[SPA] La Liga 2009/2010 (26 Viewers)

Oggy

and the Cockroaches
Dec 27, 2005
7,514
Alcocron doesn't need to have anything with it, Perez can walk into RM's locker room and say; "fellas, I've spent a shitload for all your paychecks and I need you to pay me back, so lets ease up in tonight's match, lose by a couple of goals". Then through some criminal racket deposits 20 million on Alcocron's win and gets 15 times the amount.

This kind of thing is probably happening all the time, just that people look the other way when big leagues are involved. Real with them team and both strikers blind folded, should have won 5-0.

But nooooo, that kind of thing is happening only on the crazy Balkans.
Spot on :tup:
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
54,023
Alcocron doesn't need to have anything with it, Perez can walk into RM's locker room and say; "fellas, I've spent a shitload for all your paychecks and I need you to pay me back, so lets ease up in tonight's match, lose by a couple of goals". Then through some criminal racket deposits 20 million on Alcocron's win and gets 15 times the amount.

This kind of thing is probably happening all the time, just that people look the other way when big leagues are involved. Real with them team and both strikers blind folded, should have won 5-0.

But nooooo, that kind of thing is happening only on the crazy Balkans.
That's exactly what I meant when I said it was fixed.
 

Yamen

Senior Member
Apr 20, 2007
11,809
no no .. thats not common sense my friend. Thats what Mafia is about :)

come think of it, it all makes sense now as the players didn't even bother to move. But some questions come to mind.

They looked upset after the game / or was it acting?
Valdano came down to trash the players during 15 min break.
some news say if they lose any of their coming games next week, Pelle is out.

Maybe all that is a cover.

Gosh.. thats just brilliant! :)
 

Red

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Moderator
Nov 26, 2006
47,024
I doubt it was fixed for one reason; the size of the winning margin.

However, I don't like to judge these things without watching the game and I am willing to bow to the Croats' superior knowledge of such dodgy dealings.
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
54,023
Yep.

I still think they did the same by loosing to Milan in the CL. Barcelona too, their last match in CL.
I wouldn't fall into that trap, Dule. Bookies have HUGE influence in football and they're certainly ruining it in some ways, but not every surprising result means it was fixed. Many times the big favorite is indeed trying to win and gives it all, but fails to do it. Imo that was the case with Barca against Rubin.

But this particular case with Real and this amateur team is not such case. Under no circumstances an 11 men Real Madrid team can lose 4:0 away to a 3rd division team unless they lost on purpose.
And i'm not talking Bwin here. I'm talking mafia and asian bookies who accept 10 million euro bets.
And most of the money here were made in live betting, I'm sure about it.

Before the start of the match, the home win was valued around 8.00 and a home win by 2 or more goals was valued 15.00. A 3 million bet on this brings you 45m euro.
Then during live betting, when Real were down by 1 and everyone was betting Real to turn it around, you keep putting money on Alcorcon to keep the win and score the next goal. In the end, with some 10m eur you can come out with a 150m eur profit.
Fron one single match, Perez will get back half of the money he invested in this team.
With one more such surprise, which probably won't happen because it will be too suspicious, or better, with 3 more smaller surprises (some 1:2 home defeat against a complete outsider in La Liga), Perez will get back all the invested money and everyone's happy. The banks, the state etc will be paid back, Perez will get money back, and even if they risk a trophyless season, they have the super strong team without losing a penny in the process.

Alcorcon didn't even know what happened. The only thing they had to do was to score to make Perez's plan work. And even if they didn't, Real were gonna score owngoals (actually, they did score one) and lose this match by 2 or more goals.
 

V

Senior Member
Jun 8, 2005
20,110
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I wouldn't fall into that trap, Dule. Bookies have HUGE influence in football and they're certainly ruining it in some ways, but not every surprising result means it was fixed. Many times the big favorite is indeed trying to win and gives it all, but fails to do it. Imo that was the case with Barca against Rubin.

But this particular case with Real and this amateur team is not such case. Under no circumstances an 11 men Real Madrid team can lose 4:0 away to a 3rd division team unless they lost on purpose.
And i'm not talking Bwin here. I'm talking mafia and asian bookies who accept 10 million euro bets.
And most of the money here were made in live betting, I'm sure about it.

Before the start of the match, the home win was valued around 8.00 and a home win by 2 or more goals was valued 15.00. A 3 million bet on this brings you 45m euro.
Then during live betting, when Real were down by 1 and everyone was betting Real to turn it around, you keep putting money on Alcorcon to keep the win and score the next goal. In the end, with some 10m eur you can come out with a 150m eur profit.
Fron one single match, Perez will get back half of the money he invested in this team.
With one more such surprise, which probably won't happen because it will be too suspicious, or better, with 3 more smaller surprises (some 1:2 home defeat against a complete outsider in La Liga), Perez will get back all the invested money and everyone's happy. The banks, the state etc will be paid back, Perez will get money back, and even if they risk a trophyless season, they have the super strong team without losing a penny in the process.

Alcorcon didn't even know what happened. The only thing they had to do was to score to make Perez's plan work. And even if they didn't, Real were gonna score owngoals (actually, they did score one) and lose this match by 2 or more goals.
I agree, the Rubin game was a genuine surprise. Barca was just too unlucky in that game. Besides, I doubt CL games would be thrown so early in the group stages, especially when you didn't secure qualification.

This game however, is too shady, especially when you look at the players Real fielded. There's not a doubt in my mind underground betting was involved.
 

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