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You can afford to have average or slow central defenders if your fullbacks are pacy. When playing possession football, you need that pace to avoid counter attacks. Especially in Champions League, where the big guns have incredible fast players.
Not really.

Given how high up the pitch fullbacks tend to get now when a team has possession, they are frequently pretty irrelevant when it comes to defending counter-attacks.

The pace of centre-halves and the deep midfielder(s) is far more significant with regards to counter-attacks.

Where quick fullbacks are great is that you can leave them to play against an opponent one on one, rather than feeling the need to protect them as you might with a slower player.

That gives you the chance to maintain the shape of the team better.

Given Juve's inclination towards 4-3-1-2, a system that naturally leaves the fullbacks pretty exposed, you need players who can deal with wingers with limited support from the rest of the team.
 

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Not really.

Given how high up the pitch fullbacks tend to get now when a team has possession, they are frequently pretty irrelevant when it comes to defending counter-attacks.

The pace of centre-halves and the deep midfielder(s) is far more significant with regards to counter-attacks.

Where quick fullbacks are great is that you can leave them to play against an opponent one on one, rather than feeling the need to protect them as you might with a slower player.

That gives you the chance to maintain the shape of the team better.

Given Juve's inclination towards 4-3-1-2, a system that naturally leaves the fullbacks pretty exposed, you need players who can deal with wingers with limited support from the rest of the team.
as i remember when milan adopt this style the had cafu and serginho, both of them where more wingers that FBs and it works well for them tell age start taking milan apart.

in 4312, full backs has alot work to do when you play with wingers in front of them.
 

Fr3sh

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as i remember when milan adopt this style the had cafu and serginho, both of them where more wingers that FBs and it works well for them tell age start taking milan apart.

in 4312, full backs has alot work to do when you play with wingers in front of them.
But those two had like 3 lungs never got tired.
 

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But those two had like 3 lungs never got tired.
The key was that Milan, while allowing the fullbacks to attack a lot, tended to keep plenty of other players behind the ball.

That meant that the fullbacks didn't have to race back to get into position after they ball was lost, so they could conserve energy.
 

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Buffon
Darmian - Bonucci - Chiellini - Asamoah/Evra
Vidal - Marchisio - Pogba
Dybala - Tevez
Morata




Storari
Licht - Barz - Rugani - Padoin
Allan - Pirlo - Sturaro
Pereyra
any 2 of our strikers




:tuttosport:

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuu


I think our B team would get over 70 points per season.
 

Pirlo's Beard

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If I change it before tomorrow the spirits will punish us all

Roma, Inter, Napoli, Dortmund, Olympiakos, Monaco, Madrid. All fall victim to the spirits. But the key is, I never ever changed my avatar when people asked me to.
 

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Buffon
Darmian - Bonucci - Chiellini - Asamoah/Evra
Vidal - Marchisio - Pogba
Dybala - Tevez
Morata




Storari
Licht - Barz - Rugani - Padoin
Allan - Pirlo - Sturaro
Pereyra
any 2 of our strikers




:tuttosport:

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuu


I think our B team would get over 70 points per season.
great bro :tup:
 
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But those two had like 3 lungs never got tired.
that the point, with 4312 basically you dont have wingers so your FBs must be really perfect in almost everything or at least in work rate, speed and attacking skills ( dribbling and crossing).

defensively the midfielders have to cover them and help in defense, if you look to our starting 11 we are almost having the same 3 in the front of the defense and i will see what we have has better defense that what milan had back then and that will help to do better job in covering the FBs back.

but if we toke milan team a blue print we are better in some part and we need work in others.

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Never paid too much attention to it, would make sense with the gattuso's and ambrosini (ugly $#@!)
basically it was

gattuso - pirlo - sedorf

kaka

and that changed a little by time but the main three where the core there.
 

Hust

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How happy is Allegri reading all these rumors today?

Hours after Dybala confirmed he is reading in the news of Cavani & Darmian.


:beppe:
 

zizinho

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No way we pay more then 15-16 mil for Darmian and he's definitely not better then Rodriguez. Just imagine if we get Kurzwa and Darmian LB and RB would be set up for 10 years. My wish for this mercato after getting Dybala.
Rodriguez is promising and one of the best fullbacks in the BL but Darmian is not worse than him, especially defensively, where i think he is better...
 
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Actually he probably knows exactly who what he wants from them and how it will all look.
I believe it's all done with him being in it.
true.... i dont think marotta doing his things without asking him but tbh with all this players linked i think there is a major change in the formation.

we might see 433 or 4321 and dybala can play this two formation plus 4312 behind the strikers
 

Juliano13

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May 6, 2012
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Buffon
Darmian - Bonucci - Chiellini - Asamoah/Evra
Vidal - Marchisio - Pogba
Dybala - Tevez
Morata




Storari
Licht - Barz - Rugani - Padoin
Allan - Pirlo - Sturaro
Pereyra
any 2 of our strikers




:tuttosport:

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuu


I think our B team would get over 70 points per season.
So you would sell Caceres and keep Licht for a sub on the higher wage even though he is 3-4 years older? And which 2 strikers are you referring to? You already fielded 3 of them in the first team? Otherwise not bad (except Barza on the bench).

PS. Who the fuck is Allan?
 
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