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Adrian

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zizinho said:
14M for Pereyra is an OK price. not a spectacular deal like the Vidal one for example but still a good deal. and we will keep him ofcourse because he plays well this season. Asamoah is our starting LB. so why convert him into a 5th CM, limit his playing time, and drop the quality of the starting XI. Evra is a backup for Asamoah, and when he leaves in 2016 then we wll probably bring in a new LB. Romulo is a decent rotation player. he was unlucky to get injured to show that. are you gonna judge a player that played only one game? we paid 5M for the likes of Padoin and Pelus, so 6M for a player that can play CM, RWB, RB, was close to the italian WC squad, was among the leaders in assists last season, is an excellent crosser and can take set pieces... id say thats a good price for him...

Caceres whenever he plays shows that he can be relied on. last season when we lost Barzagli he entered into the starting XI and did an excellent job. he continued so at the beginning of this season in a 3 man defense, and now that he returned he does great at RB too. hes our best player on the bench now that Marchisio is a starter. you dont simply give up on players like him because he is injured often. when he is fit he makes up for it.

Barzagli should not retire. ofcourse if he feels that he cant play anymore he should do it, but not because some of us feel he might miss the next season too. i believe he will be back and reach his old form again next season. his fitness status is questionable at the moment but next season i see him returning to his usual self.

Asamoah is our starting LB. it will stay so until someone better arrives. and did you even see Evra this season? if we didnt have him e would be in big trouble since Asamoah is practically out for the majority of the season. when he retires/goes to MLS after next season then we will find a new LB (a young promising one i hope)

Vidal was the best CM in the world last season. this season he is out of form due to his long injury but he will be back. and we would be stupid IF we considered such a low offer. so unless he himself wants to go we have no reason to sell him. as for Pogba, sometimes i ask myself if people know what club they are supporting. we can refuse any offer for Pogba. the only way Pogba leaves is the same as with Vidal. if he wants to go. not Raiola, not Perez, it is only if/when Pogba decides to go that we will sell him. so stop making no sense and speaking of us as we were Tottenham or something. so we wont cash in on either of them for the sake of spending big and rebuilding the squad...
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Pererya plays well this season? 14m is an ok price for Pereyra? Let's agree to disagree on this one, I must be looking the other way when he gets the ball.

Asamoah needs to prove he can hold down the LB role. LWB and LB do differ. He is a natural midfielder and that is why we purchased him and using him in his natural position and rotating our midfielders isn't a bad option. Plus, a natural left back is better for the team.

Romulo - if anything we should try to loan him for another season but paying 6m for a player who hasn't been able to play due to injury and prove his worth doesn't sit right with me. Again though, happy for another loan next season, if he proves he can hold down a few back up roles then good for him.

Caceres - quality player, versatile and can help us change formation easily. Again, the dude is constantly injured. My stats could be wrong but 42 appearances in 3 years? You have to question his reliability.

Barzagli - turns 34 this May, has had serious injuries this season. Hope he proves me wrong but as a defender in todays world, he is going to struggle. Again, if we are to inject some younger talent, I would rather we kept Bonucci and Ogbonna, two defenders who have actually showed a lot of improvement this season than rely on a 34 year old coming off serious injuries.

Vidal - If not him it will be Pogba, and personally if selling Vidal for 40m plus at the age of 27/28 years old means we keep Pogba for another season or two, then I say go for it. We are better off maximizing the sale from Vidal before he nears 30 years of age. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to keep him but I just think the club wont spend big unless it sells at least one player for a substantial amount.

Again, I think you need a reality check on football today. Take your Juve hat off and realize we play in a league that has no money in comparison to England, Spain or Germany. Mid table teams in those leagues have more cash than us. We can't offer the wages or excitement in a league that other big clubs can. We sold Baggio and Zidane once...and we survived and rebuilt from those sales...why is everyone so reluctant to sell one player to fund other important signings?
 

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Bianconero81

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Eljo said:
primary 4312 with licht-barza-chello-asa;vidal-principe-pogba;pereyra;tevez llorente (if he finds form)
secondary 433 with caceres-rugani-ogbo-evra;romulo-sturaro-padoin;coman-morata-berardi
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:confused: It is the Wishlist thread Brah. The squad looks the same to me. Are we gonna line up without a keeper? :D

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petersmit said:
I don't understand the fapping over zaza... Is he better than any of our current strikers? No, so leave him at sassuolo
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vodka

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I'd say if we sell pogba or, more unlikely, vidal, then we have to move asamosh to CM and buy a proper Lb and Rb. Then two wingers. That's it
 
Catenaccio

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I know its only one match I have seen him play but I thought Allan was sensational for Udinese and has played well all year. I think his market value is 12-15m. He would be a good buy.

IF Someone was willing to splash 100m on Pogba and he wanted to leave. I would forget about players like Zaza and Berardi and get real quality up front. You could probably reinvest a lot fo that in getting a duo like Jovetic and Cavani for instance.

I'l sell Lllorente as well. 5 forwards like: Cavani, Jovetic, Tevez, Coman, Morata is pretty good if Pogba left.
 
JuveID

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Adrian said:
ok....where to start here....

Pereyra is 14m rising to 17m is it not? Even at 14m, it's overpaying. This is udinese, Marotta will pay the maximum for him cuz he will get a royalty in a swiss bank when dealing with them. We'll have marchisio, pirlo, pogba, asamoah and sturaro...plus that AM. Potentially Vidal if he is kept. note with a proper LB, Evra becomes cover and Asamoah is available for midfield again. So we re more than covered and Pereyra isnt needed. And you would keep Romulo??? riiiiiiiight.
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Marotta didnt pay maximum for Isla. First Agreement we must buy isla for 18,8 Million. Somehow, marotta can reduce it untill just 13,5 Million.
Still bad/risky deal. but Isla pay well in QPR. Maybe we can sell him at least 10 Million.

first, i think pereyra is bad deal. then i see him very useful right now.
in start of season, we already knew that pirlo is injured for 2 month. Vidal's knee also had a problems. Sturaro also on loan in genoa.
so we just had marchisio, pogba in CM who is in fit condition. Asamoah played as LWB in star of season
if we didnt bring pereyra, i dont think it would be good for the team.
he already played 19 appereances so far. 11 as starters 5 for subtitute.
also he got called up by Argentina NT.
also he is just 24 years old.
Pirlo is 35, Marchi is 29. Vidal and Pogba will leave juve in right time.
very good deal for 1,5 Million loan with buy option ( maybe obligation ) for 14,5 paid over xxx years.
 
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JuveID said:
Marotta didnt pay maximum for Isla. First Agreement we must buy isla for 18,8 Million. Somehow, marotta can reduce it untill just 13,5 Million.
Still bad/risky deal. but Isla pay well in QPR. Maybe we can sell him at least 10 Million.

first, i think pereyra is bad deal. then i see him very useful right now.
in start of season, we already knew that pirlo is injured for 2 month. Vidal's knee also had a problems. Sturaro also on loan in genoa.
so we just had marchisio, pogba in CM who is in fit condition. Asamoah played as LWB in star of season
if we didnt bring pereyra, i dont think it would be good for the team.
he already played 19 appereances so far. 11 as starters 5 for subtitute.
also he got called up by Argentina NT.
also he is just 24 years old.
Pirlo is 35, Marchi is 29. Vidal and Pogba will leave juve in right time.
very good deal for 1,5 Million loan with buy option ( maybe obligation ) for 14,5 paid over xxx years.
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not if qpr are relegated this season, new manager at qpr as well soon may decide against buying him up if they stay up
 
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Feb 12, 2006
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italiacalcio10 said:
I wonder if city would straight swap Llorente for Dzeko. City has the wingers to utilize Llorente's skill set and has a coach from La Liga. Might be good for both clubs.
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hmmm perhaps but I think pellegrini is more keen on someone with a bit of dimension to his game like Jovetic, Aguero and now Bony. Probably why negredo went

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pitbull

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jakku7 said:
Sooner or later Llorente will be benched by Morata permanently. Allegri said couple of days ago in an interview that players like Llorente may encounter plenty of problems in this formation. Tevez and Llorente/Morata are spaced out further apart now, than they were when Conte was at the helm. And this is main reason that Fernando has so much trouble and Morata copes better.
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Well the only reason Llorente hasn't been benched already is because Morata isn't doing so great either, I'm not sure if I'd be very comfortable with him and Zaza being our only CF's. You can't always have a Trezeguet upfront, but these guys are not particularly good goalscorers, at least not yet.
 
vodka

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Catenaccio said:
I know its only one match I have seen him play but I thought Allan was sensational for Udinese and has played well all year. I think his market value is 12-15m. He would be a good buy.

IF Someone was willing to splash 100m on Pogba and he wanted to leave. I would forget about players like Zaza and Berardi and get real quality up front. You could probably reinvest a lot fo that in getting a duo like Jovetic and Cavani for instance.

I'l sell Lllorente as well. 5 forwards like: Cavani, Jovetic, Tevez, Coman, Morata is pretty good if Pogba left.
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Some doubt whoscore.com, but as years goes by it becomes more and more the reflexion of who players are and how they perform. There you go: http://www.whoscored.com/Teams/86 Allan is by far the most import player for the team, and others at the team look like primavera players
 
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