[Serie A] Juventus - Palermo (28 Viewers)
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I know it's time to focus on the match and not the Capello discussion but I'll post my post now anyway. Afterall I did spend a lot of time and effort on it.
Early and early… We reached the quarterfinals both times against Liverpool who turned out to win and Arsenal who are now in the final. I can’t really argue on the Liverpool exit since became a Juve fan only last September. The Arsenal game was one of the few matches where I was left disappointed with Capello so I won’t defend him in this match.
But yes, I was really disappointed that Arsenal knocked us out. Mostly at the players who underperformed in both matches but also about Capello’s substitutions. But we have to keep in mind that the two-legged defeat in the Champions League came during a period of bad form. Throughout the whole season Juventus completely smashed every opposition! And Capello deserves a lot of credit for that. But during a whole season every team in the world will inevitably enter a crisis. Small or big. It happened to Barcelona, Milan, Chelsea and to us.
All we can do is put the CL defeats in the last couple of years behind us and try our very best to win the title with the big ears again as soon as possible.
We can easily agree that Capello uses the same 11 players throughout the whole season. And yes it may cause a little bit fatique but when you look at how many points we gathered together (at some point 12 points ahead of Milan) it is definitely worth it.
Juventus have been number 1 in Serie A every single week since Capello took over so there is nothing in the statistics to suggest that Juventus have been tired.
However I must agree that in a selection of very few matches this season the team could have been rotated some more. But then again Capello watches his players’ form every day in training, we don’t…
I would disagree on the notion that our crisis this season was due to fatique. The players ran their asses off throughout all the matches this season, they simply hit a period of bad form. Thankfully it is now over and we should be ready to win Lo Scudetto.
In my opinion the only player who has been fielded out of position is Mutu.
Capello’s substitutions have with the exception of 3-5 games this season been absolutely world class. Sometimes when he makes a substitution that I don’t understand I’m left with the impression after the match that he saw something no one else on the globe did. That’s just one opinion. I think Capello is one of the best tacticians if not the best in the game.
I disagree that we only played long balls in the matches you mention. We played a combination of long balls and small passes. I would however agree that it is smart to have a backup plan. Maybe if we did we wouldn’t have been eliminated from the CL. But again I must point out that Capello deliberately tries to make the player’s comfortable with one tactic in order to make it simple for his players. And this very tactic led us to perfect results in Serie A. So Capello’s socalled ‘stubborness’ which is in fact a genious tactic maybe didn’t win the CL so far but it won Lo Scudetto once and maybe in the space of days two Scudetti.
Capello won the CL with Milan so I can’t see why he shouldn’t have a chance of doing the same for us.
The CL exit came because of various factors. One was the absence of Ale, and we all know there is a good chance that had he played vs. Arsenal we could’ve easily gone through to the semifinals. Then like I said in response to Tifoso Lou Capello made some bad substitutions but I completely take distance from the opinion that our player’s were tired and this was the sole reason we were eliminated. I’d say we were probably equally tired at this stage of the season as all the other teams were.
I agree that Capello needs to win the CL to fully prove himself at Juventus but he did very well already: He managed to keep his perfect record of winning big titles with every team he coached.
I agree on the notion that if we played like Milan (4-3-1-2) or a diamond 4-4-2 like the one we used to play with Dechamps and Zidane back in the 90’s we would be stronger offencevely. But that requires a world class playmaker like Zidane used to be. Or the big playmakers we have today like Ronaldinho, Kaka, Totti, etc.
But the fact is that unfortunately we just don’t have such a player. Maybe Capello asked for one but Moggi and co. were simply unable to find a ‘great’ player. So Capello has to do with the players he afterall has and make the best formation out of that. And with the current squad we have that lineup is a 4-4-2 with the exception of a few matches where a more offensive lineup is needed.
Tifoso Lou said:
You make a good argument 
How do you explain Juve's early CL exits the past two years, though (especially this year)?
I think he over uses his "favorite" players in Serie A...which leads to them being fatigued for CL and, late in the season at least, for Serie A itself.
What do you think, amico mio?
How do you explain Juve's early CL exits the past two years, though (especially this year)?
I think he over uses his "favorite" players in Serie A...which leads to them being fatigued for CL and, late in the season at least, for Serie A itself.
What do you think, amico mio?
But yes, I was really disappointed that Arsenal knocked us out. Mostly at the players who underperformed in both matches but also about Capello’s substitutions. But we have to keep in mind that the two-legged defeat in the Champions League came during a period of bad form. Throughout the whole season Juventus completely smashed every opposition! And Capello deserves a lot of credit for that. But during a whole season every team in the world will inevitably enter a crisis. Small or big. It happened to Barcelona, Milan, Chelsea and to us.
All we can do is put the CL defeats in the last couple of years behind us and try our very best to win the title with the big ears again as soon as possible.
We can easily agree that Capello uses the same 11 players throughout the whole season. And yes it may cause a little bit fatique but when you look at how many points we gathered together (at some point 12 points ahead of Milan) it is definitely worth it.
Juventus have been number 1 in Serie A every single week since Capello took over so there is nothing in the statistics to suggest that Juventus have been tired.
However I must agree that in a selection of very few matches this season the team could have been rotated some more. But then again Capello watches his players’ form every day in training, we don’t…
I would disagree on the notion that our crisis this season was due to fatique. The players ran their asses off throughout all the matches this season, they simply hit a period of bad form. Thankfully it is now over and we should be ready to win Lo Scudetto.
In my opinion the only player who has been fielded out of position is Mutu.
Capello’s substitutions have with the exception of 3-5 games this season been absolutely world class. Sometimes when he makes a substitution that I don’t understand I’m left with the impression after the match that he saw something no one else on the globe did. That’s just one opinion. I think Capello is one of the best tacticians if not the best in the game.
I disagree that we only played long balls in the matches you mention. We played a combination of long balls and small passes. I would however agree that it is smart to have a backup plan. Maybe if we did we wouldn’t have been eliminated from the CL. But again I must point out that Capello deliberately tries to make the player’s comfortable with one tactic in order to make it simple for his players. And this very tactic led us to perfect results in Serie A. So Capello’s socalled ‘stubborness’ which is in fact a genious tactic maybe didn’t win the CL so far but it won Lo Scudetto once and maybe in the space of days two Scudetti.
Capello won the CL with Milan so I can’t see why he shouldn’t have a chance of doing the same for us.
The CL exit came because of various factors. One was the absence of Ale, and we all know there is a good chance that had he played vs. Arsenal we could’ve easily gone through to the semifinals. Then like I said in response to Tifoso Lou Capello made some bad substitutions but I completely take distance from the opinion that our player’s were tired and this was the sole reason we were eliminated. I’d say we were probably equally tired at this stage of the season as all the other teams were.
I agree that Capello needs to win the CL to fully prove himself at Juventus but he did very well already: He managed to keep his perfect record of winning big titles with every team he coached.
I agree on the notion that if we played like Milan (4-3-1-2) or a diamond 4-4-2 like the one we used to play with Dechamps and Zidane back in the 90’s we would be stronger offencevely. But that requires a world class playmaker like Zidane used to be. Or the big playmakers we have today like Ronaldinho, Kaka, Totti, etc.
But the fact is that unfortunately we just don’t have such a player. Maybe Capello asked for one but Moggi and co. were simply unable to find a ‘great’ player. So Capello has to do with the players he afterall has and make the best formation out of that. And with the current squad we have that lineup is a 4-4-2 with the exception of a few matches where a more offensive lineup is needed.
Esteban said:
Uhh, what now? If we win one and draw one, Milan can win both their games, and we will still be the champs with a one point margin. So in what way are we depending on Parma and Roma? 
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