Summer Mercato season 2024-25 (120 Viewers)

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rainhard

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May 5, 2004
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The pic show we are -100M are misleading.

Look at @Akshen post here. I think we add around 76 - 79M more per year with new signings. Let's wait for saved number with sales.

https://juventuz.com/threads/cristiano-giuntoli.45142/page-122#post-6812215
Basically we paid 200m in 5 years so around 40m per year, we wont see a big Mercato for years to come, we probably do 1 out 1 in Mercato to upgrade some department

The other thing for the whole overhaul this season, probably to an anticipated transfer embargo that will come after we fail miserably in FFP

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Akshen

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Aug 27, 2010
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Basically we paid 200m in 5 years so around 40m per year, we wont see a big Mercato for years to come, we probably do 1 out 1 in Mercato to upgrade some department

The other thing for the whole overhaul this season, probably to an anticipated transfer embargo that will come after we fail miserably in FFP

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it could be even worse, looks at this, after we made settlement with UEFA:

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DanielSz

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Sep 6, 2014
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I know the deadline is in a few days but the Chiesa deal happened very quickly. And it looks like Juve got a decent figure all things considered. Most importantly, got him off the books.
 

Xperd

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Jun 1, 2012
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it could be even worse, looks at this, after we made settlement with UEFA:

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It makes sense that we are trying to mend our relationship with UEFA after dropping out of ESL and accepting a ban from European competitions for plusvalenzagate.

With the recent developments, we are probably looking at a 1 year transfer ban. There's no way we can reduce our aggregate losses to €60M.
 

rainhard

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May 5, 2004
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It makes sense that we are trying to mend our relationship with UEFA after dropping out of ESL and accepting a ban from European competitions for plusvalenzagate.

With the recent developments, we are probably looking at a 1 year transfer ban. There's no way we can reduce our aggregate losses to €60M.
Hopefully it is just a transfer ban, the worse if we are excluded again from UCL

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Bjerknes

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Mar 16, 2004
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That's it for me, we are down around a 100 M€ and that's what matters. The 16 M€ for this year is clearly irrelevant and should not be discussed.
Exactly. And then I get yelled at for saying we'll probably need to sell someone like Yildiz to fund all of this over time.

50M and 8M wages for Luiz isn't what I call good business.
 

Catenaccio

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Jul 15, 2002
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That's it for me, we are down around a 100 M€ and that's what matters. The 16 M€ for this year is clearly irrelevant and should not be discussed.
Remember the 16m is NET. Savings are almost 30m gross per year. The 100m a spend is before we sell Chiesa and Kostic . But remember on average that net spend includes bonuses (the 58m for Koop includes 6m that only get paid under certain circumstances). In most cases the fee is amortised over 5 years…. So you are looking at an increase of 20m GROSS per year in amortisation while saving 30m gross in wages.

It’s fine economically.
 

JCK

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May 11, 2004
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Remember the 16m is NET. Savings are almost 30m gross per year. The 100m a spend is before we sell Chiesa and Kostic . But remember on average that net spend includes bonuses (the 58m for Koop includes 6m that only get paid under certain circumstances). In most cases the fee is amortised over 5 years…. So you are looking at an increase of 20m GROSS per year in amortisation while saving 30m gross in wages.

It’s fine economically.
We have a different view on expenses and income.
 

Xperd

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Jun 1, 2012
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Exactly. And then I get yelled at for saying we'll probably need to sell someone like Yildiz to fund all of this over time.

50M and 8M wages for Luiz isn't what I call good business.
So what would you guys be happy with?

You guys complain when we can't spend money

You guys complain when the club does spend money

You guys complain when the club spends money on good players and then worry about who's going to get sold next

You guys complain when some youth player does well

There's no manager in the world that can have a perfect transfer window. Expecting every transfer to be 'good business' is a utopian scenario.

This is a club that is trying to get back on track to winning ways. Several players have been signed because we have had a bunch of hot garbage for the last 3 years that have barely improved so an overhaul was necessary.

Nothing against you but this is getting a bit ridiculous tbh. I thought Allegri leaving will restore some optimism here but it just looks like a never ending cycle of finding something to nitpick and complain about.
 

Alex-444

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Sep 5, 2005
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So what would you guys be happy with?

You guys complain when we can't spend money

You guys complain when the club does spend money

You guys complain when the club spends money on good players and then worry about who's going to get sold next

You guys complain when some youth player does well

There's no manager in the world that can have a perfect transfer window. Expecting every transfer to be 'good business' is a utopian scenario.

This is a club that is trying to get back on track to winning ways. Several players have been signed because we have had a bunch of hot garbage for the last 3 years that have barely improved so an overhaul was necessary.

Nothing against you but this is getting a bit ridiculous tbh. I thought Allegri leaving will restore some optimism here but it just looks like a never ending cycle of finding something to nitpick and complain about.
Mercato 10\10
Giuntoli >>Marotta
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Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
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In 2011 we bought players for 94m euro and sold players for 20m. That's -74m euro, which is more or less similar to -100m euro nowadays, perhaps even a little more.
We sucked for a while before that summer of 2011 and we had to buy a lot of new faces. And we didn't even have CL that year.
10 years later, 10 scudetti in a row.

We are trying to do something similar.
 
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