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How many Goals will Zaza score this season?

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Apr 19, 2007
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I agree that we dont need anything except to start to look to replace a few aging players. Honestly a Licht heir is the only glaring need I think we have come summer mercato. The rest is just building a more competitive squad and looking at what Max wants
 

duranfj

Senior Member
Jul 30, 2015
8,765
We dont absolutely need anything. We have a very competitive and deep squad.

For the sake of tactical versatility, a quality AM would offcourse be very interestng, but we dont need it, we want it.
Imo we aren't gonna be able to success in europe with this formation... Our last two games are exposed how difficult is for us to create opportunities and how much we depend on Dybala. For big clubs is gonna be easy to close our game
 

Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
38,710
We dont absolutely need anything. We have a very competitive and deep squad.

For the sake of tactical versatility, a quality AM would offcourse be very interestng, but we dont need it, we want it.
The problem is we struggle to create with 352. For some reason, our goals flow better in 4312
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
The problem is we struggle to create with 352. For some reason, our goals flow better in 4312
We absolutely dont struggle to create, in fact our main issue was the draught of Morata and return to fit of Mandzukic. We are creating ALOT of chances.


You are saying this because of the Roma game, in wich Roma decided to bunker up, and we decided to not take too much risks and didnt had Alex Sandro on the field. It had nothing to do with formation.
 

dolph

Senior Member
Mar 30, 2006
2,599
We absolutely dont struggle to create, in fact our main issue was the draught of Morata and return to fit of Mandzukic. We are creating ALOT of chances.


You are saying this because of the Roma game, in wich Roma decided to bunker up, and we decided to not take too much risks and didnt had Alex Sandro on the field. It had nothing to do with formation.
We have trouble creating, when decent teams bunker up. The Roma game is an example, so are the Merda game and the game against BM at home in the CL. We only have one creative outlet on the field so offcourse we are going to have trouble creating when we face a team who knows how to defend.
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
So against teams that bunker up to keep the spaces small, you want us to use a narrow formation with a TQ ? :D


You want width. A 3-5-2 has that trough the fullbacks. Alex Sandro + Morata or Mandzukic in proper form would have made short work of that.

Our 3-5-2 is highly succesfull against bunkering.


The 4312 is highly succesfull to counterattack. But against roma, we scored on our only counter



Our formation is not the issue.
 

dolph

Senior Member
Mar 30, 2006
2,599
So against teams that bunker up to keep the spaces small, you want us to use a narrow formation with a TQ ? :D


You want width. A 3-5-2 has that trough the fullbacks. Alex Sandro + Morata or Mandzukic in proper form would have made short work of that.

Our 3-5-2 is highly succesfull against bunkering.


The 4312 is highly succesfull to counterattack. But against roma, we scored on our only counter



Our formation is not the issue.
A narrow formation? Its not like the AM just stands in the middle of the pitch waiting for the ball. When Pereyra playes the AM he drifts wide to either side, which help to create numerical advantages with a AM, FB, CM and SS able to connect. So you mean to tell me that a 3-5-2 where you basically exchange an AM with a CB is more creative than a 4-3-1-2? The 3-5-2 might be effective because we almost never consive chances, and because the quality of the players we have on the field is much better than our opponents in Seria A, which leads us to create 3-5 good chances every game. The 3-5-2 is better when defending a result or trying to grind out results as we did under Conte in 3 and in the last 11 games under Allegri, but the 4-3-1-2 is going to create more chances, whether its against teams who park the bus or in a more open game, mainly because of the personel you have on the field.
 

Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
22,601
4-3-1-2 was effective last year in Europe. Unfortunately Pereyra has been injured and he's the only player able to play as AM, competently. I was hoping he'd recover sooner so that we can gradually revert to this system. With 3-5-2 there's always danger that Bayern's wingers would pin our WBs and that we won't be able to hold possession. Last year against every big opposition we started with 4-3-1-2, even Conte as stubborn as he was realized that 3-5-2 against Real won't cut it.

I really wouldn't be against this midfield against Bayern, if Pereyra doesn't recover:

----------Marchisio
Khedira -- -------- Asamoah
------------Pogba
 

Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
38,710
Yep. And you forgot to mention that when we are forced to take the game to our opponents in a 352, or even worst, forced to get a goal... since we have few creative sources, we tend to try to compensate that attacking in numbers, and our 3 defenders get exposed.

In serie A is not that dangerous, but against speedy teams with lethal attackers in the cl is tricky
 

rndmlgnd

Senior Member
Oct 29, 2015
694
Zaza didn't actually hurt the guy, but it was a very dangerous tackle. Kinda like when you get a yellow card for lifting your leg too high.

I love the guy but you can't do this kind of shit. Not at Juve, man. I hope he learns a lesson from this.
 

Boksic

Senior Member
May 11, 2005
13,370
The red has been coming for a long time. Hopefully he learns his lesson, the aggression is good but there is no need for the stupid tackles, he did another one earlier in the game too.
 
Jun 6, 2015
11,387
He is a liability with his tackling. Thankfully we didn't need to play that long shorthanded this time but what about the next time when he decides to go crazy when there's more time on the clock.
 

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