[Serie A] Roma vs JUVENTUS (12th Dec. 2011) (15 Viewers)

[Quetzalcoatl]

Why don't you count these teams' best midfielders?

Nani, Young, Hamsik, Ozil, Boateng, Sneijder, Silva, Nasri, etc.

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[ALC]

City definitely has a better mid, but I assume you're only taking under consideration central midfielders. Then yeah, we've got a great midfield. No great attacking mids or wingers however.

 

[Nicholas]

Nani plays on the wing, Hamsik plays as a front three, Silva plays as a front three, Nasri plays as a front three, Boateng plays as a front three, Ozil plays as a front three, Young plays on the wing.

Most of those are attacking players, all play ahead of the midfield.

 

[Nicholas]

City definitely has a better mid, but I assume you're only taking under consideration central midfielders. Then yeah, we've got a great midfield. No great attacking mids or wingers however.

Yes.

In a 4-3-3 formation, our central midfield is amongst the best in Europe.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

I think they mostly do their work in midfield. And wingers count as mids in a 4-4-2

 

[Nicholas]

Are they central midfielder's?

When I made my claim, I did specify the second best central midfielder's in Europe.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Oh you said CMs? My bad.

 

[Nicholas]

Anyway's let's leave this argument alone till season end.

I read Quag came out due to cramp against Bologna so he could start against Roma :xfinger:

 

[ALC]

He didn't really say it, he implied it.

 

[Linebreak]

Let's send Roma back to their BC days

 

[king Ale]

Look around Europe:

Manchester United - Carrick and Fletcher

Chelsea - Lampard, Ramires and Mikel

City - De Jong, Barry and Yaya

Arsenal - Song, Wilshire and Arteta

Not one of those teams has a better midfield than us.

Spain:

Real Madrid: Alonso, Kheideira/Diarra

Barcelona: Xavi,Fabregas and Iniesta

Forget the others neither are anywhere close, only Barcelona above have a better midfield trio.

Italy:

Napoli: Gargano, Inler, Dzemaili

Inter: Motta, Cambiasso, Alvarez

AC: Noccerino, Aquilani, Seedorf/Gattuso

You can only make a case for Napoli's midfield, everyone else on paper has not got a midfield that's anywhere near us.

I highlighted that I said on paper, granted footballs not played on paper but at the moment it's hard to deny we've got one of the best performing midfields in Europe.

To compare any pair, you need to first determine what parameter you are to compare, then you have to fix all other variables or else you would get it all wrong, like you did with this post.

We use a three man midfield because that's a system which suits our midfielders best so we may be having the best three man midfield among the teams who use three man midfield systems but there are no grounds to claim that we have a better midfield than Real or Manchester teams. According to you Pirlo - Marchisio - Vidal trio is better than Khedira - Xabi but you forget that our trio has to both defend and create while Khedira/Lass - Xabi due has mainly defensive duties while the creativity comes from Ozil/Di Maria/Kaka who you so conveniently refuse to consider.

 

[ALC]

I love the way you stated that, Hoori.

 

[JCK]

Im cheering for real with a passion in that game. I want to see the barca bitches cry. That'll keep me satisfied until we play them next year in the CHL and woop their asses

Nah mate, I do despise barca a lot but I would never cheer for any team playing against them except of course Juve. Contrary to popular belief since I dislike barca so much it is believed I have feelings towards their rivals where in fact, I don't give a rat's ass if someone beats them or not. Their existence should be terminated and that's about it.

 

[Albo]

JCK who do u hate more Barca or Inter ?!

 

[Nicholas]

To compare any pair, you need to first determine what parameter you are to compare, then you have to fix all other variables or else you would get it all wrong, like you did with this post.

We use a three man midfield because that's a system which suits our midfielders best so we may be having the best three man midfield among the teams who use three man midfield systems but there are no grounds to claim that we have a better midfield than Real or Manchester teams. According to you Pirlo - Marchisio - Vidal trio is better than Khedira - Xabi but you forget that our trio has to both defend and create while Khedira/Lass - Xabi due has mainly defensive duties while the creativity comes from Ozil/Di Maria/Kaka who you so conveniently refuse to consider.

City and Real both use 3 man midfield's no?

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

Don't city use a two man midfield? Toure and Barry/De Jong?

 

[king Ale]

City and Real both use 3 man midfield's no?

No? No. Real play 4-2-3-1, you can't compare our three man midfield with their two defensive midfielders and conclude that we have a better midfield.

 

[Linebreak]

No? No. Real play 4-2-3-1, you can't compare our three man midfield with their two defensive midfielders and conclude that we have a better midfield.

Juventus is better than anyone simply because they wear the Juve jersey. That settles it

 

[Albo]

Juventus is better than anyone simply because they wear the Juve jersey. That settles it

This

+rep.

 

[jussr]

This Juventus has one big advantage. Superb midfield. Games are won there. Our midfield is easily good enough for a Champions league win. What we now need is a world class defense and a star in attack (+depth of course).


Hummels + Tevez. And baring no injuries (highly unlikely) CL win is not something impossible.