Serie A: AC Milan vs Juventus [12/01/2007] (33 Viewers)

pitbull

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Jul 26, 2007
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welcome zaim. :pint:

Its always nice to play against Milan, especially at San Siro, hope our lads will put in great performance and rape these uncles in discovery channel style. :p Its time for fighters not artists so i guess Ranieri will leave Tiago, Palla and DP on bench, so they can come on later. I predict 0:1 at HT and 1:4 at FT. :weee:
 

ReBeL

The Jackal
Jan 14, 2005
22,871
Showdown at San Siro


I started working for this website and Calcio Italia magazine halfway through the 2004-05 season, a campaign which would eventually be deemed virtually meaningless by the Calciopoli scandal. I still see it as a Juventus title success – regardless of what the record books may say – and the main reason for that was the Bianconeri’s stunning win against Milan in Week 35.

Many of you may not remember the clash, but it was a belter. With both sides level on points and well clear of third-place Inter going into the game, it truly was a Scudetto showdown.

Now, I must state that I’m not a fan of either Juve or Milan, nor do I particularly dislike either team. So what I had was a game which I was a completely impartial observer of, between two of the greatest sides the world has ever seen and with the stakes almost as high as they come. I say almost, simply because they were higher in the past in the form of the 2003 Champions League Final.

The goal which settled the match was a cracker too, with Alex Del Piero – who was in and out of the line-up that seaon due to his difficult relationship with Coach Fabio Capello – setting up David Trezeguet’s header with the most audacious of overhead kicks. Milan tried in vain to equalise, but their title hopes went up in smoke that day and the Rossoneri haven’t come close to a League title since.

Heading into this weekend’s clash, the most noticeable thing for me was how little Milan’s line-up has changed in the past two and a half years. This was their side for the game on May 8, 2005: Dida; Cafu, Nesta, Stam, Maldini; Gattuso, Pirlo (Serginho 46), Seedorf (Rui Costa 66); Kakà; Shevchenko, Tomasson (Inzaghi 56)

Of that team, only Jaap Stam, Manuel Rui Costa, Andriy Shevchenko and Jon Dahl Tomasson have moved on, which is quite remarkable. The Juventus line-up which will take to the field on Saturday will be virtually unrecognisable from the 2005 encounter, thanks largely to the Calciopoli scandal, except for the main protagonists of that victory – Gigi Buffon, Del Piero and Trezeguet. What odds on that trio wrecking another Serie A season for Milan? Because failure to win on Saturday will certainly rule the Diavolo out of the title reckoning, if that’s not already the case…

By Richard Godden
 

Dukoski

Moggi's Admirer and Fan
May 1, 2006
392
Showdown at San Siro


I started working for this website and Calcio Italia magazine halfway through the 2004-05 season, a campaign which would eventually be deemed virtually meaningless by the Calciopoli scandal. I still see it as a Juventus title success – regardless of what the record books may say – and the main reason for that was the Bianconeri’s stunning win against Milan in Week 35.

Many of you may not remember the clash, but it was a belter. With both sides level on points and well clear of third-place Inter going into the game, it truly was a Scudetto showdown.

Now, I must state that I’m not a fan of either Juve or Milan, nor do I particularly dislike either team. So what I had was a game which I was a completely impartial observer of, between two of the greatest sides the world has ever seen and with the stakes almost as high as they come. I say almost, simply because they were higher in the past in the form of the 2003 Champions League Final.

The goal which settled the match was a cracker too, with Alex Del Piero – who was in and out of the line-up that seaon due to his difficult relationship with Coach Fabio Capello – setting up David Trezeguet’s header with the most audacious of overhead kicks. Milan tried in vain to equalise, but their title hopes went up in smoke that day and the Rossoneri haven’t come close to a League title since.

Heading into this weekend’s clash, the most noticeable thing for me was how little Milan’s line-up has changed in the past two and a half years. This was their side for the game on May 8, 2005: Dida; Cafu, Nesta, Stam, Maldini; Gattuso, Pirlo (Serginho 46), Seedorf (Rui Costa 66); Kakà; Shevchenko, Tomasson (Inzaghi 56)

Of that team, only Jaap Stam, Manuel Rui Costa, Andriy Shevchenko and Jon Dahl Tomasson have moved on, which is quite remarkable. The Juventus line-up which will take to the field on Saturday will be virtually unrecognisable from the 2005 encounter, thanks largely to the Calciopoli scandal, except for the main protagonists of that victory – Gigi Buffon, Del Piero and Trezeguet. What odds on that trio wrecking another Serie A season for Milan? Because failure to win on Saturday will certainly rule the Diavolo out of the title reckoning, if that’s not already the case…

By Richard Godden
Having in mind that match,when we have one of the best teams in our history and in my opinion maybe the best team in Europe at that time and we did not win the champions league,even a hate Capellos tactics with a million defencieve midfielders,I must admit that he put a right tactics on Milan.We were everywhere at the field.Especcially,but not less important is that whenever Kaka and Pirlo touched the ball we have at least two or three players around them and they were completely disconnected.I want that kind of tactics against these two fine players tonight.No one on one keeping, but full pressing on them .We are capable of that.
If we succeed in that we can win easily.
Forza magic Juve.
 

Stu

Senior Member
Jul 14, 2002
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I wouldn't say Palladino's terrible as a winger. Far from it actually. He has pace, trickery and a good cross.
 

Brixity

Senior Member
Feb 8, 2006
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Possible formations according to tuttomercato:

MILAN(4-3-2-1): 1 Dida, 44 Oddo, 13 Nesta, 4 Kaladze, 3 Maldini, 8 Gattuso, 21 Pirlo, 23 Ambrosini, 22 Kakà, 10 Seedorf, 11 Gilardino.

A disposizione: 16 Kalac, 2 Cafu, 25 Bonera, 27 Serginho, 32 Brocchi, 20 Gourcuff, 9 F. Inzaghi.


JUVENTUS(4-4-2): 1 Buffon, 5 Zebina, 33 Legrottaglie, 3 Chiellini, 28 Molinaro, 20 Palladino, 23 Nocerino, 6 C. Zanetti, 11 Nedved, 9 Iaquinta, 17 Trezeguet.

A disposizione: 12 Belardi, 19 Criscito, 7 Salihamidzic, 30 Tiago, 4 Almiron, 32,Marchionni, 10 Del Piero.
This is the most accurate starting line-up imo. I hope we dont try a 4-3-3 thing. Those dudes have one of, if not the strongest midfileld group around. I expect a workman type game if we are to come out with anything
 

Azzurri7

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Dec 16, 2003
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I wouldn't say Palladino's terrible as a winger. Far from it actually. He has pace, trickery and a good cross.
Maybe he isn't terrible exactly, but he's no where to be a good winger or even medium, against Inter and the other match people praised him in that position because they simply get cheated for a trick or two.

I'm not sure If he's good crosser as against Inter and the other game where he played as a winger he never tried to cross but dribble.

If we want to give him a chance either we let him play upfront or let the winger position for the ones who are capable of doing more things.
 

Stu

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Jul 14, 2002
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Guys, Milan conceeded 90% of the goals after a cross comming from the wings. This time, if the info's correct, they'll have Maldini play LB and Oddo, who made so many mistakes defensively this year, will be RB.

With 4-3-3 we're losing our main advantage and that's the superiority we have on the wings. No need to change tactics, only replace Camo directly with Marchionni or Salihamidzic. We need Noce-Zanetti in the middle and we must take an advantage of Milan's weakneses on the wings, where our wingers will get the help of our full backs.

.......................Buffon......................
.......Zebina-Legro-Chiellini-Molinaro....
................Nocerino-Zanetti...........
Marchionni(Sali)....................Nedved

........Del Piero or Iaquinta - Trez............
Playing 4-3-3 doesn't take away from our flank attack imo. Iaquinta will give us width on the right and Nedved will do his thing on the left with Del Piero moving from side to side to support them. Marchionni and Salihamidzic don't offer the creative threat that Camoranesi does so I disagree with trying to replace him directly. As far as I'm concerned Vincenzo and DP are better options. If we do replace Camo directly it should be with Palladino.
 

Stu

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Jul 14, 2002
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Maybe he isn't terrible exactly, but he's no where to be a good winger or even medium, against Inter and the other match people praised him in that position because they simply get cheated for a trick or two.

I'm not sure If he's good crosser as against Inter and the other game where he played as a winger he never tried to cross but dribble.

If we want to give him a chance either we let him play upfront or let the winger position for the ones who are capable of doing more things.
Have you forgotten his cross that led to the goal against Inter already? He skinned a defender and put in the perfect far post cross for Iaquinta. He was excellent as a right winger against Torino as well. As a matter of fact it's his play in wide positions that caused Donadoni to select him for the NT.

You say that we should leave that position to our natural wingers who are capable of doing more but Palladino has much more to offer than a tame Salihamidzic or an unfit Marchionni.
 

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