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[SERIE A] Juventus - Catania (24th September, 2008) (32 Viewers)
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Juventus Ranieri 'wasted a lot'
23:08, 24 September
Claudio Ranieri can not be satisfied: "We have wasted so many occasions - he said - I hope the next time they do less but more concrete. The first time we played better anyway. Playing on a field so it is not easy, it seems a field of sand, but I try not mitigated. I saw very well Giovinco, moreover, was what I expected from him tonight
Thats a copule of times hes blamed the Olympico pitch
23:08, 24 September
Claudio Ranieri can not be satisfied: "We have wasted so many occasions - he said - I hope the next time they do less but more concrete. The first time we played better anyway. Playing on a field so it is not easy, it seems a field of sand, but I try not mitigated. I saw very well Giovinco, moreover, was what I expected from him tonight
Thats a copule of times hes blamed the Olympico pitch
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Ranieri: It wouldn't go in! Wednesday 24 September, 2008
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Claudio Ranieri was cursing Juventus’ luck after they “tried everything to score” the winner against Catania.
The Bianconeri had taken the lead through Amauri, but couldn’t fight back after Gianvito Plasmati’s equaliser.
“In the last half-hour we tried everything to score, but the ball didn’t want to go in. It’s a shame,” mused the tactician.
“We wasted a lot of chances, but this is football and one day the game will come where we only need a couple of opportunities to win. We’ll do better in time.”
Plasmati was able to tap in from close range after a cross went past both Nicola Legrottaglie and Giorgio Chiellini.
“We conceded a goal thanks to an absurd bounce of the ball, as Chiellini had it covered and it changed direction. We are playing on sand in Turin, but so are our opponents, although it’s worse for us when we try to play the ball to feet.
“Catania worked hard, clammed up and if you don’t have the right pace in moving the ball around, you can’t break them down.”
Sebastian Giovinco was fielded on the left side of midfield in place of Pavel Nedved and, aside from setting up Amauri’s goal, he impressed the Juve faithful.
“We took Giovinco back home because we expect him to perform the way he did tonight,” said Ranieri.
“He started many scoring opportunities and did well. This is what we wanted.”
Catania Coach Walter Zenga went close to causing an upset at San Siro against Inter 10 days ago and finally managed to snatch a point from Juve.
“For more than an hour we were on level terms with Juventus, then a great performance from our goalkeeper Bizzarri helped take home the point,” said the boss.
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Claudio Ranieri was cursing Juventus’ luck after they “tried everything to score” the winner against Catania.
The Bianconeri had taken the lead through Amauri, but couldn’t fight back after Gianvito Plasmati’s equaliser.
“In the last half-hour we tried everything to score, but the ball didn’t want to go in. It’s a shame,” mused the tactician.
“We wasted a lot of chances, but this is football and one day the game will come where we only need a couple of opportunities to win. We’ll do better in time.”
Plasmati was able to tap in from close range after a cross went past both Nicola Legrottaglie and Giorgio Chiellini.
“We conceded a goal thanks to an absurd bounce of the ball, as Chiellini had it covered and it changed direction. We are playing on sand in Turin, but so are our opponents, although it’s worse for us when we try to play the ball to feet.
“Catania worked hard, clammed up and if you don’t have the right pace in moving the ball around, you can’t break them down.”
Sebastian Giovinco was fielded on the left side of midfield in place of Pavel Nedved and, aside from setting up Amauri’s goal, he impressed the Juve faithful.
“We took Giovinco back home because we expect him to perform the way he did tonight,” said Ranieri.
“He started many scoring opportunities and did well. This is what we wanted.”
Catania Coach Walter Zenga went close to causing an upset at San Siro against Inter 10 days ago and finally managed to snatch a point from Juve.
“For more than an hour we were on level terms with Juventus, then a great performance from our goalkeeper Bizzarri helped take home the point,” said the boss.
Channel 4
I think Ranieri should stop acting like Giovinco is 12.
He is 21. He should start. He has played a whole season in Serie A and is the starting CAM for the Italian under 21 team. He has enough experience and we need him to play.
Walcot was 16 when Arsenal bought him thats why their coach did not throw him in the deep end. But look at Cesc he was a starter at 18 and is syounger than Giovinco I think.
We need 2 of either Camo, Giovinco or Nedved on the field at all times .. seeing how Camo is out ... Giovinco should start and when Camo is back Giovinco should still start!
He is 21. He should start. He has played a whole season in Serie A and is the starting CAM for the Italian under 21 team. He has enough experience and we need him to play.
Walcot was 16 when Arsenal bought him thats why their coach did not throw him in the deep end. But look at Cesc he was a starter at 18 and is syounger than Giovinco I think.
We need 2 of either Camo, Giovinco or Nedved on the field at all times .. seeing how Camo is out ... Giovinco should start and when Camo is back Giovinco should still start!
that was terrible
I hear this a lot and i think we should give a little time to our players. This year we definitely have 4 fantastic attackers. But the team is new yet and we need some time. For scoring many goals the midfielders must learn very well the game of our attackers. Zanetti is one player that does it. Camo and Neddy too. But that's it. Momo played only six months in Juve last year and he is still learning. And there are more such players. Gio, Marchisio and Poulsen are new. Gryera who helps a lot didn't play last year and Molinaro is new too. Marchionni didn't play last year because of his injuries and he needs some time too...
Just be a little patient. This year we have a much better team than last year and we should just give a little more time to our new players...
Just be a little patient. This year we have a much better team than last year and we should just give a little more time to our new players...
No doubt. He and the crossbar share the spoils. 
You forgot to bring your brain with yourself.
Don't post stupid stuff, please.
You forgot to bring your brain with yourself.
Don't post stupid stuff, please.
Very unlucky tonight, Del Piero and Amauri were so unlucky!
Impressed with Giovinco, but he lacked the experience when 1 on 1 with keeper as he should have went to the keeper's left or right not straight at him!
Manninger was good and was there when called upon.
Nedved should have been brought on at 75 mins as he would have delivered better set plays than Del piero did tonight.
Inter again won ugly as they always do yet we did not have the luck tonight to win ugly as the forces of darkness had all the luck. Hope to see both Camo and Pavel back on Saturday for the full 90.
Impressed with Giovinco, but he lacked the experience when 1 on 1 with keeper as he should have went to the keeper's left or right not straight at him!
Manninger was good and was there when called upon.
Nedved should have been brought on at 75 mins as he would have delivered better set plays than Del piero did tonight.
Inter again won ugly as they always do yet we did not have the luck tonight to win ugly as the forces of darkness had all the luck. Hope to see both Camo and Pavel back on Saturday for the full 90.
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it isn't Ranieri's fault that Chi made such a big mistake...according to everyone Juve created loads of chances and Giovinco started the match...what else do you guys want? Marchionni is the direct replacement for Camo, and did well against Cagliari so he deserved a game today...it's a combination of bad luck and loss of concentration...lets move on and think about the Sampdoria game
Agreed. As much as I don't rate Ranieri, he really made the right choices today. He put on Sali so that Gio has more space, and he had, but we just couldn't score. Then Gio got a bit injured, so Pavel was brought on and Marchisio's passing was often poor, so he introduced a midfielder with better passing.