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Juventino[RUS]

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oh really, were losing to salernitana or udinese obviously NOT targets?

also, since securing cl place was the target set for allegri, then he's suddenly doing a good job?
This became a target after he fucked up first part of the season.

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Allegri’s bosses literally have come out and said the goals set for year one of this new project were top 4 and CL Rof16.

I guess you agree Allegri met the goals set for him and didn’t bottle the season :lol3: @s4tch
Allegri’s bosses literally have come out and said the goals set for year one of this new project were top 4 and CL Rof16.

I guess you agree Allegri met the goals set for him and didn’t bottle the season :lol3: @s4tch
will you eve stop lying? jesus christ.
“Max Allegri’s project is really valid, he has brought back solidity and we have a long-term project with him. We know what we want to obtain, we knew it would have been challenging this season, but having regrets about the current campaign is encouraging for the future.
Judgments would have been very different had we won against Inter. This makes us think, given that our duty is to make assessments at the end of the season.
Every trophy counts,” Agnelli continued. “Sports have a crucial rule: you always start from the beginning. The most important trophy is the Serie A title because it shows the best team of the season. The one with more appeal is the Champions League, but every trophy counts.”

Obviously the goal was scudetto + 1/4 of the ucl, Max has fucked up things in the 1st part of the season, then the board has decided to sign him Vlahovic and Zakaria to improve things and after the loss against villarreal and Inter it became obvious that top4 finish and coppa is the main objectives for the end of this season
 

s4tch

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This became a target after he fucked up first part of the season.
based on what? would you call yourself a liar if you weren't able to provide proof? or do you admit that you pulled it out of your ass?

again, answer the question on italiano: how come he gets a pass from you despite ruining their season with 4 straight losses, 2 against clearly, vastly inferior teams?
 

Juventino[RUS]

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based on what? would you call yourself a liar if you weren't able to provide proof? or do you admit that you pulled it out of your ass?

again, answer the question on italiano: how come he gets a pass from you despite ruining their season with 4 straight losses, 2 against clearly, vastly inferior teams?
Can you read?
“Max Allegri’s project is really valid, he has brought back solidity and we have a long-term project with him. We know what we want to obtain, we knew it would have been challenging this season, but having regrets about the current campaign is encouraging for the future.
Judgments would have been very different had we won against Inter. This makes us think, given that our duty is to make assessments at the end of the season.
Every trophy counts,” Agnelli continued. “Sports have a crucial rule: you always start from the beginning. The most important trophy is the Serie A title because it shows the best team of the season. The one with more appeal is the Champions League, but every trophy counts.”

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based on what? would you call yourself a liar if you weren't able to provide proof? or do you admit that you pulled it out of your ass?

again, answer the question on italiano: how come he gets a pass from you despite ruining their season with 4 straight losses, 2 against clearly, vastly inferior teams?
He's already overperforming with Fiorentina's squad that he has.
Hard to find any quotes from Commisso about this season but based on what he said back then he is more than a happy with overall Fiorentina's perfomance.
"It's only right that I remind them that when I took over, Fiorentina were in 16th place and in one year I took them to 10th position," he added.
"No other foreign owners, after buying one of the most important clubs in Serie A, managed to improve their level by six places in the first year.
I guess He will be more than a happy with 5-8 finish that they still can achieve plus getting 75m from Vlahovic's transfer.
 
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s4tch

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This became a target after he fucked up first part of the season.
“Judgments would have been very different had we won against Inter.
unless you somehow think that the 31. matchday qualifies as "the first part of the season"', you're lying.
also, agnelli didn't talk about targets at the beginning of the season, he talked about judgements. i'll make it easier to understand: targets =/= judgements.

so you're either a liar for a false claim or an idiot for a completely misinterpreted quote. pick one.

He's already overperforming with Fiorentina's squad that he has.
so losing to venezia, empoli, torino, salernitana or udinese (4-0 at home, at the crucial part of the season) is overperforming.

you don't have to pick one. you're both.
 

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Arrivabene:
The goal of this season was the transition to the round of 16 (in the Champions League) and the Champions final for the next one. We reached the first goal, we proceeded game after game. The elimination was absolutely unpleasant, but our plans don’t change one iota. One chapter closes and another opens, the club is focused on a three-year-plan, a three-year-project, in which – we all have it outlined clearly – the financial aspect must coexist with the sporting one, the accounts with the results of the pitch. We have never said anything different.”


Rus in ruins :lol:
 

Juventino[RUS]

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unless you somehow think that the 31. matchday qualifies as "the first part of the season"', you're lying.
also, agnelli didn't talk about targets at the beginning of the season, he talked about judgements. i'll make it easier to understand: targets =/= judgements.

so you're either a liar for a false claim or an idiot for a completely misinterpreted quote. pick one.



so losing, to venezia, empoli, torino, salernitana or udinese (4-0 at home, at the crucial part of the season) is overperforming.

you don't have to pick one. you're both.
Yes, despit their last heavy losses their overall position in the league has been improved.

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Arrivabene:
The goal of this season was the transition to the round of 16 (in the Champions League) and the Champions final for the next one. We reached the first goal, we proceeded game after game. The elimination was absolutely unpleasant, but our plans don’t change one iota. One chapter closes and another opens, the club is focused on a three-year-plan, a three-year-project, in which – we all have it outlined clearly – the financial aspect must coexist with the sporting one, the accounts with the results of the pitch. We have never said anything different.”


Rus in ruins :lol:
Yes and he have said in FEBRUARY when things gone wrong already and that's exactly what i've said, he didn't say this in August or September.
 
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s4tch

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Yes, their overall position in the league has been improved.
you're lying again, since their squad was strengthened, a better league performance doesn't mean that they are overachieving. you either don't understand the words you're using once again or you are simply a blatant liar.

also, last season we qualified for the cl 20 minutes before the whole season ended, due to a goal by a verona player against napoli, so that was something completely out of our hands. and now you're saying lying that we didn't improve.

lie more, rus. post some heatmaps. keep lying.
 

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Nedved said to Sky Sports as quoted by Tutto Sport: “it makes no sense to talk about contracts and the future, we have to think about our minimum goal which is fourth place, we have to stay focused. “There is also the semi-final of the Italian Cup: these are minimum goals but they are goals of the club.
You literally just proved my point :rofl:
 

Juventino[RUS]

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you're lying again, since their squad was strengthened, a better league performance doesn't mean that they are overachieving. you either don't understand the words you're using once again or you are simply a blatant liar.

also, last season we qualified for the cl 20 minutes before the whole season ended, due to a goal by a verona player against napoli, so that was something completely out of our hands. and now you're saying lying that we didn't improve.

lie more, rus. post some heatmaps. keep lying.
That is exactly what there are doing. From being 16th to 10th and now to 5th-8th place finish. This is called making a progress.
 

s4tch

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No, i've proven my point that the set of objectives was changed during the season after fucked up start.
where's the part when nedved talks about any changes of those goals compared to the beginning of the season? or you're just lying again?

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That is exactly what there are doing. From being 16th to 10th and now to 5th-8th place finish. This is called making a progress.
once again, i'll type slowly, and promise me to read slowly:

p r o g r e s s =/= o v e r a c h i e v i n g

better squad = better result. you lied about overachieving.
 

Juventino[RUS]

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where's the part when nedved talks about any changes of those goals compared to the beginning of the season? or you're just lying again?
None of them were asked about the objectives that were set to Allegri before the season start. Why? Because even dummy of the year like you understands that the goal was scudetto + 1/4 of the ucl but because of the fucked up start they had to make adjustments and because of 4 year project they won't punish and sack Allegri, he will stay here for another season.
 

maxi

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Our goal for next year is the champions league final?:lol: Wow looks like the management really overrate Allegrosaurus.

Ill bookmark this one for the lols next year when we crash out in the ro16 to Marseille.
 
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