[Serie A] Cagliari - Juventus (13 Viewers)

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Stuart
Why is it that when Del Piero is struggling he's subbed before I can say "Zalayeta" but it takes 75 minutes to replace an invisible David Trezeguet?

Trezeguet is a striker, he's on the pitch to score goals. Nothing else. IMO you must leave players like that on the field, cause suddenly they shine and seconds later I declare them gods.

king Ale
come on Andy..he said a REGULAR starter.actually he doesn't deserve to play all the matches from the first minute until the end.it's better for Zlatan himself.IMO a rotation system(Alex-Zlatan-Trez)would be really nice.

Honestly I think he do deserve it. Such a great debut, as i said before is really rare. So you got:
ADP: totally out of form. And it feels like he's skill just slipped throw the window. He made like a double heel recently and an avarage header wich has been the "ADP-should-play"-campainers best arguments, great stuff.

Trez: just came back from an injury, need some playing time.

Zlatan: Getting more and more confidence and makin more and more right decisions. Got more potential than both and he proves it the more he is on the pitch.

 

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[Bjerknes]

++ [ originally posted by Sergio ] ++

Move Zambrotta up to midfield on the wing, preferrably on the left side, and get a true defensive minded LB to replace Zambo, and put Neddy on the bench. Jankulovski would have been an ideal target, but unfortunately, it looks as if he's headed to Milan in the summer.


Allright, NedHeads, fire away. I'm ready for you

Sergio, I really do not think that it would be a good idea to bench our most dynamic midfielder. I think the problem with Nedved is that he is getting old and that he can no longer skip past defenders on the wing. Moreover, Nedved is so restricted because of Capello's tactics, as he must always back-track to cover the left side of defense. I must say Nedved is more effective playing behind the strikers, but its not possible for him to play there now because Capello likes the current formation and will stick with it. Others have suggested that Nedved play central midfield along with Emerson, however IMO that will restrict Nedved even more than on the wing. Although playing cental midfield will be easier for him because he won't have to run as much, but its not like he will be able to attack all the time. For now I guess the only thing to do is keep Nedved where he is.

I believe that the weak spot in midfield is right next to Emerson. Blasi lacks talent in the offensive aspects of his game, and he is not at all creative and his passes are too predictable. For this 4-4-2 to work we must have two central midfielders that can attack and defend with equal effectiveness, not just one complete midfielder and another who can only tackle. I would give almost anything to have a player like Pirlo or Maniche play along side Emerson, as they would add that creative spark and passing range to the team. The fact of the matter is we lack creativity; Nedved is not creative at all, Emerson does little to calm the side with his akward movements, and Camoranesi just gives the ball away too much. If Olivera would learn how to tackle like Blasi we would have a better option in midfield, but he's not ready for Juve just yet. Anyways the problem is we are using the right system with the players we have however its still not effective enough in attack. All we need is a natural playmaker and we will look much better.

Edit: A natural playmaker like Rosicky who can also play central midfield.

 

[KB824]

That's exactly the situation.


Pound-for-Pound, Zlatan is the most talented player on this team, and he needs to play.

He makes his mistakes, he holds theball too long at times, but someone of his talent and stamina, and physical condition cannot be taken off the pitch.

Again, it is my belief that we will really start to see the benefits of this as we head down the stretch.

EDIT- because of my shareware software running, sometimes myty ing wilook lik e th is

 

[KB824]

Andy, I don't consider a midfielder who seems to be running around like a chicken with his head cut off as "dynamic". At this point in his career, I see it as compensating for a declining skillset.


However, it is your opinon, and I respect that.

Althoough I am still of the belief that Zambrotta as our LM, and a true LB would help to compensate for a lack of creativity in central midfield.

Best of both worlds, neddy could come in as a substitute for 20-25 minutes a match and switch to last years 4-3-1-2 tactic to give this squad a much needed change of pace.

 

[Bjerknes]

++ [ originally posted by Sergio ] ++
I have a question.


Zlatan is one of my favorite players in the world, possibly my favorite, along with Maldini, and Christiano Ronaldo.

What I don't get is everyone saying that he's so arrogant, and his ego is so inflated, thinking that he's a great striker.


However, in all the transcripts I've read over the past year since his arrival, to me, he's been nothing but humble and very respectful of everyone in the orginization.

I have not read one article, quote, nor heard on sound byte stating that he is great, only that he WANTS to be great. I don't take that as being cocky, nor arrogant. I take it as being determined and driven. You can't have all your football players be monotone robots with your "yes sir, no sir" type of vanilla responses to questions.

He's colorful, yes. Humorous at times but he has not been disrespectful, insubordinate, or anything but a model citizen.


Does he hold the ball too much at times? Yes he does. But he is also being asked to do quite a bit in this type of attack that capello has out there, especially since there are really no creative midfielders on this squad to speak of.

Considering that this is his first full year in Serie A, at the age of 23, with all the expectations that have been put on him, considering his strike partner's injuries(Trez) or lack of form(Del Piero), I think that he's been doing amazingly well this season, and I would hate to think what this team's record would be WITHOUT Zlatan in there all year.

THANK YOU. Somebody who finally makes sense of the situation. The only people who make up stuff about Zlatan are the fans who only care about Del Piero.

 

[Bjerknes]

++ [ originally posted by Sergio ] ++
Andy, I don't consider a midfielder who seems to be running around like a chicken with his head cut off as "dynamic". At this point in his career, I see it as compensating for a declining skillset.


However, it is your opinon, and I respect that.

Althoough I am still of the belief that Zambrotta as our LM, and a true LB would help to compensate for a lack of creativity in central midfield.

Best of both worlds, neddy could come in as a substitute for 20-25 minutes a match and switch to last years 4-3-1-2 tactic to give this squad a much needed change of pace.

I know, its a stretch, but Nedved is our most dynamic midfielder. When I say dynamic I mean he excells in all aspects of his game and saves our asses countless times. Remember, he has won more than a couple games for us all by his lonesome, like in the matches against Bayern and Ajax. He is not as good as he used to be, but he's still our most talent midfielder.

Having said that, I would rather have a natural midfielder in the team now, since, Nedved seems to be falling off a bit and we need more creativity.

 

[Max]

I don't like Del Piero .

EDIT: I meant that for the previous post.

 

[KB824]

Like I said, Neddy can be a great change-of-pace type of player, especially late in matches when he can come on and run wild for 25 minutes.


90 minutes though?? Not anymore unfortunately, but it happens to everyone.

edit- yes, he has saved Juve's side against team sl ike Bayern and Ajax, but keep in mind, he's playing against teams whose systems are looser,thereby allowing for more space. He doesn't have that luxury in Serie A.

 

[peckface]

First of all, you are such a talented writer Sergio, I rarely read forum posts so intense.

I agree with both of you. We lack that little extra in midfield, the link between the forwards and the midfield. I'm suprised its not mentioned much in the press because its obvious to me.
I can't even imagine benching Neddy, even though I think your right. He's been such an inegral part of the team the past years, and hei, DP has been out of form for 5 years now and he still plays...

 

[Stu]

Zlatan is arrogant. His celebration against Livorno had I am the best written all over it. Obviously he isn't going to say things like that in interviews, now would he? Anyone remember the time when he was on international duty with Sweden and took a penalty that wasn't his to take? He decided that he was going to take it and so he did. When he scored he celebrated by himself, the other Swedish players walked away. Zlatan has an attitude, there's no two ways about it. He's not as bad as Cassano, but he is cocky, though I don't mind him being cocky if he keeps performing like he has been.

 

[peckface]

Dude, Larsson told him to.

 

[Stu]

That's not what I read, but anyways, he's still cocky. Don't get me wrong though, I like a little bit of arrogance. It's fine by me as long as he doesn't take it too far, but there's no getting away from the fact that he thinks overly high of himself.

 

[KB824]

++ [ originally posted by Stuart ] ++
Zlatan is arrogant. His celebration against Livorno had I am the best written all over it. Obviously he isn't going to say things like that in interviews, now would he? Anyone remember the time when he was on international duty with Sweden and took a penalty that wasn't his to take? He decided that he was going to take it and so he did. When he scored he celebrated by himself, the other Swedish players walked away. Zlatan has an attitude, there's no two ways about it. He's not as bad as Cassano, but he is cocky, though I don't mind him being cocky if he keeps performing like he has been.

he might be arrogant compared to Del Piero, but then again, my puppy is more arrogant than Alex.


that being said, its pretty undeniable that not only is he the most talented player on the squad, but he is extremely integral in this type of system that cappello has.

 

[Bjerknes]

So right now you would say take Nedved off the pitch entirely and move Zambrotta up to leftwing, then put the newly-acquired Jankulovski at left-back. Sorry but I cannot really agree with this because there goes our scoring threat from midfield and if any midfielder is going to be replaced its either going to be Blasi or Camoranesi. Nedved is not that useless yet.

 

[KB824]

++ [ originally posted by pecker ] ++
First of all, you are such a talented writer Sergio, I rarely read forum posts so intense.

Well, thank you.


Although I usually save my better stuff for other threads. Andy can attest to that

 

[Bjerknes]

++ [ originally posted by Sergio ] ++


Well, thank you.


Although I usually save my better stuff for other threads. Andy can attest to that

Thats an understatement, however I like your post on Zlatan in here. That was needed.

 

[KB824]

++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++
So right now you would say take Nedved off the pitch entirely and move Zambrotta up to leftwing, then put the newly-acquired Jankulovski at left-back. Sorry but I cannot really agree with this because there goes our scoring threat from midfield and if any midfielder is going to be replaced its either going to be Blasi or Camoranesi. Nedved is not that useless yet.

Is Nedved more of a scoring threat than Zambo??


Perhaps.


However, Zambo is a better all around player, is more consistent, and is a fantastic crosser, absolutely flawless in his timing and touch and his consistency from the left side would open things up for the strikers, and he wouldn't have to drift to the middle of the pitch to make an impact, thereby tightening up our defence even more. Put a true LB back there, and it could even allow Emerson to push forward a little more.

 

[Zlatan är Kung]

Yea Expressen and all magazines says Larsson and Lagerback told him too. Oh and let's not forget the goal he scored against Italia: The famous Backheel!! wooooowww. I was hugging the tele. When Zlatty was in Ajax he had Pienaar with him. These 2 were unstopable!!! Now zlatan is all alone. Notice when he gets the ball at least 3 defenders need to attack him. And he HAS to Keep the ball and try to go past these defenders, because most of the time Trezeguet is just standing there hoping zlatan can dribble past allll those defenders by himself. I mean Zlatan is good by he's not God!...yet....

 

[Bjerknes]

++ [ originally posted by Sergio ] ++



Is Nedved more of a scoring threat than Zambo??


Perhaps.


However, Zambo is a better all around player, is more consistent, and is a fantastic crosser, absolutely flawless in his timing and touch and his consistency from the left side would open things up for the strikers, and he wouldn't have to drift to the middle of the pitch to make an impact, thereby tightening up our defence even more. Put a true LB back there, and it could even allow Emerson to push forward a little more.

Why don't we just move Zambrotta on the right side of midfield then and keep Nedved in the team? Surely Nedved is a better player than Camoranesi and Zambrotta could then control his old position once again.

Until we find a new LB all this is all mere speculation anyway.

 

[KB824]

++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++


Why don't we just move Zambrotta on the right side of midfield then and keep Nedved in the team? Surely Nedved is a better player than Camoranesi and Zambrotta could then control his old position once again.

Until we find a new LB all this is all mere speculation anyway.

However, Camo has been far more consistent this season than Nedved, and in the matches that I've seen, a lot of the movement and attack happens to start from the right side of the pitch.

Zambo is so good that you could put him anywhere on the pitch and he would excel, so moving him to LM wouldn't be a problem at all.

Yes, this is all speculation, but if a creative midfielder was truly the salve to whatever ails this team, then maresca would have never been sold. His lack of defensive fortitude is one of the main reasons he was shipped out in the first place.