Summer mercato 2015 (69 Viewers)

[Badass J Elkann]

As a unit it's a decent defense. Tbh Barzagli - Chiellini would be up there tho. Any defense containing Bonucci and Ogbonna can't be considered as one definitely, they're lucky they barely are exposed in Serie A.

Barzagli's brain compensates for chiellini's or bonucci's stupidity

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Now you exaggerate. Sure Chiellini is not WC by any means but don't put him in the same bracket as the other two

well for one he had that brain fart moment last season against real madrid when giving away the penalty

 

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[italiacalcio10]

Just to put Allan's ability as a destroyer into perspective. He has the highest tackles per game in all of the 4 major leagues. He is also good on the ball and has a tremendous workrate.

 

[Pirlo's Beard]

Just to put Allan's ability as a destroyer into perspective. He has the highest tackles per game in all of the 4 major leagues. He is also good on the ball and has a tremendous workrate.

Do want

 

[zizinho]

Just to put Allan's ability as a destroyer into perspective. He has the highest tackles per game in all of the 4 major leagues. He is also good on the ball and has a tremendous workrate.

get him

 

[Badass J Elkann]

no just spend it on some God damn quality and actually improving our starting 11

 

[j0ker]

We certainly need more CMs.

We have only 9 of them.

 

[PowerNedved]

GK: Buffon, Neto
RB: Litch, Vrasjlko
CB: Bonucci, Barzagli, Chiellini, Rugani
LB: Willems, Evra
CM: Pirlo, Vidal, Pogba, Marchisio, Sturaro, Asamoah
AM: Jovetic
SS: Tevez, Berardi
CF: Morata, Zaza

Unless we sell Pogba or Vidal I dont think we should buy Pereyra since he isn't the AM we want and we have many CM

 

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We certainly need more CMs.

We have only 9 of them.

Pogba, Marchisio, Vidal, Pirlo, Pereyra, Sturaro

I'm missing 3

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And please don't say Romulo, Asamoah and Padoin. They're not considered CMs anymore.

 

[Pirlo's Beard]

Pogba, Marchisio, Vidal, Pirlo, Pereyra, Sturaro

I'm missing 3

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And please don't say Romulo, Asamoah and Padoin. They're not considered CMs anymore.

Not to mention Pirlo shouldn't be starting, and we have zero defensive mids. Which was fine when Pirlo was in top form but he's too old now. We'd benefit from defensive cover for two reasons.

obviously our defending/pressing would be miles better AND Pogba/Vidal/Mar would have much less babysitting duties to perform next to an actual DM.

 

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Not to mention Pirlo shouldn't be starting, and we have zero defensive mids. Which was fine when Pirlo was in top form but he's too old now. We'd benefit from defensive cover for two reasons.

obviously our defending/pressing would be miles better AND Pogba/Vidal/Mar would have much less babysitting duties to perform next to an actual DM.

Yeah, I think no one is feeling Pirlo anymore, and he would automatically be excluded out of the Starting XI if we had a competent CAM.

Having a player like Allan could be very useful, specially if Vidal doesn't recovers as we all hope he will. Our midfield looks weak as of now, Marchisio can't aport as much defensively as Vidal does, and Pogba doesn't seems to have as much defensive responsibility as he used to do.

Still, Pogba-Marchisio-Vidal is a WC midfield, Allan would be a luxury, considering we also have Pereyra and Sturaro.

Maybe if we manage not to buy Pereyra or Pirlo decides to go? Otherwise I don't see much space left. Starting to feel sorry for Sturaro.

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

We should absolutely go for Allan. Might even make playing Pirlo more viable again if he's as good defensively as everyone is saying.

 

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[DelPieroJuve]

GK: Buffon, Neto
RB: Litch, Vrasjlko
CB: Bonucci, Barzagli, Chiellini, Rugani
LB: Willems, Evra
CM: Pirlo, Vidal, Pogba, Marchisio, Sturaro, Asamoah
AM: Jovetic
SS: Tevez, Berardi
CF: Morata, Zaza

Unless we sell Pogba or Vidal I dont think we should buy Pereyra since he isn't the AM we want and we have many CM

Caceres?

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We should absolutely go for Allan. Might even make playing Pirlo more viable again if he's as good defensively as everyone is saying.

we don't need another midfielder. out 2nd midfield is better than any serie a midfield (exept roma)

 

[Pirlo's Beard]

Caceres?

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we don't need another midfielder. out 2nd midfield is better than any serie a midfield (exept roma)

Wish people would stop generalising players roles so much

Sure, we have a lot of midfielders. And yet our combined total of playmaking CAM's and ball winning CDMs is a whopping ZERO.


We have enough b2b mids to fill 2 teams but that doesn't change the fact 2 'midfield' positions in our squad are completely neglected.

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

Caceres?

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we don't need another midfielder. out 2nd midfield is better than any serie a midfield (exept roma)

Wish people would stop generalising players roles so much

Sure, we have a lot of midfielders. And yet our combined total of playmaking CAM's and ball winning CDMs is a whopping ZERO.


We have enough b2b mids to fill 2 teams but that doesn't change the fact 2 'midfield' positions in our squad are completely neglected.

^^^

Also, what's with your avatar?

 

[DelPieroJuve]

Wish people would stop generalising players roles so much

Sure, we have a lot of midfielders. And yet our combined total of playmaking CAM's and ball winning CDMs is a whopping ZERO.


We have enough b2b mids to fill 2 teams but that doesn't change the fact 2 'midfield' positions in our squad are completely neglected.

we have players who can play diffrent roles. We can play wither Pirlo, Marchisio, Sturaro and even Pogba in front of defence and we can play Vidal Pogba Pereyra Marchisio Sturaro Asamoah in the b2b midfield option. We need to focus on getting Attacking mids/Wingers and adapting a faster attacking style.

teams like atletico have tiago (our reject) and gabi in midfield and they do compleatly fine. that's because they have the likes of koke, turan and girezman running the channels. We need a turan type of player in our team not another CM even if he is playing well.

Allan, Vazquez... players like these will play for milan and inter not juve.

 

[Pirlo's Beard]

^^^

Also, what's with your avatar?

All i'm gonna say is since I put Roma in my avatar they've been playing like shit so who am I to argue with the footballing Gods.

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we have players who can play diffrent roles. We can play wither Pirlo, Marchisio, Sturaro and even Pogba in front of defence and we can play Vidal Pogba Pereyra Marchisio Sturaro Asamoah in the b2b midfield option. We need to focus on getting Attacking mids/Wingers and adapting a faster attacking style.

teams like atletico have tiago (our reject) and gabi in midfield and they do compleatly fine. that's because they have the likes of koke, turan and girezman running the channels. We need a turan type of player in our team not another CM even if he is playing well.

Allan, Vazquez... players like these will play for milan and inter not juve.

I'm not suggesting we make a cm our priority but we could definitely use a DM

Yeah we COULD play those players at DM, but incase you haven't realised, taking players and shoving them in to a role they are not comfortable with ruins the team. We should have a player who is actually suited to each position. So assuming we stick to a 4-3-1-2/4-4-2 diamond we need to get a CAM, a proper holding midfielder and a full back or 2 wouldn't hurt.

 

[DelPieroJuve]

All i'm gonna say is since I put Roma in my avatar they've been playing like $#@! so who am I to argue with the footballing Gods.

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I'm not suggesting we make a cm our priority but we could definitely use a DM

Yeah we COULD play those players at DM, but incase you haven't realised, taking players and shoving them in to a role they are not comfortable with ruins the team. We should have a player who is actually suited to each position. So assuming we stick to a 4-3-1-2/4-4-2 diamond we need to get a CAM, a proper holding midfielder and a full back or 2 wouldn't hurt.

imo Marchisio has been superb at DM. If he's not playing i would see sturaro in that position otherwide we would not have bought him back. I also don't see a 5th fullback unless we get rid of evra or the 5th fullback is going to be super cheap or padoin v2. remeber we only have 25 spots for players!

 

[italiacalcio10]

imo Marchisio has been superb at DM. If he's not playing i would see sturaro in that position otherwide we would not have bought him back. I also don't see a 5th fullback unless we get rid of evra or the 5th fullback is going to be super cheap or padoin v2. remeber we only have 25 spots for players!

Marchisio is more of a defensively responsible deep lying playmaker in that position. He isn't a destroyer.

It's like comparing Gattuso/Combiasso with Pirlo/Thiago Motta. Marchisio is playing as a deep lying playmaker, but evidently due to his defensive ability, he is more complete than Pirlo.

One thing is for sure. If we do buy a destroyer, when he is player, we'll need a more creative option playing in the hole. With a regista, a Pereyra type option works because the creativity comes from deeper.

That being said Vidal could play as a destroyer if asked. He's just too used to scoring b/c of Conte. Someone needs to tell our MFs that usually strikers score, and that Conte's system of the striker decoy isn't the norm.

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http://www.squawka.com/players/alla...eason-2014/2015#137#all-matches#1-23#by-match

Btw, Squawka has Giovinco as the best forward in Serie A for 2014/2015 on a per 90 min basis. Interesting...
wonder how the algorithms differ...

http://www.whoscored.com/Regions/10...1369/PlayerStatistics/Italy-Serie-A-2014-2015

 

[CalcioJuventus]

I'd love Allan. Any time I've seen him play, he's ferocious. And surprisingly we're lacking a player like him. We have 4 box to box midfielders, and a regista. We don't have a destroyer. Unlike Vidal, Allan is defense first, so I'm sure at the minimum he'd fill a need (assuming we kept both).
I also think he'd be reasonably priced. Vasquez I'm more skeptical. He's good on a provincial squad and he's 25. It would be nice if he panned out and declared for Italy because lord knows we need an attacking midfielder. Our fantasista prospects are at an all time low.

For Vidal on the other hand. We'll get 20 million for him now max (given his injury concerns and form). Worse, he could let his contract expire and leave on a free. As far as I'm concerned with Vidal, right now, putting Pereyra in form him is not a big deal because this isn't the Vidal we know. It might sound extreme, but if he still has remnants of the injury, I'd rest him until he is better. I'd also get him on an extension as soon as possible. I've had a knee injury, and rest is the only way.

Also on Vidal, given his injury, a change in coach/tactics, the manchester united ****, it's not surprising to see him play worse. The priority has to be taking the prudent approach in letting him recover (if that's the issue), and getting that extension penned.

I would love to sign Allan.

Also, Vidal is still worth a lot more than 20 million. He is fit and playing and playing pretty well in a position not his own.
Also to say he is worth 20 million when some pretty shitty players are going for much more then that is pretty crazy. Vidal would walk into most teams starting 11s.