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Pirlo's Beard

Junkie Joe Joyce
Oct 2, 2013
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Mata's stats are anything but good but I grant him the "Latino ruined by Manchester" benefit of a doubt
We seen what he was capable of playing in his preferred role at Chelsea. Mou came along and wanted dat dere workr8 and his favoured position has been almost exclusively off limits at United since then. He's one of those really good players who just can't get to stay in his ideal position permanently. Reminds me of Cavani who was considered a World class #9 at Napoli spent years playing in a stupid role for his National Team and then moved to PSG and was no longer the first choice CF for either club or country.

Then you have journeyman scrubs who average 10 goals/season that always get the spot they want.
 

Xperd

Allegrophobic Infidel
Jun 1, 2012
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Mata surrounded by a host Of workhorses in the Juve lineup=Pirlo 2.0 aka he'll be at his best
again
I think he'll end up staying at United tho.
 

Pirlo's Beard

Junkie Joe Joyce
Oct 2, 2013
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I am really looking forward to seeing Mandzukic playing for us, him and Licht will secure plenty of hatred and death threats from opposing fans with their thuggery. And he's the best striker i've ever played with on FIFA in past years. 6'2 with like 90 jumping and heading :lol:
 

lgorTudor

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Jan 15, 2015
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He's world class.

Your boy Hamsik isn't :smile:
I believe in numbers because they don't lie and make up shit, like you do (not the lying part, the making up shit part :D)

PS you complained that 27 yo Hamsik was too old, now guess Mata's age. See how ridiculous it is to complain about this kind of age
 

Hust

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Hustini
May 29, 2005
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I am really looking forward to seeing Mandzukic playing for us, him and Licht will secure plenty of hatred and death threats from opposing fans with their thuggery. And he's the best striker i've ever played with on FIFA in past years. 6'2 with like 90 jumping and heading :lol:
:lol:
 

Xperd

Allegrophobic Infidel
Jun 1, 2012
34,901
I believe in numbers because they don't lie and make up shit, like you do
Easy tiger....

Now you really don't want to claim now that Hamsik is better than Mata because he has better stats would you ? I really expect better from you.

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Mr.IgorTudor, Mata is 27, world class player, extremely popular and would sell a lot of jerseys.
Hamsik doesn't fit any of the criteria.
 

lgorTudor

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Jan 15, 2015
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Tbf numbers tell some of the story. But definitely not all of it. Generally Chiellini has had much better passing stats than Pirlo over their respective careers, for example.
Different positions, everybody knows the more limited a defender the more security passes he plays. Ogbonna has like 90%+ completed passes.

When similar positions, numbers tell a whole lot more. But as I said I give Mata the benfit of a doubt because we know how EPL treats their spanish speakers

Mr.IgorTudor, Mata is 27, world class player, extremely popular and would sell a lot of jerseys.
Hamsik doesn't fit any of the criteria.
All I'm saying that I rather drop 30M on Hamsik than 40 on Mata. end of story
 

Xperd

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Jun 1, 2012
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I think you really have a thing against Spanish players.

Or maybe I'm taking your bait again :D

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Different positions, everybody knows the more limited a defender the more security passes he plays. Ogbonna has like 90%+ completed passes.

When similar positions, numbers tell a whole lot more. But as I said I give Mata the benfit of a doubt because we know how EPL treats their spanish speakers


All I'm saying that I rather drop 30M on Hamsik than 40 on Mata. end of story
I disagree.

Mata at his best is elite.Hamsik doesn't come close imo.

Also I would rather €40m on Mata purely because of commercial reasons again.

Btw Mata is '88 born while Hamsik is '87.jus saying
 

lgorTudor

Senior Member
Jan 15, 2015
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I think you really have a thing against Spanish players.

Or maybe I'm taking your bait again :D
For the same price I take Mata over Hamsik because I feel he is a class player being held back by Luis Van Troll. But when there are 10-15M inbetween I will chosse the Slovak.

You have to realize that the circumstances speak against transfers from EPL tho. Weak euro, high wages, ManUtd's financial power combined with LVG's fetish to just stack expensive players
 

andriy

GIMME THAT HOT SAUCE!
Jun 23, 2009
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Mata's stats are anything but good but I grant him the "Latino ruined by Manchester" benefit of a doubt
When Mata was getting linked with us sometime last year (2 years ago?) a lot of people here did not want him from what I remember. Would love to see him here, great player and would fit the AM perfectly. IMO he was just misused at United for awhile. Won't happen though, so Pereyra it is!
 

Daddi

Cuadrado is juan hell of a derby king!
Oct 27, 2004
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Hamsik shouldve come here 2-3 seasons ago when Nedved said he was the bomb (next nedved)

He blew it IMO.

Dont want him here
 
Apr 29, 2006
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There is no one to buy for a reasonable amount that would make us better in this moment. And Mata is definitely NOT Juventus No10 material. Sure he can fill the gap, but he isn't even on the level of Tevez.

PS: All right I see what people are doing here - throwing names for the sake of it these days.
 
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