he came that Buffon will be playing until 2018 (atleast), so he knew before hand what situation he is coming to, as well as any other keeper that is joining us while Gigi is here. He was OK with his role when he arrived, won some trophies, played some games for a top side, now with a WC in sight and with no clear standout GKs for Brazils no.1, he would rather play more and be on the WC squad, so he wants to go. Szczesny will have the same reasoning most likely, but lets see 1st
 
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