Summer mercato 2015 (72 Viewers)

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Collaguazo

Pezuña Brava
Mar 4, 2012
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God knows what diseases that merda azzurro would bring to the dressing room. He would need to be put in quarantine first, throughly washed with bleach and gasoline and then under observation to see if he doesn't mutated into a deformed parasite that would contaminate our players.
 

Hist

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Jan 18, 2009
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The 2012 and 13 Pirlo was better then Marchisio will probably ever be. But the 2014 and 15 Pirlo was worse then Marchisio is. Comparing the 2014/15 squad with the 15/16, it's safe to say Marchisio is an upgrade to Pirlo.
Defensively not offensively. Pirlo's vision and long pass accuracy is still unmatched. If anyone can compete with him in terms of vision and long passing accuracy its alonso and modric and thats only because Pirlo declined.

Overall marchisio now is an upgrade on Pirlo yes because the weight of creating chances was carried by Tevez and Pogba too last season. But now that Tevez is gone and we are stacked on defensive CMs, a creative CM/CAM is needed again. You cant expect Dybala to equal Tevez on the best form of his life.

Let me put it this way. The offensively creative players from last season were (1)Tevez, (2) Pirlo, (3) Marchiso and (4) Pogba. Even then we were much less threatening in attack than the elite clubs and we wanted a world class CAM to bring us closer to the attack that the other teams have.

This season it is (1) marchisio, (2) Pogba and (3) Dybala. So not only is it 4 against 3 but also Tevez was at the best form of his life while dybala is still a youngster. So its 4 against 2.75 assuming Dybala is 75% as good as the best Tevez. We need a great CAM to numerically maintain the same level of last season in attack. Some one who can make up for (Pirlo's creativity + the difference between Tevez and dybala).

The priority should thus be a CAM to maintain our offensive level. Next year we would naturally improve without signings because of the increased chemistry of the CAM and dybala, and the growth of the CAM, Dybala, Morata and Pogba. We would only need to fix the defense and GK situation.

I dont expect us to be as good as last season. No one should. Last season we were over-performing and had a very stable squad. This year its transition so the objective should be QF and scudetto. If the decrease in quality is from finalists to QFs then Management have succeeded.
 

Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
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Last season, before Pogba got injured, the Marchisio, Pogba, Vidal, Pereyra midfield was the best midfield we've seen all season.
You could look at statistics and see Pirlo do creatively more. But in '14 and '15 he dragged down the team to a slow play centering around him or Tevez
When we look at the MPVP, we see a much more dynamic team, that gets much more out of all players, and was significantly more solid defensively, while beeing quite excellent going forward.


The coppa we start marchisio, pereyra, pogba;dybala;morata, mandzukic, wich also has plenty of potential. we'll see how it goes. Personally i'd prefer an actual trequartista and Dybala as an SS with eighter Mandzukic or Morata.
 

Hist

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Jan 18, 2009
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Last season, before Pogba got injured, the Marchisio, Pogba, Vidal, Pereyra midfield was the best midfield we've seen all season.
You could look at statistics and see Pirlo do creatively more. But in '14 and '15 he dragged down the team to a slow play centering around him or Tevez
When we look at the MPVP, we see a much more dynamic team, that gets much more out of all players, and was significantly more solid defensively, while beeing quite excellent going forward.


The coppa we start marchisio, pereyra, pogba;dybala;morata, mandzukic, wich also has plenty of potential. we'll see how it goes. Personally i'd prefer an actual trequartista and Dybala as an SS with eighter Mandzukic or Morata.
I disagree. The best we saw last season was without vidal. It was both Pirlo and marchisio starting and pogba was in very good form. This is around the time when pereyra surprised us by also contributing a lot. Thats as far as I recall at least. Maybe you are right I dont know.

Either way my main point is that we are now shorter on creativity than before in midfield and will very likely be shorter on creativity in attack unless Dybala equals Tevez's creative level. A CAM would go a great deal in optimizing everyone's creativity. If its not a CAM then at least a creative CM. Someone who is more creative than Khedira and chisio.
 

Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
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You do forget about Pogba, who gets alot more freedom then last year. Marchisio was allready sending out long trough passes when CDM. Dybala is quite a creative player

Dybala can be cam. But i prefer a natural one and have Dybala ss offcourse.
 

Catenaccio

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Jul 15, 2002
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Benteke 46m or Mandzukic for 19m? Morata for 20m was a bargain (notwithstanding a buy back at 35m which still looks like a bargain compared to Benteke)

I don't get how these EPL clubs overspend on players. imagine if one or two of them had Marotta as their sporting director - they would be champions league finalists every year!
 

Juventino[RUS]

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Mar 9, 2006
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Top 10 by the money that were paid so far
1 epl
Raheem Sterling
62,50 Mill. €

2 epl
Christian Benteke
46,50 Mill. €

3 epl
Roberto Firmino
41,00 Mill. €

4 bundesliga
Arturo Vidal
37,00 Mill. €

5 la liga
Jackson Martínez
35,00 Mill. €

6 epl
Morgan Schneiderlin
35,00 Mill. €

7 la liga
Arda Turan
34,00 Mill. €

8 serie a
Paulo Dybala
32,00 Mill. €

9 la liga
Danilo Danilo
31,50 Mill. €

10 serie a
Carlos Bacca

serie a
Geoffrey Kondogbia

la liga
Rodrigo Rodrigo

la liga
Álvaro Negredo

bundesliga
Douglas Costa

all for 30,00 Mill. €
 
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