[Serie A] Milan-Juventus (1 Viewer)

Hambon

Lion of the Desert
Apr 22, 2005
8,073
++ [ originally posted by Blind ] ++


The sad thing is that we are the number one team that lost to the second best team.
So would that make us 2nd best and them the best?
Well if u look at the numbers for this year and the past they are not even on our level.....we will allways be numero uno...
 

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HelterSkelter

Senior Member
Apr 15, 2005
20,288
exactly why is zlatan or any other player being bashed?

did they spit at the fans?
did they spit on the juventus logo?
did they wag their middle fingers to ther own fans?
did they burn their shirts because they were not proud of the colours that they wore?
were YOU people on the field?
do YOU fvckin know wts it like playing infronta huge crowds day in day out?
are our player robots?should they kick ass everytime they step on the field?

did they not try tonight?
you bet your ass they did.if they didnt,they wouldnt be juventus players.

things just didnt click.

they're OUR players.anyoen who has a problem with them underperfoming once in a blue moon should fvck off and support another team.
 

Tifoso

Sempre e solo Juve
Aug 12, 2005
5,162
++ [ originally posted by Altair ] ++
My ratings

Chimenti (-2) if anyone knows a hitman in italy please pm me

Cannavaro (5) no pace left too many sapces open

Thuram (5) made some mistakes but also brought some poise to the defense

Pessoto (4) doesnt bring anything to the team might as well be at 10 players

zambrotta (6.5) by far our best player showed grinta and determination when everyone else was nappin

Emerson (5) on winter hibernation, come back in spring

Viera (5.5) better than Emerson, but was outnumbered in midfield

Camo (4.5) bad bad game for camo, lost too many balls and had no presence

Nedved (4) what can i say, thanks and good bye pavel

Trez (6.5) ran a lot for his standards, and scored a sgnature goal

Zlatan (4) didnt do one thing right tonight

Subs

Chiellini (5.5) secured his postion pretty well and didnt show any fear and slapped Inzaghi :)

Mutu n.r

Del Piero (6) played real solid didnt lose the ball and brought some danger to the milan back 4


I can't disagree
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
114,927
This match was the most difficult test of the season, and we failed yet again. After the first big test in the Champions League in which he played miserably against Bayern, people stated "Oh don't look too much into this performance, we will be ready next time." Well today was the next time and we played even worse...being absolutely played off the the park by Milan in the most pathetic performance since the Liverpool ties last season. You hear that everybody??? That is the sound of the football world laughing at us and the notions of "Juventus are the best team in the world, they are unbeatable." Christ, we played like shit against two of the best teams in the world in consecutive affairs...what does that tell ya?

We stepped out on to the pitch tonight without any idea what to do, no specific plan in place besides just chug along as usual, and no direction despite some spirit shown by a few of our players. We played EXACTLY like we did against Sampdoria on Wednesday...well guess what folks we played like shite on Wednesday and if you expected the same crap to work today you must have lost your lunch. This is case and point why it does not pay in the long run to play at minimum capacity every match against inferior opposition...when the bigger match comes around and we need to elevate our performance, we are not able to do so. It's as simple as that, just like the notion of "if you practice like shite, you play like shite." I do not think I would be very far off to say each match against inferior opposition is sort of a training ground for the better teams in this world...not to mention that is where you start to get the team clicking with each other for the bigger matches. But no, we have to play the same way every match...makes a whole lot of sense to me.

And what is up with these coaching decisions? Capello, what the hell were you thinking taking off Camoranesi, perhaps our greatest attacking threat in the first half, just like you did against Bayern, at halftime? Why not take off Pavel Nedved who was terrible tonight and just as bad in almost every match thus far this season? Why keep Ibrahimovic on the pitch when all he ever does is try to beat defenders one v one and give the ball away more than doing something useful with it? Why did it take so long for Del Piero to come on the pitch in the second half...hell, why didn't Alex or Mutu start, like one of them probably should have? Not to mention the lack of direction and wherewithall on the pitch by the team as a whole...did we even have a plan, Capello? We just let Pirlo have all the time in the world to use his skill and let Kaka have his way with the ball every time he recieved it...what a gameplan. Crapello let us down this time, no question.

Passing through midfield was absolutely etrocious, our left side of the pitch was about as weak as Empoli's, and our forwards gave the ball away too much instead of just making the simple pass...you lot know who is to blame here. It just boggles my mind because you could see a performance like this coming from a mile away when you watch this team every week. This is why people such as Vinni and I are always digging deep into the performance itself, not the scoreline. The scoreline doesn't always tell the truth, just like some supposed glorious yet worthless record that we praise Capello for like we just won the Scudetto all over again. And you have to hand it to Milan because they actually learned from their mistakes last season and earlier this year and totally owned us this match. What an embarrassing performance and crap such as this can't give you a good feeling about our main hopes for this season...the Champions League.

But hopefully this performance is a wake-up call to Capello...that the good old Fabio mentality needs to be taken out back and shot and that he cannot just follow his old "tried and true" methods anymore. First of all he should just play the players who deserve to play first...even that would be a nice change from this current nonsense.

I won't even go in-depth to player performances because nobody played well, and its pointless to discuss when our manager does not even field the players who deserve to be out there from the start.

Ibrahimovic tried to show off his skill against the likes of Nesta and Stam...result? Gave the ball away almost every time he recieved it. At this pace he will be back at Ajax in no time even when the bench is sufficient.

Nedved tried hard however his touches are still off and there is no reason for him to be on the pitch with his form at the moment. In some ways he just brings us down rather than lifting us up, which is sad indeed.

Defense did not play very well and the Vieira-Emerson duo failed us for the first time this season...Pirlo and Kaka basically had their way in midfield, which is the number one NO-NO against Milan.

Now we face Bayern on Tuesday I think and God knows what sort of performance is awaiting us at the Delle Alpi.


Andy
 

Zé Tahir

JhoolayLaaaal!
Moderator
Dec 10, 2004
29,281
++ [ originally posted by axlrose85 ] ++
exactly why is zlatan or any other player being bashed?

did they spit at the fans?
did they spit on the juventus logo?
did they wag their middle fingers to ther own fans?
did they burn their shirts because they were not proud of the colours that they wore?
were YOU people on the field?
do YOU fvckin know wts it like playing infronta huge crowds day in day out?
are our player robots?should they kick ass everytime they step on the field?

did they not try tonight?
you bet your ass they did.if they didnt,they wouldnt be juventus players.

things just didnt click.

they're OUR players.anyoen who has a problem with them underperfoming once in a blue moon should fvck off and support another team.
That's what I'm talking about!!!
 

Menace

Senior Member
Apr 22, 2005
3,988
++ [ originally posted by Dominic ] ++
This is so cruel. All this writing effort for nothing.
I am sure it was great, oh well what goes around comes around, don't worry :D

++ [ originally posted by Rami ] ++


Yet you hate your national team :groan:
No I don't, I was only kidding, I just don't care
 

Dominic

Senior Member
Jan 30, 2004
16,698
++ [ originally posted by Ramin ] ++


Not really. Thuram and Emerson were playing good. Emerson was the only one in midfield trying to do something. Vieira was a joke, Camo was invinsible (new Trez), and Nedved was ok.

NEDVED WAS OK ? NEDVED OK ?! Are you kidding me? Not counting Zlatan, he was our worst player. Not counting Zlatan, Nedved has been our worst player so far this season!
 

Blind

Junior Member
May 8, 2005
149
++ [ originally posted by axlrose85 ] ++

do YOU fvckin know wts it like playing infronta huge crowds day in day out?
are our player robots?should they kick ass everytime they step on the field?
Hmm...I wonder why they get those millions of dollars?....Hmm is because for that very reason you stated at the top???
 

Zé Tahir

JhoolayLaaaal!
Moderator
Dec 10, 2004
29,281
++ [ originally posted by Menace ] ++


I am sure it was great, oh well what goes around comes around, don't worry :D



No I don't, I was only kidding, I just don't care
Menace, kindly explain what you do care about? You're a puzzle TBH. You don't take football/ Juventus seriously, you don't care about your own NT. What do you care about exactly? You're a menace to yourself.
 

Bozi

The Bozman
Administrator
Oct 18, 2005
22,740
++ [ originally posted by Operaio ] ++
Let's bash Del Piero.

He wasn't great in sitting on the bench TBH. I mean, he came on after 70 fvcking minutes. What kind of bench performance is that? He couldn't even last an entire game.

Oh wait.
ha ha ha :rofl::fool:dont worry capello will have him riding pine all season and keep playing that greedy idot zlatan:moan:
 

denco

Superior Being
Jul 12, 2002
4,679
++ [ originally posted by axlrose85 ] ++
exactly why is zlatan or any other player being bashed?

did they spit at the fans?
did they spit on the juventus logo?
did they wag their middle fingers to ther own fans?
did they burn their shirts because they were not proud of the colours that they wore?
were YOU people on the field?
do YOU fvckin know wts it like playing infronta huge crowds day in day out?
are our player robots?should they kick ass everytime they step on the field?

did they not try tonight?
you bet your ass they did.if they didnt,they wouldnt be juventus players.

things just didnt click.

they're OUR players.anyoen who has a problem with them underperfoming once in a blue moon should fvck off and support another team.
What a completely irrelevant post, i am sure you were going for nobility but all you achieved is banality.Wha has what you just said got to do with world cup winners, players hwo have played the world over and over again, best stadia, biggest crowds etc.
 

Hambon

Lion of the Desert
Apr 22, 2005
8,073
++ [ originally posted by Blind ] ++


Hmm...I wonder why they get those millions of dollars?....Hmm is because for that very reason you stated at the top???
even with those millions its a tough ass job....you got to be on your game day in day out which is basicly impossible for anyone...you gots to give them props they are all brilliant footballaz...
 

loyada

Senior Member
Feb 6, 2005
1,518
juve is a long distance runner , can't change the rhythm but after a long run (serie A) always win but have difficulty a short distance (cup mathes or big matches except against REAL)
 

GordoDeCentral

Diez
Moderator
Apr 14, 2005
70,493
++ [ originally posted by Cronios ] ++


i agreed in most of ur views,
but do u really believe it was Milan who beats us?
i mean they had a good play today?
gattuso was ok maybe MOM but what did pirlo,kaka and the rest?
did they created smth?
their super attackers Gila,Vieri,super Pippo got served and sucked then?
i saw Milan last game and i believe they didnt play good today,
neither that it was our worst game,
i believe if they hadnt the luck to score the first goal and they they did
and we were scoring first then we would have seen what Milan can do,
i believe it was an easy win for them and they can play much much better:down:
If you're saying that A.C is overrated yes I agree... But their Mid was superb was superb today..i mean just look at the scoring sheet... Seedorf is MOM for me with gattuso in close second, kaka gave a lot of trouble to our D. What id ont understand is why Ancellotti took out pippo for vieri when they were counterring ????
 

Tifoso

Sempre e solo Juve
Aug 12, 2005
5,162
++ [ originally posted by Dominic ] ++



NEDVED WAS OK ? NEDVED OK ?! Are you kidding me? Not counting Zlatan, he was our worst player. Not counting Zlatan, Nedved has been our worst player so far this season!

The worst "big" player.
 

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