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OK, don't read this post if you haven't watched the movie (has spoilers):
Here are the amazing plot similarities with A NEW HOPE:
Film basically starts off with "secret plans or map" hidden in a droid who ends up being close to the central character (luke & rey)
Fin & Han Solo are both characters who have "converted" from either evil or being a smuggler to helping the resistance despite being apprehensive at first.
Luke Skywalker in the new movie has disappeared a bit like Obi Wan Kenobi did in A New Hope - both living on their own with beards with similar dress sense.
In both movies an OLD good guy gets killed by the villain (Obi Wan & Han Solo) where all the good guys are watching and shout: "NO!"
Both "emerging jedi" initially seem reluctant - Luke didn't want to leave his uncle and Rey simply didn't want the responsibility at first.
The villain and emerging jedi are related to the skywalker family.
The death star or mega death star in the new film - are huge and blow up in the end.
Villian doesn't die in both films.
Both emerging Jedi end the film having to learn the "force"
In both films - a lot of people have a "lack of faith" in the force and are skeptical of its existence.
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There are probably more that I haven't thought of.
Here are the amazing plot similarities with A NEW HOPE:
Film basically starts off with "secret plans or map" hidden in a droid who ends up being close to the central character (luke & rey)
Fin & Han Solo are both characters who have "converted" from either evil or being a smuggler to helping the resistance despite being apprehensive at first.
Luke Skywalker in the new movie has disappeared a bit like Obi Wan Kenobi did in A New Hope - both living on their own with beards with similar dress sense.
In both movies an OLD good guy gets killed by the villain (Obi Wan & Han Solo) where all the good guys are watching and shout: "NO!"
Both "emerging jedi" initially seem reluctant - Luke didn't want to leave his uncle and Rey simply didn't want the responsibility at first.
The villain and emerging jedi are related to the skywalker family.
The death star or mega death star in the new film - are huge and blow up in the end.
Villian doesn't die in both films.
Both emerging Jedi end the film having to learn the "force"
In both films - a lot of people have a "lack of faith" in the force and are skeptical of its existence.
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There are probably more that I haven't thought of.
So who do we think Rey really is?
Lukes daughter?
I think she may be the Kylo Rens twin sister as twins run in Luke/Leia's family.
Thats why Han took to her so quickly and even offered her a job and also why after his death Leia just walked straight past Chewie without even comforting him as him and Han were best friends and embraced Rey instead.
Obviously this is just an opinion and i could be dead wrong
Lukes daughter?
I think she may be the Kylo Rens twin sister as twins run in Luke/Leia's family.
Thats why Han took to her so quickly and even offered her a job and also why after his death Leia just walked straight past Chewie without even comforting him as him and Han were best friends and embraced Rey instead.
Obviously this is just an opinion and i could be dead wrong
Yeah certainly could go either way and if we have learned one thing from the new film its that they don't mind mimicking any of the plot from the orignal trilogy.
Was interesting though when an Imperial Officer told Ren that Fin and BB8 had escaped with the help of a girl Ren choked the Officer straight away and demanded to know what girl as if he had an idea of who she was.
Also when he was duelling with her at the end he asked her to join him and he will train her in the ways of the Force and she paused for a second and it was as if her force training all started to come back to her.
I think she may of attended Lukes training school and she was hidden on Jakku after Ren turned to the Darkside and killed all the remaining Jedi.
Was interesting though when an Imperial Officer told Ren that Fin and BB8 had escaped with the help of a girl Ren choked the Officer straight away and demanded to know what girl as if he had an idea of who she was.
Also when he was duelling with her at the end he asked her to join him and he will train her in the ways of the Force and she paused for a second and it was as if her force training all started to come back to her.
I think she may of attended Lukes training school and she was hidden on Jakku after Ren turned to the Darkside and killed all the remaining Jedi.
Yeah but we don't know either of their mental state while Liia was giving birth.
Maybe she was sedated and didn't know she gave birth to a daughter.
Maybe Han wasn't present at the birth and he arrived late to be told he only had a son.
Maybe Luke hid Rey from them both as he had foreseen one of the twins turning to the Darkside but he was mistaken and hid the wrong twin.
The possibilities are endless.
Maybe she was sedated and didn't know she gave birth to a daughter.
Maybe Han wasn't present at the birth and he arrived late to be told he only had a son.
Maybe Luke hid Rey from them both as he had foreseen one of the twins turning to the Darkside but he was mistaken and hid the wrong twin.
The possibilities are endless.
So who do we think Rey really is?
Lukes daughter?
I think she may be the Kylo Rens twin sister as twins run in Luke/Leia's family.
Thats why Han took to her so quickly and even offered her a job and also why after his death Leia just walked straight past Chewie without even comforting him as him and Han were best friends and embraced Rey instead.
Obviously this is just an opinion and i could be dead wrong
Lukes daughter?
I think she may be the Kylo Rens twin sister as twins run in Luke/Leia's family.
Thats why Han took to her so quickly and even offered her a job and also why after his death Leia just walked straight past Chewie without even comforting him as him and Han were best friends and embraced Rey instead.
Obviously this is just an opinion and i could be dead wrong
I think Rey's vision plays a huge part when it comes to the plot. With somebody leaving her as a kid (which was shown in the vision) I believe that'd be Luke. Also, there's a chance that Luke trained both Rey and Ren in the academy and it was Ren who made the mess which made Luke leave. There's also a scene when Kylo enteres Rey's head and says how he sees an island and an ocean which implies that Rey was already on that island as a kid? Maybe. Too many theories and too much time till the next movie.
The strength of the movie is the new characters, Rey, Fin and Kylo Ren all really interesting characters to introduce to the world. The fact it was predictable good vs evil story rehashing the previous generations tale is not surprising (tho it was still extremely weak to redo death star plot), but it's most key to get the new characters right and then see where the journey takes them. So far so good in that imo.
You telling me the guy who has made Alias, Lost and Fringe doesn't like misdirecting and being mysterious in his work? 
Reys backstory will be in similar style of his past work, even if he doesnt have the same wtf storyline focused writers as he did in those series (he was more the idea man and producer).
Reys backstory will be in similar style of his past work, even if he doesnt have the same wtf storyline focused writers as he did in those series (he was more the idea man and producer).
Grand stories like this need your reluctant average Joe that's supposed to represent the common man like Han Solo did, to show the chosen ones and political good Vs evil machinery isn't all straight forward kinda deal. It was especially clear from escape scene he would the new Solo type figure. When it became clearer he wasn't force sensitive.