Sebastian Giovinco (46 Viewers)

[Bjerknes]

Andy, the best thing to measure a young player who hasn't been given any time is movement, positioning and compatibility with the rest of the squad. Like Ahmed said testing on skill is silly as players like quaresma or kerlon suddenly would be regarded as the best, not only that but skill is quite a juvenial trait to hold as the most important.

Testing on skill is silly?

Then I don't know what to say then. Might as well have a bunch of Moli's running around.

I'm out.

 

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[Luca]

Testing on skill is silly?

Then I don't know what to say then. Might as well have a bunch of Moli's running around.

I'm out.

Fine if you want a team of quaresema's and ronalidinihos, tell me because I'd love to watch it fail, a team with no system is not a team. A team needs a system and players need to be able to adapt, players in top teams have a considerable amount of skill that is nessacary anyways eg Marchisio. (barring molinaro and other anomalies)

 

[Red]

While many players always get attacked for obvious reason and some time for no reason just for the case criticizing. Some how this kid always don't get as much heat even though he has been a huge disappointment. He gets knocked off the ball very easily, his passes are nothing special, doesn't track back to help in defence which leave our back line exposed badly. I do think he is way overrated by most of our fans, and I don't see anything special about him. He is a good player, but has no potential what so ever to be a super star or world beater. And please let's stop comparing him to Del piero, because at 22 Alex was one of the best in the world at his position, a reaoson why the great R. Baggio wasn't needed any more, and won us many titles. Gio is just very inconsistent and will play excellent for 20-30 min in a match then disappear for the rest of the match and the next 5 matches. there are many youngsters I'll pick ahead of him.

Slightly harsh, but not far off the mark.

Now Marchisio is being overrated, so what's the point?

Seriously now THAT GUY has shown ZERO world class abilities, whether it be passing, playmaking, vision, tackling, destroying, pace, stamina, ball winning, et cetera, SO WHAT IS IT that makes Marchisio a world class young talent?

He's a great young midfielder with all around good skills but he doesn't possess world class talent at this stage.

We all know that pretty much every young, Italian Juve player is overrated.

Giovinco has the technique, but I'm not sure he has the physique or the intelligence to make it at the top level.

Marchisio lacks Giovinco's technique, but has the ability to drive the team forward and is also fairly tactically astute.

 

[IrishZebra]

Central Midefielders usually take a while to show their true class.

I remember people talking about Roy Keane as if he was behind his teamates in the same position in terms of ability.

 

[Suns]

Diego has been off form the last games, maybe he's overrated too?

It's always like this, hopefully Giovinco has a great game soon and this criticizing will turn down a bit. There is a reason why he's getting so much praise everywhere and from what he has shown in Azurrini and last season, we should give him an honest chance to prove what kind of player he is.

Delle Alpi,

That was way to harsh, for a minute there I thought you were speaking about Tiago or Molinaro.

 

[Hust]

Hard to compare Gio to Marchisio when gio was getting 15 mins here and there for the last two years when marchi was getting consistent starts and full 90 mins.

When Gio was still trying to figure out whose shoes he was going to fill (nedved or dp) the last two years in a 442 many times playing out of his role and NOW you change the formation completely on him and expect him to excel right away.

Its gay that people are writing him off and judging him against marchi who has and will always play CM....his role never change so he never really had to adapt as much as gio who had to by playing SS, LM and AM....now someone do that to marchi and see if he excels or not.

Its not fair to Gio has he has been asked a lot in diferent roles where marchi has had only one. I stand by my judgment that both are and will be the future of juve but we need a set role and formation for Gio to grow in. People talk of dp at 22 and how good he was, well the formation and his role were set in stone and not up for debate like gio is and our current formation.


To gio's defense, he has been tossed around like a salad IMO. No one else has at his age on our team. The only criticism I have is his inconsistencies but for that I would blame on the reasons above. Sorry for the typos I'm driving and typing (again)...

Forza Gio!

 

[IrishZebra]

Gio may have had to adapt but he didn't have to play next to Tiago /Poulsen for 2 years.

 

[Hust]

Explain that zebra. Marchi had sissoko for most of that time. Both run like horses where as gio has a role where his technique is needed to win games by unlocking defenses. Both have completely different responsibilities.

 

[IrishZebra]

Explain that zebra. Marchi had sissoko for most of that time. Both run like horses where as gio has a role where his technique is needed to win games by unlocking defenses. Both have completely different responsibilities.

Yes but gio in a 4-4-2 is on his own, Marchisio was part of a two man mini-team, not always with Momo to allow him to rest easy, their job in the engine room is to drive the team forward, becoming great at that takes a lot longer than any other position except Goalkeeper, just look at Xavi and Ineista, they are light years removed from themselves in 2002. The job gio has is sopplemented by Marchisio, in fact I beilieve we've had poor AMC's performance when Marchi hasn't been there.

I'm just saying that Marchisio has come along very fast for both his age and position, Gio is getting his first full season this year, and for a Winger/AMC you'd expect him to start showing consistent class after 50 games for the club. He's only made 22 so far, and I think that June will be the time when the verdict is in.

 

[Juventine]

People talk of dp at 22 and how good he was, well the formation and his role were set in stone and not up for debate like gio is and our current formation.

If not mistaken, Del Piero (aged 19), in his first year in Juve was used mainly as a sub and spent most of the time in Primavera, played sa winger (or outside forward of a 3 forwards formation), which is not his best position, on Juve's first team and scored 5 goals in about 11-15 matches. His position was not set in stone at all.
Pirlo, who later developed into a DM, was a "trequartista" (later proved that it was not his position) at first. Even though he failed to shine in Inter in that position but at least won the title of "best player of U-21 Euro Cup" (Many here say that Giovinco was brilliant in U-21 and I've watched most of their games, I don't even recall Giovinco being decisive in any important match (of the U-21). The only matches in which he shone were against opponents like Albania, Honduras.

 

[Suns]

If not mistaken, Del Piero (aged 19), in his first year in Juve was used mainly as a sub and spent most of the time in Primavera, played sa winger (or outside forward of a 3 forwards formation), which is not his best position, on Juve's first team and scored 5 goals in about 11-15 matches. His position was not set in stone at all.
Pirlo, who later developed into a DM, was a "trequartista" (later proved that it was not his position) at first. Even though he failed to shine in Inter in that position but at least won the title of "best player of U-21 Euro Cup" (Many here say that Giovinco was brilliant in U-21 and I've watched most of their games, I don't even recall Giovinco being decisive in any important match (of the U-21). The only matches in which he shone were against opponents like Albania, Honduras.

The game against Sweden he was behind the two goals and got so much praise from the Swedish media. The games against Belarus and Serbia he was Italy's best player.

 

[MikeM]

Giovinco will always be inhibited by his size. Face it people. He has no true position. Can't play SS or wing in a 4-4-2. Can't play as an AM. He can only float around the opponent's box. He's a gifted player but I don't see him becoming influential.

 

[Bjerknes]

Fine if you want a team of quaresema's and ronalidinihos, tell me because I'd love to watch it fail, a team with no system is not a team. A team needs a system and players need to be able to adapt, players in top teams have a considerable amount of skill that is nessacary anyways eg Marchisio. (barring molinaro and other anomalies)

Last time I checked, being able to adapt is a skill...

Thank goodness you're not a scout.

 

[Bjerknes]

Giovinco will always be inhibited by his size. Face it people. He has no true position. Can't play SS or wing in a 4-4-2. Can't play as an AM. He can only float around the opponent's box. He's a gifted player but I don't see him becoming influential.

Shouldn't you then be backing his sale?

 

[Cronios]

DP should be used as a sub, he wasnt fit to start and esp not against such a pacey team.
We should start with Giovinco - Diego - Camo, since they were all available and we only had just one CF available. That would help us with our creativity issues, but would magnify out finishing issues though (esp with Amauri as the lone striker)

Ciro made a huge mistake in a critical game, this was not the game to try so many wild cards, Giovinco was the hey and Ciro dropped it...
Better luck next year, at least Gio is young enough to be there.

 

[Bianconero81]

I feel sorry for Giovinco, I really do. Too many people doubt him, and even when he performs, he is not given a sufficient run in the side to prove his worth and build on his confidence.

 

[MikeM]

Shouldn't you then be backing his sale?

I am, actually. If the price is reasonable of course.

 

[Boksic]

Give him a real run of games (he has shown enough to deserve that) on the left side of the attacking midfield three, allow him to regain his confidence and then judge him.

 

[Nicholas]

Hoping the lad gets a start tommorow. He deserves to thats for sure.

 

[Ken]

He should start, since we'll most likely start a 4-2-3-1. He's the closest to a winger we got, we simply have to use him in that formation.