Serie A 2024-25 (64 Viewers)

[Badass J Elkann]

Violent conduct in serie A is mostly punished with 2-4 matches suspensions, depending on the severity of the incident.
One match ban is an exception. It's the Serie A disciplinary committee which decides about these things. I saw the Gimenez incident and I am not sure how did that deserve only 1 match suspension. It wasn't different from what Yildiz and Kalulu did and that kind of foul is pretty much always a 2 match suspension. Milan were favored here.

I'd have said that it has something to do with the season finishing in the next round, but a Bologna player who got a red card yesterday got a 2 match suspension for violent conduct, and that foul wasn't worse than Gimenez's.

I bet var didn't use satellite imagery to judge Milan's red card though

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[s4tch]

i probably posted it when it was tweeted originally. no comment, the numbers speak for themselves in this case



anyone into statistics know what the gaussian distribution is. now look at this:

 

[Siamak]

 

[Alen]

i probably posted it when it was tweeted originally. no comment, the numbers speak for themselves in this case



anyone into statistics know what the gaussian distribution is. now look at this:

I already told you that this is stats manipulation.
Yes, indeed, in 2023-24 Inter were receiving less yellow cards per foul than anyone else. Accumulated, for the last 4 years (actually 3.5 years, because he stopped in December 2024), they are also on top, but season for season Inter were the "winners" in this regard only in 1 of the 4 seasons, and mostly because they had such great numbers in 23-24.
That's like team A getting 5, 5, 5, 5 penalties in the last 4 seasons, and team B getting 3, 3, 12, 3 penalties in the same period, and then I claim that team B has been favored the most in the last 4 seasons.

And I don't think that this parameter is a proof of anything.

Napoli this year are the team with the least number of yellow cards (46, compared to Inter's 52) and the only team without a red card.
https://www.whoscored.com/regions/1.../23490/teamstatistics/italy-serie-a-2024-2025

Also, they're fouling 10.8 times per match, which is the second lowest amount, after Roma's 10.7.
https://www.whoscored.com/regions/1.../23490/teamstatistics/italy-serie-a-2024-2025

As for fouls per yellow, Inter made 407 fouls for which they received 52 yellows. That's 7.8 fouls for a yellow, or 0.12 yellows for a foul. Napoli made 396 fouls and got 46 yellows. That's 8.6 fouls per yellow, or 0.11 yellows for a foul.
Bologna are actually the most "favored" team this year with 9.5 fouls per yellow.

Despite these favorable stats for Napoli, which will probably be used one day by some Inter fan to "show" how Inter were robbed of a scudetto, I would never say that the refs fixed the league for Napoli to win it.

 

[s4tch]

I already told you that this is stats manipulation.

if you extend the timeline to 30 years you'll probably get the same results for most teams across the board

the guy manipulated nothing. he took the data and actually analyzed it. and i'll stop here.

 

[Alen]

the guy manipulated nothing.

He manipulated you. And some others too. That was his goal.

You're pretty good at recognizing manipulation. Excellent even. You're showing it every day in the Murica and Russia/Ukraine or European Affairs thread. I really don't get why don't you recognize it here.

 

[s4tch]

cheerleaders once again at it:

remember the last time they personally attacked any referee? it probably was orsato for the missing 2nd yellow to pjanic in 2018 lol

now guida made the right choice. yet here we are

 

[Alen]

cheerleaders once again at it:

Nah, I just find stats manipulation very easy to spot. That guy did exactly what I'm accusing him of.

Manipulating stats is easy. Check this. I am not lying, I am telling the truth and showing you real stats. But I am manipulating.

Penalties in favor 2012/13-2022/2023
INTER BLATANTLY DISFAVORED
Milan 98 (11+5+11+7+12+6+4+9+20+8+5)
Napoli 92 (9+9+11+8+6+8+4+5+8+14+10)
Juve 88 (9+4+11+9+3+8+8+14+10+6+6)
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Inter 73 (7+1+5+3+5+7+9+11+9+11+5)


Penalties in favor 2020/21-2024/25
JUVE BLATANTLY DISFAVORED
Milan 49 (20+8+5+8+8)
Inter 48 (9+11+5+14+9)
Napoli 47 (8+14+10+10+5)
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Juve 32 (10+6+6+5+5)

Penalties in favor 2015/16-2019/20
NAPOLI BLATANTLY DISFAVORED
Juve 42 (9+3+8+8+14)
Inter 35 (3+5+7+9+11)
Milan 38 (7+12+6+4+9)
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Napoli 31 (8+6+8+4+5)

You just handpick the stats or the time period, don't mention the stats that refute your point, and you can prove everything.

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

Gentle reminder that Orsolini was ours.

 

[The Quazis]

Gentle reminder that Orsolini was ours.

He's mediocre at best.

 

[Alen]

Gentle reminder that Orsolini was ours.

When we sold him we had Ronaldo, Dybala, Pjanic, Higuain, Mandzukic, Cuadrado etc.
There was no room for him in that star-studded Juve, and the expectations were that once those stars left, we'd bring in others of the same caliber. .
Not a single soul could’ve foreseen a collapse this massive, or that we'd one day be debating whether Orsolini is good enough to start for Juve.

 

[cimenk]

Milan Media really use their power to put pressure on the referee for the final day. As Goal rarely make articles about Serie A, there is this

Read the article, it just the about the incident in the match like Lazio's penalty from handball, Dissalowed last minute goal which clearly offside. And Lazio 1st goal which is clearly onside after VAR check. No other explanation in the article

 

[Alen]

Milan Media really use their power to put pressure on the referee for the final day. As Goal rarely make articles about Serie A, there is this

Read the article, it just the about the incident in the match like Lazio's penalty from handball, Dissalowed last minute goal which clearly offside. And Lazio 1st goal which is clearly onside after VAR check. No other explanation in the article

Questionable officiating : I don't know what else happened in that match, but both calls for the Lazio goals were 100% correct.
If Inter are genuinely protesting, it's beyond pathetic and shameless.

Though Serie A are sometimes asking for it. You don't assign a ref or VAR from Naples to Inter-Lazio, or a ref/VAR from Milano to Parma-Napoli. Just appoint a competent official with no regional ties to either team. Instead, they’ve handed ammunition to the conspiracy theorists and the loudest fools in the room.

Sometimes I think they’re doing this on purpose. They want controversy because they know Italians feed on it. The more controversy, the more airtime, the more sold newspapers, the more outrage.

 

[Alex-444]

yeah it was the worst kept secret. watford fan my ass

moise wft lol

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[s4tch]

some history and fun facts

also cagliari scored this beauty against our next opponent:

 

[Stevie]

Goal of the season

 

[radekas]

How can Cagliari do this while Juventus is full of offensive impotents?

 

[s4tch]

okay that's not nice from the journalist

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

Qualification Scenarios

Juventus Qualifies if:
• They win against Venezia (finishing with 70 points).
• They draw, and both Roma and Lazio fail to win.
• They lose, and both Roma and Lazio lose.

Roma Qualifies if:
• They win, and Juventus draws or loses.
• They draw, and Juventus loses, while Lazio does not win. 

Lazio Qualifies if:
• They win, and both Juventus and Roma lose.
• They win, Juventus loses, and Roma doesn’t win.

 

[campionesidd]

Thank you Tuz for getting me through this horrendous season. At least you guys made it some what entertaining.