[SPA] La Liga 2009/2010 (25 Viewers)

[king Ale]

Zlatan is the main reason for Barca not playing like their usual self and I love it

Mr. one goal in every match

 

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[Alen]

Zlatan is the main reason for Barca not playing like their usual self and I love it

You might be right. Can't argue the facts. He might be great but he's preventing Barca from giving their best.
Kinda like the situation in Juventus.

 

[Bjerknes]

Puyol showed tonight what a joke defender he is. Nothing gets me laugthing more than Ibrahimovic though what a joke.

Terry is a bigger choker and Puyol is better than any defender we have.

 

[ReMad]

Real Madrid vs Sevilla

LA Liga 2009-2010 Day 25
Saturday March 6, 2010 21 GMT
Bernabéu


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Goals


First Goal for Sevilla by Alonso (O.G) 10
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Second Goal for Sevilla by Dragutinovic from a Free Kick 53
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First Goal for Real Madrid by Ronaldo 60
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Second Goal for Real Madrid by Ramos 64
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Third Goal for Real Madrid by Van Der Vaart 93
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Extras


Two Shots by Higuain off the Post 69 & 73
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Danger Shot by Higuain over the Goal 77
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Highlights



First Half Highlights : Real Madrid 0-1 Sevilla
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Second Half Highlights : Real Madrid 3-2 Sevilla
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[king Ale]

Chiellini is a better defender.

 

[Nicholas]

Terry is a bigger choker and Puyol is better than any defender we have.

Nor did I state otherwise. Puyol is not as good as Chiellini.

 

[king Ale]

Nor did I state otherwise. Puyol is not as good as Chiellini.

But just because you're English, he had to bring Terry to this

 

[Nicholas]

But just because you're English, he had to bring Terry to this

I don't really mind, Andy is Andy I've grown to his hatred towards our nations football.

 

[king Ale]

Almost everyone here hates your national team. I don't, because of Capello

 

[Nicholas]

Almost everyone here hates your national team. I don't, because of Capello

I can understand to a certain extent due to the hype the Premiership gets and also our National Side, I would rather the press keep their gobs shut and let the National Side do the talking on the pitch instead of reminding us about 1966

 

[Osman]

Indeed it was never a red card. Ironically they played better without him though.

They? You mean:

 

[Nicholas]

They? You mean:

I think he's looking increasingly frustrated with Ibrahimovic.

 

[Bjerknes]

Nor did I state otherwise. Puyol is not as good as Chiellini.

Puyol is definitely better, certainly throughout the years. Perhaps Chiellini will be better in his prime but right now he acts like a bonehead at times.

 

[Nicholas]

Puyol is definitely better, certainly throughout the years. Perhaps Chiellini will be better in his prime but right now he acts like a bonehead at times.

I think over the past two seasons Chiellini has shown to be the better player however thats my personal opinion. I think Puyol missed Pique tonight.

 

[Alen]

I think over the past two seasons Chiellini has shown to be the better player however thats my personal opinion. I think Puyol missed Pique tonight.

Until he learns to play the ball on the ground, Chiellini will never be a better player than Puyol. Chiellini is a beast, but the handicap he has will often cost his team. Maybe a great and calm player next to him will get the best out of Giorgio.

I never rated Puyol to be among the best, though. Never liked him. Perhaps I'm still under impression of those youth days of his, in a much weaker Barcelona, when he was even a laughing stock at certain points.

 

[Nicholas]

Until he learns to play the ball on the ground, Chiellini will never be a better player than Puyol. Chiellini is a beast, but the handicap he has will often cost his team. Maybe a great and calm player next to him will get the best out of Giorgio.

I never rated Puyol to be among the best, though. Never liked him. Perhaps I'm still under impression of those youth days of his, in a much weaker Barcelona, when he was even a laughing stock at certain points.

Even though Chiellini is a lamer at passing the ball it still does not take away the fact that what a defender has to do and thats defend. He reads the game better than Puyol, can handle pace alot more and even though reckless at times still the better tackler. Passing from the back aside Chiellini is the overall better player. I do agree with you that we need a calming prescence next to him.

 

[Alen]

Even though Chiellini is a lamer at passing the ball it still does not take away the fact that what a defender has to do and thats defend. He reads the game better than Puyol, can handle pace alot more and even though reckless at times still the better tackler. Passing from the back aside Chiellini is the overall better player. I do agree with you that we need a calming prescence next to him.

We painfully do.

Giorgio is the kind of defender who was probably taught that the most important thing is to keep the ball away from the box and how gifting the opponent a corner kick, foul, throw in etc is well worthy if it means that the ball isn't in the danger area. And that's cool, but I hate it that he never considers other options. He can keep the ball away from the opponents if he tries to hold it a little more or pass it to the Juve player close to him. He never does that. I hate it, hate it, hate it. Small team defenders are doing that. Rarely big team defenders do that. They do it only when there is absolutely no other option. Giorgio is doing it all the fucking time.
That's how we conceded Miccoli's goal last week and that's how we conceded more times in the past too.

He's a fucking brilliant defender. Strong, fast, reads the game well, as you said. He has all the conditions to become the world's best, but he'll never be that until he fixes that problem.

 

[Bjerknes]

Puyol has hardly been a laughable stock over the years. He's been consistently one of Europe's best centerbacks for quite a long time, certainly one of the top ten for a long while. Some seasons I'd say he was the best.

For Spain everyone was doubting their defense in 2008 and it turned out to be one of the better ones of the Euros.

 

[Nicholas]

We painfully do.

Giorgio is the kind of defender who was probably taught that the most important thing is to keep the ball away from the box and how gifting the opponent a corner kick, foul, throw in etc is well worthy if it means that the ball isn't in the danger area. And that's cool, but I hate it that he never considers other options. He can keep the ball away from the opponents if he tries to hold it a little more or pass it to the Juve player close to him. He never does that. I hate it, hate it, hate it. Small team defenders are doing that. Rarely big team defenders do that. They do it only when there is absolutely no other option. Giorgio is doing it all the fucking time.
That's how we conceded Miccoli's goal last week and that's how we conceded more times in the past too.

He's a fucking brilliant defender. Strong, fast, reads the game well, as you said. He has all the conditions to become the world's best, but he'll never be that until he fixes that problem.

Like you said it is painfully annoying at times and in fact arguably puts us under more pressure. I don't think Chiellini will change thats why it's imperative to get a Rannochia,Kjaer or even Bonucci next to him. Players who are calm on the ball and Chiellini can play a 2/3 feet pass to and let them pass it out. It certainly is one trait that I tend to look over with Chiellini due to how good of a defender he is.

 

[Bjerknes]

Even though Chiellini is a lamer at passing the ball it still does not take away the fact that what a defender has to do and thats defend. He reads the game better than Puyol, can handle pace alot more and even though reckless at times still the better tackler. Passing from the back aside Chiellini is the overall better player. I do agree with you that we need a calming prescence next to him.

He is not a better tackler than Puyol. He might mark slightly better but tackling... absolutely not.

Puyol is a beast of a player.