Good post, sateeh.
This board is yet to earn the trust of the fans, you're certainly right about this. But if you take a closer look why is this board being so hated by the fans you'll see that it's due to many reasons, most of them wrong :
1. They replaced the beloved Moggi (it's not their fault they replaced him but they did and that's why they are bad now. That's psychology though and i don't really blame the fans for this. I expect the similar to happen to the poor guy who'll replace Del Piero when he'll retire)
2. They sold our stars (not their fault again, they had to do it, but the guys who sold Cannavaro and Zambrotta are authomatically incapable.....at least when you look with the eyes of the Juventus fans from 2006)
3. They replaced Thuram, Cannavaro, Zlatan, Emerson, Zambrotta with Bojinov, Zanetti, Palladino, Marchionni, Boumsong (again not their fault. In the minds of Juventini it's impossible to understand how could we replace world class players with average/bad players, but somehow people forgot that we were about to play in serie B)
4. Deschamps gave his resignation (now, the fans could be right here. The board might be guilty for this and they may have been wrong. We have no idea what was happening inside the club, though.)
5. Buffon will leave Juve, he'll go to Milan. Trez will leave us and go to Monaco while Camo will leave us and go to Inter ( everyone attacks the board during the mercato. Of course, none of this happened but at the time it seemed like it could happen and the fans remember that the board is incapable, they don't think anymore of the reason that made them think that way at first place)
6. Juve buys Iaquinta (awful player and awful decission by the board - the fans say)
7. Juve didn't buy vdV, Diego and Huntelaar (how could we not buy these guys ? No other team bought them and we weren't really in position to splash +20-30m for one player, but not buying them is a good reason to hate on the board.)
8. We didn't buy Milito (at the time Milito seemed like a world class defender. Ok, maybe the board should have acted much quicker but he was really expensive and a team that just got back from serie B and that was financially inferior to all the Barcelonas, Milans, Inters and Chelseas couldn't beat them on the market)
9. We sold Balzaretti ( imo, not a wrong decission but lets say that i can accept this as a bad move by the board)
10. We're going to sell Chiellini (we didn't at the end and we decided to keep him. The situation is similar to the situation from #5)
11. Now the season started and many more reasons to hate on the board..... Why the hell did we buy Tiago, Almiron, Criscito and Andrade ? (now we're hating the board for the same reasons we praised them only few months ago)
12. Why did we sell Mutu ? ( at the time, Mutu was probably the only one no-one cared about when Juve were selling players. Now after 2 years we hate the board for selling him)
13. OMG, we're going to buy Sissoko. The shittiest player in the world. Are Secco and co amateurs ? Call back Marchisio don't buy Shitsoko.
14. The papers say we might sell Giovinco (Cobolli said numerous times how Giovinco is untouchable, but we decided to trust the newspapers. One more reason to hate the board, they want to sell Giovinco)
15. Stankovic....
You see, the fans thought the board is incapable. As time goes on the fans still think the board is incapable but they slowly forget why did they think this way at first place. They only remember that the board is incapable.
While in reality, they think this way due to many wrong reasons that seemed like right reasons at the time.
WTF is this??? Are you trying to compete with my long posts?
You dare to defend our managers, bringing up arguments? How interesting...
1)Personally, i am not psychologically attached to the old guard, not anymore, not after all it happened. But i cannot ignore the fact that they served us well,
we used to have some of the best managers in the world, we was a big club, but our fans did not provide the revenues, other fans provide, our championship that we participate, the same and our owners have lost the interest to invest.
However our books were so clear, not even the Inquisition could find anything to blame us for, we managed to cope with the wealthiest teams in the world, funded by oil barons, or even an entire state. And that was mostly because of our managers, that was the only thing that kept us up there with the best.
Any other manager wouldnt make it, just because of the seer lack of experience, infulence and managing skills.
When these guys stepped in the crisis situation to try and minimize the disaster, no one blamed them, they were supposed to be a quick fix, we were not supposed to go far with them, its like playing with Molinaro in the CB position, because everybody else is injured/suspended/trialed/crucified...
But now the crisis is over, we need to bounce back and become the team we once were and to do that and compete with the best teams in the world we need to have top quality men at every single position, our scouts, our councils, our logistic department, our trainers and their assistants, medical support, etc etc
each and every position should be filled with top notch material, because this is the only way to compete the best.
We are now back in the game with a great handicap, our team was crippled, our financial balance ruined, to compete with the other teams is even more harder than ever before. It was hard in the old times due to the lack of investment of our owners, but now this problem persist and we have a whole new set of new problems.
Our new managers, whoever they are should perform miracles to bring us back, were we started from, they should be even better than the old guard, but unfortunately, they are not even half, as the old guard were...
Every mistake our managers do now, it counts double, one it halts our progress and our effort to bounce back in the long run and two it hurt us and make us even worse than before now. Not even a standard quality manager would help us to heal our wounds and become what we were soon.
Thats why it is so important to have competent managers, we cant afford to train newbies now, we dont have the luxury of time and money to do so, we need professionals!
2) They had to sold our stars and that wasnt their fault generally, as far as i am concerned, our owners should step in and protect Juve's interest in the worst time of her history, they should provide 50-100mil more once in their life time, these money would be enough to pay all the wages and keep most of our stars, esp the young ones like Ibra and Zambro and most of the Cannavaro, Vieira like.
This move would allow us to bounce back faster than any other time.
Since they didnt want to invest and preferred to sell Juve or worse, they let our new managers no option than to sell them ASAP, again our new managers made many wrong choices, augmenting our direct opponents and selling out top quality players in very small prices, a standard quality manager would bring in more income and less casualties, ever single drop of income was vital back then and when help us to heal much faster, we lost valuable time, even if we had the chance to keep on more player like Zambro or Mutu, we would gain one more year of upgrading a starter in the long run...
3) No one asked them to replace them with world class players, while we were in serie B. But every acquisition from now on, will form the future Juve, a Juve that was supposed to participate in CL and compete for the championship.
We cant build such a strong team, as we once were in a day.
So when we buy a new player,we must be extra effective and calculate both his tactical and strategical value.
He should be good enough to help our team now and good/young enough to become a part of the backbone of the future, strong as before Juve, we should gother those pieces on by one and make some sacrifices to get them.
Again our owners draw back and they are unwilling to invest the necessary funds,
but our new managers are not even using effectively the available funds.
They released for free a bunch of players we could have used to attract some better ones with swap deals or sells at minimum fees.
They overpaid the halves of our co-owned players to get them back.
And they invested our whole transfer budget in quantity, not quality, instead of Tiago, Almiron, Criscito's half and Andrade for ex, we could have bought Sissoko from the start of the season and Milito, USING the SAME amount of MONEY.
Make no mistake, the only reason we didnt bring in Sissoko and Milito was because we refused to pay a couple of millions more.
Sissoko and Milito are quality players that would help our team now and become a part of a future Juve full of "starts".
Mellberg and Andrade will never become that part, because of their age.
Soon or later we will be forced to invest again and buy again a quick fix for those position.
Our transfer budget will not allow us a better solution and losing a part of our transfer budget to quick fixes we could anticipate is both a waste of money and a great strategical mistake, because it decimates our available funds and force us to buy cheaper players in other places we need reinforced. Buying medium quality players at every place will not allow us to have a better squad in the long run, because of the overall medium quality material!
Our decisions today affect our efforts tomorrow...
4) It was later revealed that our board didnt want DD to take more control of our transfer strategy and that was the main conflict. The choice of CR also indicates, that our board needed a man with a low salary and kind enough to praise our medium budget players... CR will back up our board's decisions whichever they are, that was made clear by the day he joined...
(HINT; look at Tiago situation)
5) These were all very probable, our managers did not act logically, neither efficient, with a little more pressure they would have done more mistakes/damage...they already have done enough to prove this!
6) It was proved to be the wrong move after all, Iaquinta wasnt decisive but he wasnt bad either, we didnt reach 3# because of him and we wouldnt lose that spot either. Buying Amauri this year already proved this was a strategical mistake. And if they sell Iaquinta, they will prove once again how incredibly incompetent they really are. We are wasting money for quick fixes instead of reallocating funds to buy better, permanent solution and most important, RELIABLE ones!
7) If we really have 200mil available for transfer in 2-3 years, as or owners declared, then we should upgrade some mediocre players, with top quality material, if we spent all these money to mediocre players, we will never become any better than the teams who usually by such players...
We need to make one step at a time, but we are keep stalling...
Some of our remaining champions are growing older, we need new high quality players, to help us, players that would make the difference when our old heroes retire! Just a couple of them ffs...
8) I ve already explained why this was both a tactical and strategical mistake, no one can actually guess the future and that would be unfair to judge by the result only. But tactically wise Milito would offer the same performances as Andrade, even if Andrade was fit, Strategically wise, Milito would serve us more years and we wouldnt have to worry investing for this place again, now we do, no matter if Andrade returns or not! And result-wise, Milito was bad but still available, while Andrade was 100% useless. No matter how you look at this case, it was a grave mistake and an unnecessary risk to invest in 2 risky players (Criscito, Andrade) instead of a permanent solution, more reliable one now!
No matter the result, their choice was wrong, but history was kind enough to prove my point is a such a blatant way!!
9) Molinaro
10) I never actually believed by the day it was confirmed, that was a disgusting thought, there is nothing to defend here, Chiellini was clearly on of our most promising material, why would we sell him, if we dont intend to become worse than we are now, both now and in the future.
11) Most certainly
Now they have even more less LAME excuses, now we expect great things from there, we are back in serie A, back in CL, big sponsorship and greater retinues than ever before, we can get almost any player we wish, there are no invisible limitations and no handicaps, but so far we saw NOTHING useful, if we dont upgrade the places we really suffer, expect an extended attack to our managers and owners from me, i ll be patience to see if they hold any surprises!
12) One of our greatest mistakes, they guy really loves Juve, even today, he begged us to keep him, he wanted to play in serie B and he was read to accept a huge pay cut, but we chose to offload him for practically nothing, i anticipated we are going to get owned with the Bojinov deal and so we did and was so painfully obvious, i cant even comprehend how noobs those guys really are, how can we, the simple fans can anticipate their mistakes, point them out, write entire pages full of arguments and they cant see them, right in front of their noise????
This is disgusting, they are supposed to be professionals ffs, this cant be happening!! And the most disgusting thing is that they dont learn form their mistakes and they keep repeat them. Just watch how much we will suffer from our defense this year, if they dont take action, OMG how can they be so BLIND???
Sometimes i tend to believe gsol, that they are doing this on purpose!!
And look what we did in the Mutu deal, we sold hom for peanuts, Fiorentina grew much stronger because of him and threaten us to the podium, we even returned them Bojinov, so they can sell him and make even more profit!
We paid Mutu salary on Bojinov anyway and then we were forced to sign Iaquinta and now Amauri, spending about 50 mil in the process for salaries and transfers, where we could only give him a couple more millions, on the black, without even increase our salary cap...
13) We should have bought Sissoko from the beginning, or even someone better, we ended up paying 50 mil for Tiago, Sissoko and Almiron, we could attract Lampard and one more world class player, like Diego with the same cash we paid for transfers and salaries!
Our main problem was in the defence, we lost about 15 points at least because of blatant defensive mistakes, this is where we should invest first. In the midfield had a few spare options, whilst in the defense absolutely NONE!!!!
14) IF it wasnt for CR we wouldnt be laughing now... If Giovinco was facing a temporary form loss and wasnt that spectacular the last days and CR wouldnt insist so much(and that was the only time he dared to insist on smth, that and Sissoko), we could really accept to do, what we were already tempted to do
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And for what to buy a 5th back up forward, when we have mediocre defenders and we cant find a decent midfielder to buy, so we can close our roster.
Amauri being our first priority and us being ready to sacrifice a future star, maybe even icon, a future starter at least and a creative midfielder for the present, the type of player we need the most atm, was again a grave mistake, thank God, it did happened as the rest, most probably because of external implication though...
15) We agree on that, but lets wait and see, if we only buy him and not any other midfielder...
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