Signed. Failed. Left. (2 Viewers)

Suns

Release clause?
May 22, 2009
22,086
#1
So, I've been looking to all the transfers Secco has made and seen how many have failed and left the club.

2006/2007
Belardi
Boumsong
Bojinov

2007/2008
Andrade
Stendardo
Criscito
Molinaro
Nocerino
Tiago(on his way)
Almiron
Van Strattan

2008/2009
Mellberg
Ekdal
Knezevic
Iago Falque

Secco has been in control of the signings of this team for only 3 Summer Mercato's and he has already had 15 players that has come here, failed miserably and left the club again in only 3 years. Now thats 15 bad investments. He has been so inefficient its beyond crazy.

Looking at that list I just wonder, is this some kind of joke or is this guy for real? Molinaro? Knezevic? Boumsong!!?

And thinking about it, since he joined us he has only made one noticeable signing that actually made us better and thats Sissoko.

From this years mercato we all know that players like Cannavaro, Grosso and Caceres will be added to that list pretty soon.

The saddest thing about all of this is that we're still mainly living on the signings that Moggi did.
 

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only-juve

Senior Member
Jan 5, 2008
7,451
#4
Don't get me started with this guy :p

Anyways the problem with secco is much bigger than just the choices that he makes. He's negotiation skills is pretty horrible and soo many other things that i could write a whole page on.

Personaly i'm looking forward for the day that he leaves this club more than anyone else on this forum.....
 

Albertmare

Idea Maker
Mar 24, 2006
13,949
#6
Agreed .
Stendardo did pretty good on his loan spell , the same goes to Mellberg.
Iago and Ekdal on the other hand just haven't proved anything , they have a potential to rise IMO.
 

Sadomin

Senior Member
Apr 5, 2005
7,327
#7
Molinaro was a Moggi purchase.
Boumsong was bought in Serie B and is now apparently a regular for Lyon.
Ekdal and Iago can hardly be branded as failures.
Stendardo was a loan and he did what was expected of him.
Mellberg was a free transfer and also did what he was supposed to do.

Iaquinta has also been a good purchase.

But yes, Suns, you're not saying anything that hasn't been said millions of times before.
 

Naggar

Bianconero
Sep 4, 2007
3,494
#9
No one said anything about Criscito?
loaning and co-owning him is a crime, specially with being in need of a LB and a LM sometimes

Melo might become on the list as well, and many of these succeeded after leaving the club, makes you ask yourself is it them or Juve
Even Tiago was great before Juventus
I think we're so used on the typical 442 with Nedved DP and Camo that we forgot how to get the best of other players
 

Naggar

Bianconero
Sep 4, 2007
3,494
#10
and also, here's a piece of crap called Stankovic, 4 years ago Tiago, Poulsen and Zanetti were way way better than him, and it hurts me to see the good performances he gave on 2009
 
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Suns

Suns

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May 22, 2009
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    Molinaro was a Moggi purchase.
    Yet Secco decided to bring him back and made him a part of Juventus.

    Boumsong was bought in Serie B and is now apparently a regular for Lyon.
    He was still bad and not good enough to stay in the team. And then seriously, Boumsong, PL's biggest joke?

    Ekdal and Iago can hardly be branded as failures.
    Sure, I'm probably harsh on these youngsters but one of them is in Bari's primavera and the other I've seen in the Swedish Allsvenskan and if he really ends up making it in our team then he's improved a lot during his time in Italy.

    Stendardo was a loan and he did what was expected of him.
    Not good enough, bad investment.

    Mellberg was a free transfer and also did what he was supposed to do.
    I love Mellberg but he didn't have anything to do at this club and as a result of that he left after only 1 year.

    Iaquinta has also been a good purchase.
    Sure, Vinny is good but he hasn't really made the team better and tbh he's been considered 4th choice during all these years.
     

    Stephan

    Senior Member
    Nov 9, 2005
    16,642
    #13
    Suns, when did you start following Juventus?

    Granted, Secco has done some bad signings, one cant ignore calciopoli affect, the fact that we actually managed to keep some of our top players like Buffon & Camo when dropping to B.
    There was no way Juventus was going to sign top quality players in 2006/2007. You think top players would come and play in Serie B?

    Oh and we actually got Zanetti when went to B, a player who was probably one of the best signings.

    2007/2008 was in many ways the first BIG year for Secco, back in serie a.
    Andrade was supposed to be the CD at the back, and he was a player with good reputation, he did have a bad injury history though but many folks where optimistic. Stendardo was brought in later because of Andrade injury problem and at the time Chiellini was injured for 1 month (we brought Stendardo in January). We desperately needed CD cover.

    Tiago&Almiron were supposed to be the big signings of the summer, 99% of the members here where happy about this signings, no one really thought they would flop so badly. And who really could. Tiago was good at Lyon, and Almiron was apparently one of the best midfielders in serie A according to stats.

    People were also quite optimistic about Criscito and Nocerino, praising them as the new generation who most expected to become good here. aka long term material etc etc.

    Its easy to point at these things NOW though.

    Oh and Molinaro was signed in 2005 but co-ownership deal was made with Siena.
    Secco brought Molinaro back in the hope of getting a cheap but good option.

    We had big money problems btw, no CL money, no serie A money. Secco had no other option than to bring in players like Boumsong. The top players who stayed (Buffon, Camo, Nedved) had to take a pay-cut also.

    Mellberg wasnt a bad signing.
     

    Ledje

    Senior Member
    Sep 1, 2006
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    #14
    Also 90% was screaming for Diego, and he signed him, if you want to discuss be realistic and show the negative points, but also the positive ..

    I'm not defending Secco, he isn't good enough for us as sports director
     

    j0ker

    Capo di tutti capi
    Jan 5, 2006
    22,892
    #15
    How can you consider a player on loan a flop? That's why he is on loan to be tried and sent back eventually. Why Mellberg failed? Did you [FONT=Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]expect from him to be Chiellini? Plus that we have paid nothing for him and sold for 2.5mln. And do you even consider that we probably didn't have money to get better players?

    A flop at least for me can be considered a player who has been solid in other teams and does nothing now.

    Everyone agrees that Secco should have done much better but definitely does not deserve all this bashing towards him. Image how much Moggi payed for Di Vaio, Zalayeta, Salas and others :sergio:
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    Juventino[RUS]

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    Mar 9, 2006
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    #17
    How can you consider a player on loan a flop? That's why he is on loan to be tried and sent back eventually. Why Mellberg failed? Did you [FONT=Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]expect from him to be Chiellini? Plus that we have paid nothing for him and sold for 2.5mln. And do you even consider that we probably didn't have money to get better players?

    A flop at least for me can be considered a player who has been solid in other teams and does nothing now.

    Everyone agrees that Secco should have done much better but definitely does not deserve all this bashing towards him. Image how much Moggi payed for Di Vaio, Zalayeta, Salas and others :sergio:
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    + Gladstone, Athirson, Paulo Sousa, Dimas, Padavano, -_- + Perrotta was our player 10 years ago but we lost him -_-
     

    only-juve

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    Jan 5, 2008
    7,451
    #18
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    Everyone agrees that Secco should have done much better but definitely does not deserve all this bashing towards him. Image how much Moggi payed for Di Vaio, Zalayeta, Salas and others :sergio:
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    Yeah but he got us Zidane for almost nothing (5-6 mil) and we sold the guy for a world record 67 million. He got us nedved (and within a year he turned to a European Footballer of the Year) he got us Cannavaro by giving merda Carrini and the guy turned to be the best defender in the world, Buffon, Thuram, Davids and the list goes on and on...

    You can call Moggi a cheat or whatever but when it comes to signing players (he was the best period). Even Zalayeta that you don't like scored our winning goal against Barca in the CL (that goal alone deserve twice what we paid for him).
     

    Juventino[RUS]

    Senior Member
    Mar 9, 2006
    29,039
    #19
    So, I've been looking to all the transfers Secco has made and seen how many have failed and left the club.

    2006/2007
    Belardi
    Boumsong
    Bojinov

    2007/2008
    Andrade
    Stendardo
    Criscito
    Molinaro
    Nocerino
    Tiago(on his way)
    Almiron
    Van Strattan

    2008/2009
    Mellberg
    Ekdal
    Knezevic
    Iago Falque
    i think u must post full list of Juve flops in last decade
    u said about Secco era and this is Moggi era:
    2005/2006

    Giannicheda, Balzaretti

    2004/2005

    Kapo, Brighi

    2003/2004

    Olivera, Appiah, Legrottaglie

    2002/2003

    Di Vaio

    2001/2002

    Miccoli, Salas

    2000/2001

    Nobody

    1999/2000

    Kovacevic, Oliseh

    :shifty:
    As u can see, almost every season Moggi made flop transfer!and he spend much more than Secco on his flops! Salas 22.250.000£ + Kovacevic 15.000.000£ + Di Vaio 23.140.000£ = 60.390.000£!!!!damn!! :shifty:
     

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