Ok guys i can agree that maybe i was false:frown: But if for you Poulsen was SOLID, than Zenith midfielders will f*ck our team as babies
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[SERIE A] Fiorentina - Juventus (31st August, 2008) (59 Viewers)
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i'll go to bed tonight like a kid on christmas eve but wake up to find no presents 
it's too late to cry about the mercato but we should have defenatly go for a defender (zapata or at least for a fullback vargas)
and than buy a good midfielder vdv or so... but than again we cash out for amauri and still have the biggest problems at the back...
He can't hear you. He's locked in the trunk of a Fiat Punto.
I was only able to watch the second half, but here's what I can gather. The positives, albeit few, were that no one got overly frustrated with the official, despite losing every 50/50 call and even calls that should have been in Juventus' favour. Another would have to be that there were no injuries to anybody in the team, because everybody knows that no one is going to come in tomorrow regardless of the growing need for reinforcements in certain positions.
Now for the negatives. Why did Ranieri insist on keeping Del Piero and Amauri on for that period of time if they weren't doing anything? You have Iaquinta and Giovinco on the bench for a reason, and many coaches would consider that a luxury. They are there to be used. In addition to that, why did everyone seem to settle for a one-goal lead? I've heard this story before and it usually ends in tears. If you don't have the defence to defend a one-goal lead, then push for a cushion...especially when you have what is arguably the best attack in Serie A. Capello had the strong defenders to pull those tactics off. Juventus played hard today, but really, you can't win anything by being an "88-minute warrior".
I was only able to watch the second half, but here's what I can gather. The positives, albeit few, were that no one got overly frustrated with the official, despite losing every 50/50 call and even calls that should have been in Juventus' favour. Another would have to be that there were no injuries to anybody in the team, because everybody knows that no one is going to come in tomorrow regardless of the growing need for reinforcements in certain positions.
Now for the negatives. Why did Ranieri insist on keeping Del Piero and Amauri on for that period of time if they weren't doing anything? You have Iaquinta and Giovinco on the bench for a reason, and many coaches would consider that a luxury. They are there to be used. In addition to that, why did everyone seem to settle for a one-goal lead? I've heard this story before and it usually ends in tears. If you don't have the defence to defend a one-goal lead, then push for a cushion...especially when you have what is arguably the best attack in Serie A. Capello had the strong defenders to pull those tactics off. Juventus played hard today, but really, you can't win anything by being an "88-minute warrior".
I live in Russia i give a fuck how it spells on english.. Zenit or Zenith - they will beat us if Ranieri will not make some changes..
I fully agree! Sums up nearly everything. I just think, that with Chiellini in there we wouldn't talk about buying a class partner for him. Legro played a good game and with Chiellini next to him, he would have been even better I guess.
I am just sad, when I think about what Chiellini would have done with Gilardino......
I am just sad, when I think about what Chiellini would have done with Gilardino......
I really don't understand most of the comments. I liked the game. Here's what I think:
Buffon - He was solid, as usual. Nothing he could have done about the goal.
Grygera - He had a decent game. He set up Nedved for the goal and had a few other good combinations with Camoranesi. He was OK in defense. That said, I still think he is a mediocre player.
Molinaro - Mediocre at best.
Melberg - He is a good defender and he played well. He made two mistakes against Gilardino, but let's not forget that we have Chiellini. I think he would be a great back up DC.
Legrottaglie - I think he had a great. I liked him very much, especially when he closed down Gilardino in the second half. Chiellini - Legro partnership will be good I think.
Marchisio - Not bad, but I don't think that's enough for a team like Juve. Can't see him in the 1st 11 if all players are fit.
Poulsen - He was OK and despite all the bad comments about him, I think he'll turn out to be an excellent asset. I though he was something of a Gattuso player, but he seems to pass well, too. Reminds me of Tacchinardi. Not as good as him, but still our best DM.
Camoranesi - He is one of our best players, so one would expect more from him.
Nedved - Even at 36 still very good.
Amauri - I expected more from him. The only really good move was when he shot 2 min from time. Missed a good opportunity in the first half.
De Ceglie - I really, really hope he would play well so we can play him instead of Molinaro, but tonight he was even worse than Molinaro. I hope he'll improve.
and that brings us to..
Alex - I can't understand all those negative comments about him. He had a good first half in my opinion. Yes, he missed a great chance, but lets not forget he created it. Apart from that he gave several really good passes and created 2-3 opportunities for us, unfortunately all missed. His second half performance was bad, though. Held up the ball far too much.
I liked how Juve looked tonight, especially in defense. In my opinion we outclassed them and deserved the 3 points. The second half they had the initiative, but apart from the 2 individual displays by Gila did they really have any chances? I don't think so.
What actually concerned me were the sibstitutions. Ranieri really should have subbed Ale in the second half. He ran out of fuel. But most importantly, IAQUINTA for CAMORANESI in 89th minute???? What was he thinking. I was still laughing at that sub when they scored and then I was more like crying. I really have absolutely no explanation. Maybe if we had another tall defensive player in the box ( i don't know the other unused subs) we would not have let a goal in.
Anyway, I am disappointed, but lets not forget that all the big teams lost points and we had the most difficult game and we made a good display. We are definitely title contenders.
Buffon - He was solid, as usual. Nothing he could have done about the goal.
Grygera - He had a decent game. He set up Nedved for the goal and had a few other good combinations with Camoranesi. He was OK in defense. That said, I still think he is a mediocre player.
Molinaro - Mediocre at best.
Melberg - He is a good defender and he played well. He made two mistakes against Gilardino, but let's not forget that we have Chiellini. I think he would be a great back up DC.
Legrottaglie - I think he had a great. I liked him very much, especially when he closed down Gilardino in the second half. Chiellini - Legro partnership will be good I think.
Marchisio - Not bad, but I don't think that's enough for a team like Juve. Can't see him in the 1st 11 if all players are fit.
Poulsen - He was OK and despite all the bad comments about him, I think he'll turn out to be an excellent asset. I though he was something of a Gattuso player, but he seems to pass well, too. Reminds me of Tacchinardi. Not as good as him, but still our best DM.
Camoranesi - He is one of our best players, so one would expect more from him.
Nedved - Even at 36 still very good.
Amauri - I expected more from him. The only really good move was when he shot 2 min from time. Missed a good opportunity in the first half.
De Ceglie - I really, really hope he would play well so we can play him instead of Molinaro, but tonight he was even worse than Molinaro. I hope he'll improve.
and that brings us to..
Alex - I can't understand all those negative comments about him. He had a good first half in my opinion. Yes, he missed a great chance, but lets not forget he created it. Apart from that he gave several really good passes and created 2-3 opportunities for us, unfortunately all missed. His second half performance was bad, though. Held up the ball far too much.
I liked how Juve looked tonight, especially in defense. In my opinion we outclassed them and deserved the 3 points. The second half they had the initiative, but apart from the 2 individual displays by Gila did they really have any chances? I don't think so.
What actually concerned me were the sibstitutions. Ranieri really should have subbed Ale in the second half. He ran out of fuel. But most importantly, IAQUINTA for CAMORANESI in 89th minute???? What was he thinking. I was still laughing at that sub when they scored and then I was more like crying. I really have absolutely no explanation. Maybe if we had another tall defensive player in the box ( i don't know the other unused subs) we would not have let a goal in.
Anyway, I am disappointed, but lets not forget that all the big teams lost points and we had the most difficult game and we made a good display. We are definitely title contenders.