Summer Mercato season 2024-25 (56 Viewers)

[Badass J Elkann]

I would say try:

but then i read this:
According to a report by L'Equipe, Coman will now earn €17 million before taxes, which means he now ranks just behind Manuel Neuer, Robert Lewandowski, Joshua Kimmich, and Leon Goretzka, who all earn between €18 million and €20 million a season.

is this true? lol

NO! This guy is like 1 more knee injury away from retiring. Fucking hard pass.

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I wonder if with Todibo failure, we would bring Danilo back to CB and search for RB instead

That's really not the answer. We need a solid CB

 

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[JuveJay]

Todibo is right footed.

we got beaten because WestHame ofered salary of 4m, we proposed 2.5m. Their bid to Nice was 40m and 25% on future resale, we proposed 28+2m with out resale and as an option.

I think you should always stick to your guns for what you think a player is worth, there's no point in overpaying to compete with a team who obviously will pay whatever it takes to get him. But West Ham have to do that because they have PL money but not the same pulling power. We clearly never had any agreement with Nice. Then if the player wants to join fricking West Ham, let him. The issue here is spending several weeks wasted negotiating. And if we don't have an alternative to hand then it becomes a bit farcical. The later in the window the less good players are available, the more expensive they become, it comes full circle and you might as well have offered 40m for Todibo.

 

[Badass J Elkann]

I think you should always stick to your guns for what you think a player is worth, there's no point in overpaying to compete with a team who obviously will pay whatever it takes to get him. But West Ham have to do that because they have PL money but not the same pulling power. We clearly never had any agreement with Nice. Then if the player wants to join fricking West Ham, let him. The issue here is spending several weeks wasted negotiating. And if we don't have an alternative to hand then it becomes a bit farcical. The later in the window the less good players are available, the more expensive they become, it comes full circle and you might as well have offered 40m for Todibo.

The formula is basically the same, we offered more or less the same money with option to buy with easily attainable targets, but at a lower sell on value. Todibo clearly got fed up waiting weeks on our constant delays over small details, who can blame him. The failure of this deal is 100% on giuntoli.

 

[kocunar]

Getting Sutalo might save our mercato

 

[JuveJay]

The formula is basically the same, we offered more or less the same money with option to buy with easily attainable targets, but at a lower sell on value. Todibo clearly got fed up waiting weeks on our constant delays over small details, who can blame him. The failure of this deal is 100% on giuntoli.

See the post I replied to, it's not the same.

If you don't sign a main target it's always a failure. But it's not like the market is easy and you sign whoever you want. I read some posts about going "all in", paying whatever to get it done. Nah, this is Paratici's way of doing business, why we are trying to do deals this summer with loan + obligations. I get people are disappointed and in panic mode but we should stick to our offer and have other options available.

 

[Akshen]

The formula is basically the same, we offered more or less the same money with option to buy with easily attainable targets, but at a lower sell on value. Todibo clearly got fed up waiting weeks on our constant delays over small details, who can blame him. The failure of this deal is 100% on giuntoli.

He gambled on players will and got backfired. Failure of this deal is not on him, only thing on him is that he wasted so much time on this deal, shouldnt let this drag so long and should move to another target. He thought Nice and player would act like Juve and Soule on the deal with Roma, but the player wasnt so adamant on one club here.

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Getting Sutalo might save our mercato

is he good?

 

[Amer]

Getting Sutalo might save our mercato

It can't certainly wreck it.

Because it's already wrecked.

 

[Badass J Elkann]

Getting Sutalo might save our mercato

Are you serious? He's fucking awful

 

[Catenaccio]

Calma Calma

The fact remains. Our defence has not changed, our midfield is better. Attack is an open question. So far our net spend is actually negative and our wage bill is lower.

I am just as disappointed as most of you on Todibo and I think Giubtoli was too slow after having sold Soule and Huijsen weeks ago.

but at the same time, it’s far from being a disaster. Let’s see how we end up before we go rating the mercato a disaster

 

[Badass J Elkann]

See the post I replied to, it's not the same.

If you don't sign a main target it's always a failure. But it's not like the market is easy and you sign whoever you want. I read some posts about going "all in", paying whatever to get it done. Nah, this is Paratici's way of doing business, why we are trying to do deals this summer with loan + obligations. I get people are disappointed and in panic mode but we should stick to our offer and have other options available.

No there is a difference between not signing a player due to a difference in valuation but Giuntoli simply failed in nailing the small details, the fee of the transfer was all seemingly agreed, just not the smaller details. For that reason alone I'm really disappointed and angry, Calafiori is a different case because the valuation were miles apart from what we were prepared to pay, fair enough. But to think we spent weeks failing to secure a player that broke down due to small details I find really unacceptable, especially at this stage of the window.

 

[Robee]

No there is a difference between not signing a player due to a difference in valuation but Giuntoli simply failed in nailing the small details, the fee of the transfer was all seemingly agreed, just not the smaller details. For that reason alone I'm really disappointed and angry, Calafiori is a different case because the valuation were miles apart from what we were prepared to pay, fair enough. But to think we spent weeks failing to secure a player that broke down due to small details I find really unacceptable, especially at this stage of the window.

It was the sell-on fee. Nice wanted 25% plus that 35 mil valuation. Whether ornnot that's a detail, is open for debate. But if we'd sell him for 40 mil, that's another 10 million...

 

[GarfielD]

Should have went for Strahinja Pavlovic, would have been perfect.... oh well.

 

[Siamak]

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There is one easy candidate for our defense - Scalvini, but of course we wont be getting him from Atalanta, especially this year.

 

[Badass J Elkann]

Should have went for Strahinja Pavlovic, would have been perfect.... oh well.

Yup I agree.

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It was the sell-on fee. Nice wanted 25% plus that 35 mil valuation. Whether ornnot that's a detail, is open for debate. But if we'd sell him for 40 mil, that's another 10 million...

I don't think that's too unreasonable. I certainly shouldn't think it's enough to cause a transfer to collapse. I wish we took a leaf out of their play book regarding sell on clauses.

 

[juve123]

Giuntoli could save and keep the money to sign Koopmeiners in January window if he doesn't arrive now. Juve will not bow down to the excessive demands of Atalanta.

[@LucaMarchetti)

 

[Bianconero81]

Excellent strategy. Let's fuck around and wait some more. Very insighful and visionary approach to ensuring you acquire your marquee signing.

If Koop doesn't arrive, and with our failure to secure Tobido, this mercato will be regarded an epic fail.

 

[PhRoZeN]

He might actually win on this one as Koop is more serious about joining us than Todibo, but at what cost? He's literally stalled our market with this negative energy of waiting and stupid negotiation games. The best thing he can do while he waits is work on selling our deadwoods. Even it means selling with loan + option.

 

[Boksic]

Giuntoli could save and keep the money to sign Koopmeiners in January window if he doesn't arrive now. Juve will not bow down to the excessive demands of Atalanta.

[@LucaMarchetti)

This is the problem by going all in on one target, who is at a team that sees us as a direct competitor and leaving it late in the window so there are few alternatives for us or for them to find a replacement.

Atalanta know he is our number one target and to be fair to them they are within their rights to push us to overpay because we apparently have no plan B.

 

[Orgut]

So no Todibo and now we need a CB again.
Anyone on the radar?

 

[Robee]

So no Todibo and now we need a CB again.
Anyone on the radar?

Marcos Senesi being named but my guess is, it's too soon to name the real target.