[Serie A] Genoa 1-0 JUVENTUS (29th October 2014) (1 Viewer)

[AlexOB]

Like a kid overreacting you say?
This not so top tier performances deserve all the bashing they re getting. Just read sporting news sites, they all agree that Juve is playing uninspired and poor. You cant come here and act like if nothing is happening. And continue living in the nostalgia of those scudettos will take us nowhere. The reality is that we are one step fro getting kicked out of the CL and tied with a roma team that is takingthe bull by the horns. n top of it all our medicore coach.
And this:


Typical white knigth clueless guy.
How can we defend ourselves when we are getting scrappy wins and winning by extremy tight referee calls?, then choking with lesser teams while our rivals keep winning and holding their ground in europe?. Get real!.



Because neutrals:
1- Dont see or analyze our team week in week out like we do here. Because they only see the score sheets and the 102 point scudettos but not all the dirty dishes that come with it.
2- They simply just dont care about the team as a whole,hence they are neutrals.

Lol, listen man, I will make it simpler... The problem is not being annoyed with some poor displays, I have been too. There are things that should be done better, we all know this. But pretending always the best in every match, and acting annoyed if that doesn't happen, even if the results and the season are going overall fine, that's not fair to me. I've seen people saying that for sure we won't make it to the CL (wow, wasn't it a poor Scottish Serie A that we were gonna win even with the Primavera?) or that the team will crash and burn, and other sh|t like that, even HOPING so just to fire Allegri, change formation or whatever. To me, that's not acceptable as a fan.

The fun (not so much) fact is that the same things were overall said even last season after some matches... Conte's time here is done, Roma are gonna win the Scudetto, the defensive record... Blah blah blah...

And now the same people acts like if these times are different than Conte's, and we didn't play a match half as bad as yesterday...

Wanna see a match where we played VERY bad? Watch Genoa-Juve from last season, March 16th IIRC. Enjoy.

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This is the attitude and preparing the match."We will give the answers on the pitch".And they gave them very clearly.

Yeah, I remember something about that season. At this point last year we were 5 points below Roma and everyone, even our own fans of course, predicted them to win the Scudetto easily.

Today is what, October 30th? I think this day that year we were beating Catania midweek, and the day later on Halloween Roma defeated Chievo (Borriello) making it 10 win in a row. Might be wrong though.

However, I can't recall by how many points Roma won the Scudetto back then.

 

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[Hydde]

Lol, listen man, I will make it simpler... The problem is not being annoyed with some poor displays, I have been too. There are things that should be done better, we all know this. But pretending always the best in every match, and acting annoyed if that doesn't happen, even if the results and the season are going overall fine, that's not fair to me. I've seen people saying that for sure we won't make it to the CL (wow, wasn't it a poor Scottish Serie A that we were gonna win even with the Primavera?) or that the team will crash and burn, and other sh|t like that, even HOPING so just to fire Allegri, change formation or whatever. To me, that's not acceptable as a fan.

The fun (not so much) fact is that the same things were overall said even last season after some matches... Conte's time here is done, Roma are gonna win the Scudetto, the defensive record... Blah blah blah...

And now the same people acts like if these times are different than Conte's, and we didn't play a match half as bad as yesterday...

Wanna see a match where we played VERY bad? Watch Genoa-Juve from last season, March 16th IIRC. Enjoy.

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Yeah, I remember something about that season. At this point last year we were 5 points below Roma and everyone, even our own fans of course, predicted them to win the Scudetto easily.

Today is what, October 30th? I think this day that year we were beating Catania midweek, and the day later on Halloween Roma defeated Chievo (Borriello) making it 10 win in a row. Might be wrong though.

However, I can't recall by how many points Roma won the Scudetto back then.

Cleraly we are not sintonized in the same wave. You are seeing the glass half full while im seeing it half empty.
You are seeing some consistency and mediocre results but winning anyways.... while im seeing this team getting worst by the minute.
For you, we were ok with conte, for me we didnt. For you, things hve maitained with allegri...for me, i just see a man using someone else`s idea and deteriorating it every day.

You say we are not out of the CL, and given the schedule, oh yes we have chances to go thru, but this team is plying really, really bad. With conte, we could grind it against lesser teams..but allegri has turned this team into something worst. On top of it all, some of our best players are underperforming hardcore for some unholy reason

Time will tell but the signs are there. We are barely hanging on what Conte build...if thi continues, im pretty sure the negative results will be alot more.

 

[AlexOB]

Cleraly we are not sintonized in the same wave. You are seeing the glass half full while im seeing it half empty.
You are seeing some consistency and mediocre results but winning anyways.... while im seeing this team getting worst by the minute.
For you, we were ok with conte, for me we didnt. For you, things hve maitained with allegri...for me, i just see a man using someone else`s idea and deteriorating it every day.

You say we are not out of the CL, and given the schedule, oh yes we have chances to go thru, but this team is plying really, really bad. With conte, we could grind it against lesser teams..but allegri has turned this team into something worst. On top of it all, some of our best players are underperforming hardcore for some unholy reason

Time will tell but the signs are there. We are barely hanging on what Conte build...if thi continues, im pretty sure the negative results will be alot more.

It's a matter of standards. I'm not happy the way we played yesterday (or even against Palermo, for example) but I recognize there are moments in the season when you are less fit and sharp, and unavoidably you can lose some points (otherwise we'd make 114 points every year, if what some people thinks of Serie A was true). I was happy with the team performances against Chievo, Udinese, Milan, Cesena, Atalanta and Roma at the beginning of the season... That's a streak of matches when we played a very good football. But people fails to recognize that just because they don't like Allegri/3-5-2 (not even do I, but I'm objective) and would like to see some changes or made certain statements at the beginning of the season and do it for the sake of their ego. That's the truth. If then some people really think that every bad-played match is the beginning of the Armageddon for a team with our experience, well, that's called being pussies/having some serious issues. That was the same under Gonde.

I don't agree with the team "not being ok" with Conte, since those were my best years as a supporter for what they've brought, but that's down to personal tastes, I suppose

Oh, I didn't talk about us passing the CL group stage (not really sure down to a lot of things)... I was talking about those who say we will miss out on CL (first 3 places in Serie A) .

 

[Lion]

juve finishing 3rd would be a disaster actually. no way would we win over two legs in cl with massive pressure to qualify

only second place is acceptable

 

[Hydde]

It's a matter of standards. I'm not happy the way we played yesterday (or even against Palermo, for example) but I recognize there are moments in the season when you are less fit and sharp, and unavoidably you can lose some points (otherwise we'd make 114 points every year, if what some people thinks of Serie A was true). I was happy with the team performances against Chievo, Udinese, Milan, Cesena, Atalanta and Roma at the beginning of the season... That's a streak of matches when we played a very good football. But people fails to recognize that just because they don't like Allegri/3-5-2 (not even do I, but I'm objective) and would like to see some changes or made certain statements at the beginning of the season and do it for the sake of their ego. That's the truth. If then some people really think that every bad-played match is the beginning of the Armageddon for a team with our experience, well, that's called being pussies/having some serious issues. That was the same under Gonde.

I don't agree with the team "not being ok" with Conte, since those were my best years as a supporter for what they've brought, but that's down to personal tastes, I suppose

Oh, I didn't talk about us passing the CL group stage (not really sure down to a lot of things)... I was talking about those who say we will miss out on CL (first 3 places in Serie A) .

Well, having seen Zidane and Del Piero´s Juve...an also the hardworking Machine of Nedved, Zambrotta, Camo DP and Trez... i clearly have different references of what Juventus should be. I also have enjoyed this past 3 years, the 2012 scudetto was too special and i even enjoyed it more than the 2001 one.... but we need to have aspirations, we need to try to improve. That was a good stepping stone.... but we are going backwards in the sportive side of things. And i would not be as worried of we had a guy trying to fix this lacklustre performances.... but we have...allegri..

We also have players like pogba and vidal who we need to care and to keep. Losing in the CL will take us nowhere and ill reiterate...we are not playing good and this team is exhausted.

 

[piotrr]

juve finishing 3rd would be a disaster actually. no way would we win over two legs in cl with massive pressure to qualify

only second place is acceptable

That's actually spot on. No way we would beat Bilbao over 2 legs.

 

[DUKAC]

Lol, listen man, I will make it simpler... The problem is not being annoyed with some poor displays, I have been too. There are things that should be done better, we all know this. But pretending always the best in every match, and acting annoyed if that doesn't happen, even if the results and the season are going overall fine, that's not fair to me. I've seen people saying that for sure we won't make it to the CL (wow, wasn't it a poor Scottish Serie A that we were gonna win even with the Primavera?) or that the team will crash and burn, and other sh|t like that, even HOPING so just to fire Allegri, change formation or whatever. To me, that's not acceptable as a fan.

The fun (not so much) fact is that the same things were overall said even last season after some matches... Conte's time here is done, Roma are gonna win the Scudetto, the defensive record... Blah blah blah...

And now the same people acts like if these times are different than Conte's, and we didn't play a match half as bad as yesterday...

Wanna see a match where we played VERY bad? Watch Genoa-Juve from last season, March 16th IIRC. Enjoy.

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Yeah, I remember something about that season. At this point last year we were 5 points below Roma and everyone, even our own fans of course, predicted them to win the Scudetto easily.

Today is what, October 30th? I think this day that year we were beating Catania midweek, and the day later on Halloween Roma defeated Chievo (Borriello) making it 10 win in a row. Might be wrong though.

However, I can't recall by how many points Roma won the Scudetto back then.

My post was about preparing the matches and firing-motivating the players the field in which Alegri is weak .
By the way compare our display at that game against Roma and this season against them although we win.
And I don't remember although I followed Juve a long time ago that everyone were claiming that Roma will win the scudetto last year .
Last year Conte made mistakes in CL but in Serie A even when we play crappy on some matches he managed to win that games on muscles leading the game on the pitch.
And I don't care about fucking Roma.It's just unbearable to watch this shitty display of our team.I don't care that we lost .The problem is that we play very bad and it is not the first game.
Anyway it's only my opinion that Alegri is not a Juve material and that's all.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

Except Tevez, Marchisio and Buffon, the whole squad is underperfoming yet we are on the 1st place, so stop crying, we will see the real juventus only in few months, new guys should settle in, old guys should gain the form, the season after the world cup is always hard, especially at it's start

 

[DUKAC]

Okay if you say so.Like in some good novel with a happy end .Suddenly we will play better with the same coach and his way of thinking? Okay,fine with me.Just watch.We will discuss after "few months".Enjoy the display. meanwhile .

 

[GrandeGigi]

I think the biggest worry is that the back three have been extremely shaky on the ball, the two wing backs haven't matched the standards they set 2 seasons ago and the three central midfielders have struggled to dominate games like they once did. This has left the whole creative burden on tevez to drop deep and create something.

I don't think it's down to bad luck, it's more the system has been figured out and the players are either/both under performing and not motivated.

The subs seem to be full of energy and hunger but they haven't really been given a chance by a manager who doesn't want to rotate more than a player per game.

 

[Maddy]

That's actually spot on. No way we would beat Bilbao over 2 legs.

Sarcasm, 'Tuz,

 

[Goodfella]

Prediction:

Juve are going to win easily (again).
Everyone here is going to complain (again).

 

[Dostoevsky]

He was close.

 

[TheLaz]

I hope Rugani will have a great game

 

[Mark]

 

[TheLaz]

:haddadjunior:

sorry