Instead of spreading the money like we have done until now, it's time to focus on one or two top players.
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Instead of spreading the money like we have done until now, it's time to focus on one or two top players.
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talentless league 
past couple of years this league left T. Silva, Cavani, Lavezzi, Sanchez, Sirigu, Verratti... even now Pogba, Pjanic, Berardi, Perin, Rugani, Dybala etc. no talent at all in this league. none of the strikers are even Iaquinta level 
. top teams will be fielding these teams you listed, yes. we will be fielding Tevez, Morata, Berardi/potentially new signing. youre talking trash again. "risks with unknowns" that would be true if we got Berardi 2 years ago. we signed him and left him at Sassuolo for 2 years and scouted him so we pretty much know very well what we are getting which means he is not a n unknown. i guess you were one of the people that were against signing Verratti too and are now hoping we can get him for 30M. so again, as usual, youre wrong.
this whole thing you wrote doesent make sense anyway^^
Marchisio was a starter for years for us. Pogba is here 2 seasons (this is his 3rd one), in his 1st Marchisio was starting, in his 2nd Marchisio was a "bench player" but played as much as the other 3. this season he is an official starter again. hardly can call him a bench player. one of Vidal/Pogba is not likely to leave, you again are taking ideas out of nowhere, and both are likely to be long time starters along with Marchisio so the drop in quality is not existent, especially with Pogba improving every year.
Bonucci-Chiellini is our starting duo (depending on what shape Barzagli will return in) and Rugani is only 20. he wont start right away after coming here, unless he surprises everyone and is an exceptional talent like Nesta or Cannavaro. even if so it would take him a year or two to settle in before getting a starting spot. Caceres is a backup for Licht and when fit is close to a starting spot. i havent seen these people fielding Caceres-Rugani but thats highly unlikely.
i was very happy with his performances at LWB for the past 2 seasons. there is not such a big difference in playing LWB and LB. im sure he would have a similar game against Real had we played 3-5-2 with him at LWB. again, he is our starting LB and when he returns from injury next season he will get his starting spot again.
its not official yet but Neto is coming here at the end of the season. he will be a backup for Buffon for 3-4 years before Buffon retires. Leali is not returning and he is not a serie b keeper. he plays for Cesena in serie a
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can get Firmino for much less and lower wages
past couple of years this league left T. Silva, Cavani, Lavezzi, Sanchez, Sirigu, Verratti... even now Pogba, Pjanic, Berardi, Perin, Rugani, Dybala etc. no talent at all in this league. none of the strikers are even Iaquinta level . top teams will be fielding these teams you listed, yes. we will be fielding Tevez, Morata, Berardi/potentially new signing. youre talking trash again. "risks with unknowns" that would be true if we got Berardi 2 years ago. we signed him and left him at Sassuolo for 2 years and scouted him so we pretty much know very well what we are getting which means he is not a n unknown. i guess you were one of the people that were against signing Verratti too and are now hoping we can get him for 30M. so again, as usual, youre wrong.this whole thing you wrote doesent make sense anyway^^
Marchisio was a starter for years for us. Pogba is here 2 seasons (this is his 3rd one), in his 1st Marchisio was starting, in his 2nd Marchisio was a "bench player" but played as much as the other 3. this season he is an official starter again. hardly can call him a bench player. one of Vidal/Pogba is not likely to leave, you again are taking ideas out of nowhere, and both are likely to be long time starters along with Marchisio so the drop in quality is not existent, especially with Pogba improving every year.
Bonucci-Chiellini is our starting duo (depending on what shape Barzagli will return in) and Rugani is only 20. he wont start right away after coming here, unless he surprises everyone and is an exceptional talent like Nesta or Cannavaro. even if so it would take him a year or two to settle in before getting a starting spot. Caceres is a backup for Licht and when fit is close to a starting spot. i havent seen these people fielding Caceres-Rugani but thats highly unlikely.
i was very happy with his performances at LWB for the past 2 seasons. there is not such a big difference in playing LWB and LB. im sure he would have a similar game against Real had we played 3-5-2 with him at LWB. again, he is our starting LB and when he returns from injury next season he will get his starting spot again.
its not official yet but Neto is coming here at the end of the season. he will be a backup for Buffon for 3-4 years before Buffon retires. Leali is not returning and he is not a serie b keeper. he plays for Cesena in serie a
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can get Firmino for much less and lower wages
Berardi is having an okay season. Last season he shone in a small number of games where he scored tons of goals per game and then disappeared for 5-6 games at a time. This season he is doing ok but again he doesn't seem that he has the right natural talent to be a special player in my opinion and 2 above average seasons with Sassoulo guarantee nothing and Iturbe (who seems more talented) is a prime example of that. Hell even Morata with his Madrid experience is still a question mark. Lukaku has had very good seasons in belgium and in England so far with a mega money transfer and is still a question mark that no one knows if he will turn out great or just average. Pereyra had a good season at Udinese and is barely doing ok with us but is still a question mark. Muriel looked very talented and had a good season before turning out cack. Giovinco (I believe you were a great fan) and De Ceglie are the obvious examples ofcoarse. Munian too looked to be the real deal before turning out meh
Rugani is having a good season but again that guarantees nothing. Bonnuci and Rannochia formed the strongest defensive partnership in Serie A with Bari back when Silva, Nesta, lucio and Samuel were still around and yet they turned our nothing special with the former finally having a good season and the latter continuously sucking. Santon is another obvious example as well as criscito and more recently di sciglio who is still a question mark.
Dybala looks like he has talent but with him too its too early to judge.
Perin too doesn't look like a Courtois or a De Gea in the making he is just very young.
My whole point about youngesters is that we look like we are about to have too many of them in Coman, Pereyra, Morata, Rugani, Zaza, Berardi and even if they all look very promising (which is hardly the case) it is too dangerous to rely on that many of them. 2 of them should start in the same 11 at the very most if they turned out good enough or you risk collapse. You consistently make it seem that this is FM and the players will develop and fulfill the potential you think they have. It doesnt work that way and I've given you tens of examples and I am sure you can think of more. Past experience shows that its risky to depend on all of those youngsters in your team that is my point. Tone down your confidence.
About the midfield, I do think that we will lose one of Pogba and Vidal (and lets not pretend that there are no strong indicators for that from Marotta and Raiola) and even if we kept both the down grade from the Pirlo of past seasons to marchisio is huge. Pirlo is not the same I understand that and especially in the new formation we arent playing to his strengths but the Pirlo that carried this team almost completely for the first two seasons and carried Italy to the Euro finals is on a whole different level than anything we can get. We are already feeling his loss in this regard. Marchisio can keep the boat moving but he is nothing exceptional the way Pirlo was.
Moreover, Vidal (assuming he stays) has been in terrible form and Allegri has so far failed to get him back on track. We had off the field problems with him for the first time too and so we might not have Conte's vidal back for a very long time.
You do make a good point about Pogba's growth (assuming he stays) and that this might make up for the loss of Vidal's form as what is happenning now though Vidal was still more effective.
In a year, Tevez too will be gone who is literally carrying this team now with some assistance from Pogba.
In short, we have a big load of youngsters coming in, and established players going out. While that does not necessarily mean we will collapse, it is definitely a cause of concern. Your confidence that all these youngsters will become exactly what you expect from them is probably misplaced. We arent buying established stars we are betting on youngsters for the most part.
i have never said anything like that, you either misread or refuse to understand. 1st why do you think we have too many youngsters? Rugani, Sturaro, Berardi, Coman are the only u21 players along with Pogba next season. Morata is already taking a starting spot here which is good. i dont want to repeat the same stuff over and over again, you obviously refuse to show any trust in them and our managements judgement on them, i think all of the 4 have the potential to challenge for starting spots here in a few years.
you think that, thats OK. i think you are taking Raiola too serious. hes an agent, ofcourse he is gonna talk shit all the time to hype and increase the marketability of his players. i think a club like Juve wont allow itself to lose half its starting XI in one summer, but thats just me. and its not simply a downgrade from Pirlo to Marchisio (who is among the best players in the world at his position btw.) Pogba has improved a lot and is still improving so what we apparently lose with Pirlo we gain with Pogba. Marchisio is not as creative as Pirlo but is way stronger defensively and we can solve the creativity issue with an AM or with wingers. you seem to think we will never sign anyone again...
Allegri has failed to get him back on track? dont be ridiculous. he was inujred for half a year, he wont return to his top form over night. also, his type of injury is not exactly a "good" one. Allegri cant do much about this except play him and hope he returns which he is doing. "assuming he stays", love this one. you should use "assuming he leaves" since both are much more likely to stay. also, what off the field problems you are talking about?
Vidals form is a big question, maybe if he continues to under-perform we might decide to sell him like Llorente. but thats unlikely
yep, and we have 3 mercatos (2 summer, 1 winter) to solve this. also, we did fine without Tevez under Conte, who says we couldnt do it now (not saying we would)
Evra, Barzagli, Pirlo, Tevez in 2016, Buffon and maybe Licht in 2017 or 2018. plenty of time to replace them (Tevez mainly, the others already have replacements) IF Berardi, Coman and the others dont turn out as expected
you think that, thats OK. i think you are taking Raiola too serious. hes an agent, ofcourse he is gonna talk shit all the time to hype and increase the marketability of his players. i think a club like Juve wont allow itself to lose half its starting XI in one summer, but thats just me. and its not simply a downgrade from Pirlo to Marchisio (who is among the best players in the world at his position btw.) Pogba has improved a lot and is still improving so what we apparently lose with Pirlo we gain with Pogba. Marchisio is not as creative as Pirlo but is way stronger defensively and we can solve the creativity issue with an AM or with wingers. you seem to think we will never sign anyone again...
Allegri has failed to get him back on track? dont be ridiculous. he was inujred for half a year, he wont return to his top form over night. also, his type of injury is not exactly a "good" one. Allegri cant do much about this except play him and hope he returns which he is doing. "assuming he stays", love this one. you should use "assuming he leaves" since both are much more likely to stay. also, what off the field problems you are talking about?
Vidals form is a big question, maybe if he continues to under-perform we might decide to sell him like Llorente. but thats unlikely
yep, and we have 3 mercatos (2 summer, 1 winter) to solve this. also, we did fine without Tevez under Conte, who says we couldnt do it now (not saying we would)
Evra, Barzagli, Pirlo, Tevez in 2016, Buffon and maybe Licht in 2017 or 2018. plenty of time to replace them (Tevez mainly, the others already have replacements) IF Berardi, Coman and the others dont turn out as expected
I think our midfield is packed
start trio i'd go is:
Vidal-Marchisio-Pogba
benchers:
Pereyra-Sturaro-Asamoah
Defense is complete as well
CBs:
Barzagli-Bonucci-Chiellini
Rugani-Ogbonna-Caceres
LB/RBs:
Lichsteiner-Evra-Mattiello-Caceres (Asamoah)
Keepers:
Buffon,Neto,Storari (off Robinho)
We'll have to judge how things will develope in attack.
What i think it's gonna happen will make us complete.
Wingers: Coman,Berardi,Pepe
Strikers: Tevez,Morata,Zaza
Even with Pepe going off we're still pretty full.
My worries is that none of those is incisive as Tevez.
We have to check also if we'll play with wingers or not.
start trio i'd go is:
Vidal-Marchisio-Pogba
benchers:
Pereyra-Sturaro-Asamoah
Defense is complete as well
CBs:
Barzagli-Bonucci-Chiellini
Rugani-Ogbonna-Caceres
LB/RBs:
Lichsteiner-Evra-Mattiello-Caceres (Asamoah)
Keepers:
Buffon,Neto,Storari (off Robinho)
We'll have to judge how things will develope in attack.
What i think it's gonna happen will make us complete.
Wingers: Coman,Berardi,Pepe
Strikers: Tevez,Morata,Zaza
Even with Pepe going off we're still pretty full.
My worries is that none of those is incisive as Tevez.
We have to check also if we'll play with wingers or not.
we bought his half for 4.5M in 2013 (we sold them Marrones half for that amount so it was basically an exchange). we renewed the co-ownership in 2014 with an option to buy his other half for 15M this coming summer. a week or two ago, Sassuolos president said that we can buy him for 15M the 1st month of the coming summer mercato, after that the option increases to 20M. not sure if thats true or if that was what he actually said...
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If this happends then we are all happy
we have a deal with Neto, hes coming in the summer
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Buffon
Storari/Pinsoglio*
Lichtsteiner Barzagli Chiellini Asamoah
Caceres Bonucci Rugani Evra/Matiello*
Vidal Pirlo Pogba
Pereyra Sturaro Marchisio*/Vitale*
Mkhitaryan
Coman
Tevez Morata
Berardi Zaza
Storari/Pinsoglio*
Lichtsteiner Barzagli Chiellini Asamoah
Caceres Bonucci Rugani Evra/Matiello*
Vidal Pirlo Pogba
Pereyra Sturaro Marchisio*/Vitale*
Mkhitaryan
Coman
Tevez Morata
Berardi Zaza
If this happends then we are all happy
Its question mark what formation we will use. I think most of our newcomers in attack will not be suited for a 4312. Coman is as green as a lettuce in terms of experience..he will not be pressed with responsability, in fact he could be even loaned. Berardi seems to shine in 433... but he plays most likely cutting in. I see him being like the benchwarmer of Tevez if anything. Morata and Zaza will take Llorente´s place.
I would hate to see Berardi and Coman not playing..specially Coman, as him seems to be finding it really tought to break thru.
I would hate to see Berardi and Coman not playing..specially Coman, as him seems to be finding it really tought to break thru.
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