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Siamak

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Understand Lazar Samardzić not expected to be in Udinese matchday squad as he’s set to leave the club. Atalanta are pushing and the agreement with Udinese is getting closer, same on player side for personal terms. Not agreed yet but Atalanta are advancing. Fabrizio Romano
 

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Akshen

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Understand Lazar Samardzić not expected to be in Udinese matchday squad as he’s set to leave the club. Atalanta are pushing and the agreement with Udinese is getting closer, same on player side for personal terms. Not agreed yet but Atalanta are advancing. Fabrizio Romano
Just sign him and fuck Atalanta
 

Alin

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And that's not what I'm doing. I'm adding to the sole negativity in here. That does not mean I don't see risks (which I said Kalulu was btw) but many people choose to ignore that because there's no room for any possible silver lining apparently.
I think we’ve discussed it before, i actually agree with you on many points and i’m fine with seeing fans also point out the positives not just the negatives when it comes to a player we are linked with, even more so when there’s this much negativity around, but you can’t deny that when it’s specifically about players with an concerning injury history you are always one of the firsts to play it down as not being much of a worry at all and that is odd to think otherwise because of whatever fits the narrative at that moment.

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A bit of a ‘satire’ but close to the truth type of examples:

Average tuZ fan: His multiple injuries last season are very worrying and is very possible they might reoccur this season, not sure if its a smart idea going for him.
You: There’s hardly any reason to believe they might reoccur, if anything his injury history from before this full season of injuries was fine and was always available.

Average tuZ fan: Zaniolo has 2 ACL’s and multiple other smaller injuries in between and seems to be struggling to get back to his pre ACL potential so might be better to avoid because we already have many injury prone key players….
You: His ACL’s are a thing of the past, nothing to suggest he will not get back into form or not be fully available, according to sports science yada yada expertise in recovery etc there’s every reason to trust that he is worth it and won’t struggle again with injuries, risks are same as with every other player.
 

Siamak

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The deal should be closed in the next 24/48h. #Atalanta will pay #Udinese €20M + bonus. The player's contract is being defined, which should be a 4-yr one. The interests of #Samardzic are looked after by his father Mladen with the meditation of an important Spanish agency. [Orazio Accomando]
 

juve123

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Hopefully this is the last deal with Atalanta we will ever negotiate.

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It will now be understood after signing Lazar that whether Atalanta will let Koopmeiners go or continue to build a wall to frustrate Juve.

[@DiMarzio)
 

Alin

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Jul 27, 2015
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If anything we should be looking into raising the price for Samardzic just to mess with them…

But i think it’s already very much a done deal for Koop at this stage, most they can do is delay us, just waiting on them to get his replacement without the other selling teams knowing that they now have plenty to splash before releasing him to us.
 

Robee

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I think we’ve discussed it before, i actually agree with you on many points and i’m fine with seeing fans also point out the positives not just the negatives when it comes to a player we are linked with, even more so when there’s this much negativity around, but you can’t deny that when it’s specifically about players with an concerning injury history you are always one of the firsts to play it down as not being much of a worry at all and that is odd to think otherwise because of whatever fits the narrative at that moment.

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A bit of a ‘satire’ but close to the truth type of examples:

Average tuZ fan: His multiple injuries last season are very worrying and is very possible they might reoccur this season, not sure if its a smart idea going for him.
You: There’s hardly any reason to believe they might reoccur, if anything his injury history from before this full season of injuries was fine and was always available.

Average tuZ fan: Zaniolo has 2 ACL’s and multiple other smaller injuries in between and seems to be struggling to get back to his pre ACL potential so might be better to avoid because we already have many injury prone key players….
You: His ACL’s are a thing of the past, nothing to suggest he will not get back into form or not be fully available, according to sports science yada yada expertise in recovery etc there’s every reason to trust that he is worth it and won’t struggle again with injuries, risks are same as with every other player.
I am not playing it down. I am seeing WE can not judge that from here. It's not because a player had an ACL injury, that he is bound to be more injury prone in the future. There are doctors and medical screenings for that shit and we have to trust those.

Even your summaries of what I supposedly said is basically 100% off. It isn't that hard to understand but it requires a bit of energy to read comprehensively.
 

Alin

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Jul 27, 2015
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I am not playing it down. I am seeing WE can not judge that from here. It's not because a player had an ACL injury, that he is bound to be more injury prone in the future. There are doctors and medical screenings for that shit and we have to trust those.

Even your summary of what I said is basically 100% off.
Where were those doctors and medical screenings when we signed Pogba or other similar examples? Or the scouting when we repeatedly signed a bunch of average flops on high salaries that we can barely rid ourselves off?…

That’s my point, shouldn’t just blindly assume everything is automatically going to be fine only because we are linked with them out of desperation, there’s every reason to be worried of players that are coming off long injury setbacks, we as Juve fans should probably know better than anyone by now after all this years of injury crisis and not try to paint a different reality just to be ‘optimistic’ about it all.
 

Alin

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Even your summaries of what I supposedly said is basically 100% off. It isn't that hard to understand but it requires a bit of energy to read comprehensively.
My summary is actually pretty accurate, as evidence in the post i just quoted you on where you once again try to play down the risks of purchasing injury prone players as if we haven’t been struggling with it already and that ‘medical screenings’ will surely protect us lol
 
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