[Serie A] Juventus - Siena (2 Viewers)

Maresca

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Aug 23, 2004
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Holygr4le said:
I´m all good! :) You?

1: If Zebina is ok we shold play with him and Zambo as wings IMO. Chiellini is ok but really not good enough for the starting eleven. He is not a worldclass player.

2: Ok. My bad. Should have knowed that. In that case Chiellini can play.


I thought he did a good game (as you can see in my ratings) but just seeing him on the pitch tells me our roster is a bit to week.
But what really gets on my nerves is that we do not paste up!!! It is like they all are sleeping out there. Mourinho talked about how important it was to provide the players with adrenaline as they went into every game. Because when you win and win and win it is so much harder to get the boost before a game.

That is my biggest fear. Capello not being able to create that killer instinct.
Just look how we played against BM in the game you went to and we lost. They did not move. Looked like statues out there.
I am good too, thanks.
well Chielini is getting better all the time, I remeber his first matchs. he was very bad at the begining. I also have the feeling that the players are sleeping out there. And this is exactly our problem since capello is our coach.
 

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giovanotti

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Aug 13, 2004
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Maresca said:
I am good too, thanks.
well Chielini is getting better all the time, I remeber his first matchs. he was very bad at the begining. I also have the feeling that the players are sleeping out there. And this is exactly our problem since capello is our coach.
I don't have a problem with Chiellini,and think he should play,he is good.
 

Maresca

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Aug 23, 2004
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giovanotti said:
I don't have a problem with Chiellini,and think he should play,he is good.
as I said, you can see that he is getting better from match to match. and this is our best solution. He is surly better than Zebina and Blasi.
Actionly I don´t understand why most of people want Zambrotta on the left? I don´t think there is a different for him playing on the right of left side.
 

giovanotti

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I think that Chiellini is really good...Zebina is totally out and yes Zambro can use both legs equaly so I don't see any problem for him to cover every lateral position.
 

Espectro

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Jul 12, 2002
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Ok, I watched the highlites of the game, and I must say that we play a boring match... but again we close the half season the way we started the season...

On Del Piero, well It make me very sad to see the chances that he didnt score, I mean make me remember that DP is not young anymore, I hope he can nail it next game.

On Ibra: Im getting very concern about him, he didnt have the best of the games, he played very porr and I, like many others here, thnk that maybe its time to put him in the bench for a couple of games, so he can retunr to his best, becouse this is the part of the season that we need him.

The most positive note of the game; Trezeguet, this man is incredible, great definition!!! amazing, just amazing, keep going like this and he WILL end top scorer.

And to end my post, I join the voice of the people who says: PUT ZAMBROTTA ON THE LEFT!!!!

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Eire

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    i dont think anyone expected juve to produce a brilliant display against siena, the workman like performance and three points was enough for me it was the last match of a hectic and greulling first half of the season.

    juve when possible always play their strongest 11 they have put in the hard work and obtained the results to top serie a and their champions league group.

    milan and inter have played well for some matches and very poor in others they are striving to find top gear, while juve are winding down for the break to get ready for another major onslaught come january.

    imo the winter break has come at a great time for a juve tean that was starting to show signs of tirdness and at a very bad time for inter who had only just found their form.

    come the palermo match juve will be back to their best its bad that zambro is suspended, but maybe balz or blasi will do well in his absence
     

    denco

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    Jul 12, 2002
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    I have just seen the match and like most on here, i was bored to tears by the overall game. It was horrid to watch at times and i just don't understand how we cannot put a vastly inferior side in their place in terms of performance.
    Well the likes of Andy and Vinman have the foresight to see we have problems but most others are just happy to see a win and then bore us to tears when things do not go well, when its too late
    i am not a doomsayer and its not anything against Capello, its just the man will shock me if we win the Cl the rate at which we are going.
    I don't belive any team should peak early and its always nice to pace yourself , then go into overdrive when the crunch of the matter comes around, but unfortunately this Juve team , though blessed with great players do not have any gear to move up on due to tactics that are suffocating.
    Under Lippi at home, though not as talented as squad , we use to pulverise poor teams, okay we used to come up short against good sides but at least we used to show who was boss. Under Capello, its always win lackadasical, and the annoying part is we play the same way against Siena as we will play against Milan, no shifting in gear at all. Too many players outta positions and in trying to accommodate the archaic 4-4-2, proverbial round pegs in small holes comes to mind.
    Abiatti: I am not sure why he was given high marks by some in this game as for me he was flapping at everything, got lucky on 2 occasions as Chiesa beat him with his free kick that hit the post 5
    Zambrotta : was almost non existent as an attacking force and its getting boring but why is a player who was probably the best left back in the world noww playing right back where he is just competent 5
    Chiellini: well to be fair he was one of the plusses of this match as he played better than i have ever seen him play, may have given away a penalty but he defended well and passed better 6
    Cannavaro: was not really tested as siena are quite hopeless , but took his goal well 6
    Thuram: Now this was the shocker for me, as having not watched the game live, i came on here and saw ppl give him 6, some 6.5 , saying he was better than he was against Lazio, WRONG! he was worse, he was abysmal, he kept on trying to protect the ball and losing it on numerous occasions, even the commentator kept on having a go at him, that he was the weakest link, if he caused a goal like he did against LAZIO then the mark would have been different , he used to be the world's finest central defender at Parma, ironically was played at right back for France cos he was too good and could play both positions well, but now, he is always trying to shield the ball, which he use dto do in his sleep but falls over or causes havoc for his team , go to right back please 4
    Camoranesi: was awful in the first half, slightly better in the second 5
    Vieira: was comfortable against mediocrity 6
    Emerson same as Vieira 6
    Zlatan: tried hard, had opposition all over him when he is with the ball, and they took it off him, can see why ppl think he played poorly but it aint easy when you have 3 or 4 defenders around you and though he was not brilliant he was not as bad as ppl are making him out to be 5.5
    Trez : what a shocker, he was more involved in this game than anyother i have seen him in a long time and totally deserved his goal 6.5
    Mutu: huffed and puffed in an alien position 5.5
    Dp: started brightly then settled into the mediocrity around him 5

    Capello: oh well, Nedved is suspended, do you have the foresight to change the system against a very poor Siena, but what do you do? Yes your tried and trusted safety first approach, win but not impressive which has been the hallmark of your career. You remember when you too Milan to the title by winning almost everygame 1-0, well its just like that, effective but utterly boring and you got no man management skills whatsoever
     

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