Let's be real. Parma should have won this 2-5.
We can hate him all we want but Inzaghi was right after Inter.
We can hate him all we want but Inzaghi was right after Inter.
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[Serie A] Juventus 2-2 Parma [30th October, 2024 20:45 CET] (7 Viewers)
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Napoli haven't really changed their squad much. Lukaku for Osimhen, and he's basically Conte's son. They've spent money buying in key areas, they have one game per week. They have no injuries. Also, it's early season and I've seen Roma for example do this before and go running away with it.
Conte knows how to win in a short period of time and get players motivated, this type of scenario is literally all he exists for in football, he's much more experienced than Motta. But who actually wanted Conte back? He's not someone you plan with long term.
Conte knows how to win in a short period of time and get players motivated, this type of scenario is literally all he exists for in football, he's much more experienced than Motta. But who actually wanted Conte back? He's not someone you plan with long term.
He's not a bad coach. He's inexperienced pretentious coach, not even close suited for what we actually needed after we fired Allegri. That's the difference. I said it from day one Motta's not gonna cut it here.
I even made a bet with a member here Motta won't make more then 12 wins out of 25 matches by the end of 2024. His record now is 6-6-1 and that is really bad for Juventus standards, especially having in mind 200 million invested in the market over the summer.
BTW if you invest 200 million in the market, top 4 can't be your top objective!
I even made a bet with a member here Motta won't make more then 12 wins out of 25 matches by the end of 2024. His record now is 6-6-1 and that is really bad for Juventus standards, especially having in mind 200 million invested in the market over the summer.
BTW if you invest 200 million in the market, top 4 can't be your top objective!
Yeah they didnt change a squad that finished outside the european places. Being 7 points behind them and have 5 points less after 10 rounds is not acceptable, atleast Not for me after spending 250 mil in Transfers.
Every year I hear the same excuses and tbh im sick of it. Motta needs to get his shit sorted out asap. It’s not bad luck if it always happens to you, it’s bad management
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Every year I hear the same excuses and tbh im sick of it. Motta needs to get his shit sorted out asap. It’s not bad luck if it always happens to you, it’s bad management
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It's mostly the same squad that won the scudetto the year before, so the 7th place thing doesn't really work when we know that's a false position for them. Bad coaching from clowns left them there. We knew Conte would improve them, but it's not really about matching how many points they have. If they win every single game there's nothing we can do. Is Conte the messiah, Manna now a great manager because of what happens on the pitch?
Having "spent 250m" (parroting Turk is nice but 70m of that was for two players who already played for us and signed before Giuntoli days) means that there is an increase in quality in the playing squad, but did people honestly expect a quick fix changing so many players and a new coach? Be realistic, are we supposed to have 25 points already?
I'm not getting carried away with the October and November scudetto crowns, seen it all many times before, they've basically changed 3 or 4 players for similar quality, and only have Serie A, but there's obviously things for us to worry about when the team goes from Allegri v2 in the early rounds to Klopp on steroids after Bremer gets injured. We have a relatively inexperienced coach and a young team, it'll take time. This is the path the club chose. Fans won't accept this, circular discussions, etc. At least we have a forum for it, I guess.
There's nothing worse watching than an imbalanced team, and that's what I see with us. Motta has to find solutions, he has enough players to choose from.
Having "spent 250m" (parroting Turk is nice but 70m of that was for two players who already played for us and signed before Giuntoli days) means that there is an increase in quality in the playing squad, but did people honestly expect a quick fix changing so many players and a new coach? Be realistic, are we supposed to have 25 points already?
I'm not getting carried away with the October and November scudetto crowns, seen it all many times before, they've basically changed 3 or 4 players for similar quality, and only have Serie A, but there's obviously things for us to worry about when the team goes from Allegri v2 in the early rounds to Klopp on steroids after Bremer gets injured. We have a relatively inexperienced coach and a young team, it'll take time. This is the path the club chose. Fans won't accept this, circular discussions, etc. At least we have a forum for it, I guess.
There's nothing worse watching than an imbalanced team, and that's what I see with us. Motta has to find solutions, he has enough players to choose from.
We spend 250 mil no matter how you put it, though …. None of these players I mentioned played here before and none did we spend 70 mil on before guintoli worked here. Last time I checked he was responsible for this years mercato
If you ask me - I don’t see any increase in quality in the playing squad tbh. Either we create nothing or leak 3 goals a game. I have seen plenty of games this year that looked exactly like Allegri 2.0.
I don’t expect us to win every game but drawing games at home vs relegation teams is just not good enough sorry.
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If you ask me - I don’t see any increase in quality in the playing squad tbh. Either we create nothing or leak 3 goals a game. I have seen plenty of games this year that looked exactly like Allegri 2.0.
I don’t expect us to win every game but drawing games at home vs relegation teams is just not good enough sorry.
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This team just can't catch up playing high press full matches with all the competition we have, I can see we almost play match training in every training session, and this clearly drain the players more
And add the injury of our top players like Koop, Bremer and Nico G, D Luiz, basically 200m worth of players value comes from them
Danilo isn't up to the standard to play what Motta wants, basically the players need speed and stamina to play this kind of game
Watching last game it seems those players need 3 days sleep to regain their stamina back
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And add the injury of our top players like Koop, Bremer and Nico G, D Luiz, basically 200m worth of players value comes from them
Danilo isn't up to the standard to play what Motta wants, basically the players need speed and stamina to play this kind of game
Watching last game it seems those players need 3 days sleep to regain their stamina back
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Your numbers are wrong as you're including guys we haven't even bought or may not buy, or else the figure is 300m or something. We spent 165m this year and 95 the previous year (including Locatelli and Kean on deals organised before Giuntoli). I don't think the exact details really matter that much though. 1st year Giuntoli had little to work with, 2nd year we spent quite a lot (for our standards), so you expect to see an increase in player quality. You don't think we have, fair enough.
We create nothing or leak 3 goals? So you closed your eyes to the 6 goals we scored in the past two games, or other attacks that are spurned? We clearly can't defend but to suggest we pose no threat is basically absurd. Like I said before, we were very Allegri like to start, won games, people made Max Motta memes, Bremer got injured, now we're absolutely nothing like an Allegri team, we're clownish.
We create nothing or leak 3 goals? So you closed your eyes to the 6 goals we scored in the past two games, or other attacks that are spurned? We clearly can't defend but to suggest we pose no threat is basically absurd. Like I said before, we were very Allegri like to start, won games, people made Max Motta memes, Bremer got injured, now we're absolutely nothing like an Allegri team, we're clownish.