Serie A: Juventus vs Roma [Feb 16 , 2008] (4 Viewers)

[marto_juve]

Good 1st half, great Alex. Poor 2nd half, bad subs for Ranieri. Why You replace Mauro with Nocerino!? And if You do that, why so early in the begining of the 2nd half? We lost control of the match and we have to thanks Roma players that they didn't take their chances. Lucky win. Not that I'm not happy, but next time with this tactic We may lose points again and then We will swear at Ranieri for a serial time

 

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[Amaurisimo]

Good 1st half, great Alex. Poor 2nd half, bad subs for Ranieri. Why You replace Mauro with Nocerino!? And if You do that, why so early in the begining of the 2nd half? We lost control of the match and we have to thanks Roma players that they didn't take their chances. Lucky win. Not that I'm not happy, but next time with this tactic We may lose points again and then We will swear at Ranieri for a serial time

my friend, please read few more posts before submitting yours and than you get might better idea of why ,what, where etc..

Welcome to forum, and enjoy your stay

PS. but don't critisize a lot

 

[sateeh]

Dominic and Denco well said agreed

I know Camoranesi was injured, I don't need everyone to tell me that in every post, why did he sub Nocerino and not other player in?

You and everyone including me said Ranieri is a bad coach, and he still is a bad coach for introducing Nocerino into the game and giving the control to Roma, why some of you have problems with my comment or anyone who agree with me? why is this discussion is still going on, since we all agree he is a bad coach?? Me, Andy, Vinman and everyone credited first half's performance to Ranieri, and all of us criticized him for substituting Nocerino in (and not taking Camoranesi out), what is the big fucking deal with this??

It was between nocerino and brazzo imo. Tiago was too much of a risk to play 45 minutes against a team like roma.

Between the two i think nocerino was the better option because camo was essentially occupying a central midfield role drifting to the right not to other way around.

Its simply the case of the lesser of two evils imo.

And we all know that Ranieri has his deficiencies and there are a lot of gaps in his plans or approaches to the games but on the weekend hes beat a coach that is regarded by many as one of the best in the league with a much better squad. Reality is even with the nocerino sub we still beat them comprehensively.

 

[Amaurisimo]

Have you seen latest DP interview where he said that Juve is not happy with 2nd place?
That is true spirit of the real captain and it tells enough about situation of our team.

 

[marto_juve]

my friend, please read few more posts before submitting yours and than you get might better idea of why ,what, where etc..

Welcome to forum, and enjoy your stay

PS. but don't critisize a lot

Sorry, I'm not going to read 31 pages to get the answers for a rethorical questions

Thanks for Your Welcome. I have reg from a long time, but till now I just reading

P.S. I just wonder why I have to close my eyes for the mistakes, when I love JUVENTUS. When something is not good for the team I will critisize.

 

[Amaurisimo]

Sorry, I'm not going to read 31 pages to get the answers for a rethorical questions

Thanks for Your Welcome. I have reg from a long time, but till now I just reading

P.S. I just wonder why I have to close my eyes for the mistakes, when I love JUVENTUS. When something is not good for the team I will critisize.

Never close your eyes my friend, and of course you can criticize. But also give a credit were due..
We are fighting for 2nd spot with bit more than average squad and people / players should be more appreciated. Thats all

 

[marto_juve]

We are fighting for 2nd spot with bit more than average squad and people / players should be more appreciated. Thats all

You are right. I just notice that We were lucky to get 3 points from Roma and next time We may not have the same luck if Ranieri make the same subs. All 2nd half We were keeping this 1 goal advantage instead of being the team controling the match.

 

[Amaurisimo]

You are right. I just notice that We were lucky to get 3 points from Roma and next time We may not have the same luck if Ranieri make the same subs. All 2nd half We were keeping this 1 goal advantage instead of being the team controling the match.

its bit more than just luck, don't you think so?

 

[Salvo]

its bit more than just luck, don't you think so?

its much more than luck, its the will to win and fight! it is juve.

 

[Bjerknes]

my friend, please read few more posts before submitting yours and than you get might better idea of why ,what, where etc..

Welcome to forum, and enjoy your stay

PS. but don't critisize a lot

Who the fuck do you think you are, Lampard? Captain Beatty?

 

[Amaurisimo]

its much more than luck, its the will to win and fight! it is juve.

 

[Borko_10]

This match and matches with Toro and Fio are very important and we must beat them if we want to be second at the and of the season.

 

[Amaurisimo]

Who the fuck do you think you are, Lampard? Captain Beatty?

Andy!?
Why do you always have to be so offensive and arrogant. I know it is part of your style but i believe that under this mask where you are hiding day in and day out its really nice man..

Anyway take care

 

[denco]

Did you even see the match?



I dont have to see the game to know how you and the rest of Ranieri bashers would react but I did think at leats for this game you would cut him some slack but no its the usual bashing without basis.

Why do we need to play well? Do we have Cl match to play in where our bad play owuld be shown up?

No we are winning and thats all that matters as this is a team that last season were SereiB winners.

This is not a tem that won serieA last season or performed so well in Cl last season this is a squad that playerd serieb football last season.

Saying Molinaro is not Juventus material is another puzzler, what juve are you refering to if the one that had great players in their side then yes but this Juventus is in transition so whether its like you or not he is this Juventus material.

Then your unintentionally funny statemnt that only people with balls are criticising Ranieri.

I didnt think you needed to be brave to criticise from afar cos as far as I am aware noone is doing face to face to Ranieri.

All Ranieri bashers have been waiting for him to be trounced by the big boys but so far it has not happened.

You guys say Milan is not playing to their full potential and then you say seriea is the worst in history or something to that effect if both cases are true then Milan would still be winning as we all know they have world class players.

Ranieri has guided this team to 3rd higher than Milan, Fiorentina and 1 point behind Roma and done so in the most difficult of circumstances.

If they draw it his fault if they win then its the individual that scored the goal that takes the glory, now that would make sense if he is blessed with world class talent but he is not and he needs his big name players to bail him out more than most.

Molinaro is bashed left right and centre and even bashed for giving 100%. You cannot bash a player for giving you everything he has got.

Seguing to Sissoko, first of all the guys has not played games in like a year so we don't know his full match fitness and secondly most of the palyers that came ofrom African cup of nations have been either rested or had nightmarish games when they have played.

Diarra came back and played against Almeria and was so bad he has not been seen again. Saydoo keita came back and played against Barcelona and was red carded. kanoute was substituted in the same game and these players have played far more games than Sissoko.

Kolo Toure and Eboue had nightmare games against manchester United in their only appearance since being back.

Nope i dont have too games to know the criticisms are entirely baseless as there is not a reason on earth as to why we have to play well.

Some of the players would not be here next season and if they are and we keep playing this way then your criticism would have some merit but for now it has no foundations whatsoever.

Under Lippi, Capello and Deschamps we played shit with far better players in case of the 1st 2 managers and apart from Lippi the managers took a lot of flak on here as well in Capello's case I was 1 of those that slaughtered him but that was because I was more interested in Cl than scudetto and I didnt see us winning it with his style

 

[Borko_10]

I wonna say just one thing:

Alex Del Piero is THE BEST!!!

 

[Azzurri7]

Have you seen latest DP interview where he said that Juve is not happy with 2nd place?
That is true spirit of the real captain and it tells enough about situation of our team.

Thats the spirit.

 

[Amaurisimo]

I wonna say just one thing:

Alex Del Piero is THE BEST!!!

i thought you would say , Denco nice post and point into that direction but...

Anyway welcome to forum

 

[Snoop]

Dominic and Denco well said agreed

It was between nocerino and brazzo imo. Tiago was too much of a risk to play 45 minutes against a team like roma.

Between the two i think nocerino was the better option because camo was essentially occupying a central midfield role drifting to the right not to other way around.

Its simply the case of the lesser of two evils imo.

And we all know that Ranieri has his deficiencies and there are a lot of gaps in his plans or approaches to the games but on the weekend hes beat a coach that is regarded by many as one of the best in the league with a much better squad. Reality is even with the nocerino sub we still beat them comprehensively.

I would not put Salihamidzic in, and I wouldn't be sure to put Tiago in, but he could shine in this match and this could be the chance for him, since Ranieri asked him to stay, why is he keeping him on the bench anyway? if he kept Almiron instead he could add more than Nocerino, and what about Sissoko? wouldn't that be the best replacement? or even Palladino, the guy knows to dribble and is very effective offensively. But all these arguments won't end with a conclusion, since the result is good, and that's turning to be the main topic I am afraid..

I wouldn't really call Spaletti the best coach, he isn't anything special, it's just the league is weak that Spaletti is having a good season, which was the same case for the last year, second of Italy and the same team got beaten by 7 goals by Manchester United. He isn't anything special!

 

[Bjerknes]

Denco,

If you're not going to bother to watch something you intend to comment on, I'm not really going to waste my time responding to what you have to say. But two things:

1) I praised Ranieri for his decisions in the first half. Pay attention, please.

2) I don't use the term "Juve material," so I don't know what you're talking about.

Molinaro is just a talentless hack and if you watched EVERY match you'd see that he's just not that good. Get over it already.

 

[Ahmed]

Did you even see the match?



I dont have to see the game to know how you and the rest of Ranieri bashers would react but I did think at leats for this game you would cut him some slack but no its the usual bashing without basis.

Why do we need to play well? Do we have Cl match to play in where our bad play owuld be shown up?

No we are winning and thats all that matters as this is a team that last season were SereiB winners.

This is not a tem that won serieA last season or performed so well in Cl last season this is a squad that playerd serieb football last season.

Saying Molinaro is not Juventus material is another puzzler, what juve are you refering to if the one that had great players in their side then yes but this Juventus is in transition so whether its like you or not he is this Juventus material.

Then your unintentionally funny statemnt that only people with balls are criticising Ranieri.

I didnt think you needed to be brave to criticise from afar cos as far as I am aware noone is doing face to face to Ranieri.

All Ranieri bashers have been waiting for him to be trounced by the big boys but so far it has not happened.

You guys say Milan is not playing to their full potential and then you say seriea is the worst in history or something to that effect if both cases are true then Milan would still be winning as we all know they have world class players.

Ranieri has guided this team to 3rd higher than Milan, Fiorentina and 1 point behind Roma and done so in the most difficult of circumstances.

If they draw it his fault if they win then its the individual that scored the goal that takes the glory, now that would make sense if he is blessed with world class talent but he is not and he needs his big name players to bail him out more than most.

Molinaro is bashed left right and centre and even bashed for giving 100%. You cannot bash a player for giving you everything he has got.

Seguing to Sissoko, first of all the guys has not played games in like a year so we don't know his full match fitness and secondly most of the palyers that came ofrom African cup of nations have been either rested or had nightmarish games when they have played.

Diarra came back and played against Almeria and was so bad he has not been seen again. Saydoo keita came back and played against Barcelona and was red carded. kanoute was substituted in the same game and these players have played far more games than Sissoko.

Kolo Toure and Eboue had nightmare games against manchester United in their only appearance since being back.

Nope i dont have too games to know the criticisms are entirely baseless as there is not a reason on earth as to why we have to play well.

Some of the players would not be here next season and if they are and we keep playing this way then your criticism would have some merit but for now it has no foundations whatsoever.

Under Lippi, Capello and Deschamps we played shit with far better players in case of the 1st 2 managers and apart from Lippi the managers took a lot of flak on here as well in Capello's case I was 1 of those that slaughtered him but that was because I was more interested in Cl than scudetto and I didnt see us winning it with his style

A simple NO would have been enough