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With Eder, Giacherini, Zaza, Florenzi, Darmian.. Italy has been one of the most exciting teams of Euro 2016, giving a lesson to Belgium and Spain, and competing equaly with Germany. I can't believe the new Italian generation is weaker than these players. But for that you need a coach who has ideas and inspires his players the rage to win.
If Cunt was there, Bernardeschi would cry in the shower after each training rather than taking instagram photos with his dog.
We take the remains, exception of De Ligt, Real, Barca, Bayern are not beaten to have Rabiot, Matuidi, Ramsay, Khedira...
Vicious circle is like Americans who get a new credit card to pay off their previous credit.
If Cunt was there, Bernardeschi would cry in the shower after each training rather than taking instagram photos with his dog.
We take the remains, exception of De Ligt, Real, Barca, Bayern are not beaten to have Rabiot, Matuidi, Ramsay, Khedira...
Vicious circle is like Americans who get a new credit card to pay off their previous credit.
I think that would have been true up until a couple of years ago, but this is the strongest generation of young Italian players for about 20 years, in my opinion.
As examples:
Italy U23 selection in 1998:
1975 - Tacchinardi, Fiore, C. Lucarelli, Baiocco, Castelazzi
1976 - Totti, Nesta, Di Vaio, Oddo, S. Inzaghi, Legrottaglie, Liverani, Corradi, T. Locatelli, Di Michele, Vergassola
1977 - Zambrotta, Toni, Di Natale, Grosso, Perrotta, Abbiati, Coco, De Sanctis, Zanetti, Ambrosini, A. Lucarelli, Cirillo, Biava, Vannucchi, Cassetti, Storari, Rocchi
1978 - Buffon, Gattuso, Barone, D. Portanova, Caserta, Comotto
1979 - Pirlo, Iaquinta, Maccarone, Miccoli, Ferrari, Natali, Terlizzi, Dainelli, Bonazzoli, Tavano, Pellissier, Sorrentino
1980 - Blasi, Pelizzoli, Cossu, Maresca, Semioli, Bellini, Marchionni, Gobbi, Domizzi, Mauri
Italy U23 selection in 2009:
1986 - Marchisio, Osvaldo, Abate, Criscito, M. Motta, Valdifiori
1987 - Bonucci, Giovinco, G. Rossi, Candreva, Astori, Cerci, Sirigu, Sau, Acquafresca, Consigli, Dessena, Antonelli
1988 - Ranocchia, De Silvestri, Ogbonna
1989 - Bonaventura, Acerbi, Darmian, Poli, Schelotto, Okaka
1990 - Immobile, Balotelli, Paloschi
1991 - Insigne, Jorginho, Florenzi, Santon, Soriano, Zaza, Sansone, Borini, Destro, Gabbiadini, Bertolacci
Italy U23 selection in 2020:
1997 - Chiesa, Barella, Meret, Orsolini, Castrovilli, Mandragora, Audero, Romagna, Cistana, Pessina
1998 - M. Locatelli, Cutrone, Adjapong
1999 - Donnarumma, Zaniolo, Bastoni, Lc. Pellegrini, Pinamonti, Sottil, Brignola
2000 - Tonali, Kean, Vignato, Plizzari, Bettella, Bellanova
2001 - Pellegri, Salcedo, Ricci, Armini
2002 - Esposito, Pirola
On the topic of signing "young Italians", the likes of Lorenzo Pellegrini, Romagnoli, Mancini, Cristante, Petagna and Gollini are all 24-25 years old.
Obviously it's much easier to judge players whose careers are either finished or mostly complete than it is to those who are just starting, but I see more potential in this group than that from 10 years ago.
From that group you would have been sure Balotelli, Giovinco, Insigne, Rossi and Santon would have gone on to have glorious careers, and others there looked like 50-cap players, but you never know what the future holds. The difference between this squad and that one is that there was a disastrous event, i.e. failing to qualify for the Euros, and then a sea change in mentality with a coach who recognised that this was a talented group and was prepared to play them. Donnarumma, Chiesa, Barella, Zaniolo, Pellegrini, Sensi and Romagnoli have their foot in the door and are now established internationals, and Tonali and Castrovilli are shortly to be.
Couple of observations:
1) How fucking strong Italian players were 20 years ago.
2) Something about the years ending in "7" seems to be a bit more special than the rest.
I also had a look at players born in 1967 - Roberto Baggio, Lorenzo Minotti, Ciro Ferrara, Nicola Berti, Dario Hübner, Luigi Apolloni, Igor Protti, and our legendary
Can't wait to see what the class of 2007 throws up.
As examples:
Italy U23 selection in 1998:
1975 - Tacchinardi, Fiore, C. Lucarelli, Baiocco, Castelazzi
1976 - Totti, Nesta, Di Vaio, Oddo, S. Inzaghi, Legrottaglie, Liverani, Corradi, T. Locatelli, Di Michele, Vergassola
1977 - Zambrotta, Toni, Di Natale, Grosso, Perrotta, Abbiati, Coco, De Sanctis, Zanetti, Ambrosini, A. Lucarelli, Cirillo, Biava, Vannucchi, Cassetti, Storari, Rocchi
1978 - Buffon, Gattuso, Barone, D. Portanova, Caserta, Comotto
1979 - Pirlo, Iaquinta, Maccarone, Miccoli, Ferrari, Natali, Terlizzi, Dainelli, Bonazzoli, Tavano, Pellissier, Sorrentino
1980 - Blasi, Pelizzoli, Cossu, Maresca, Semioli, Bellini, Marchionni, Gobbi, Domizzi, Mauri
Italy U23 selection in 2009:
1986 - Marchisio, Osvaldo, Abate, Criscito, M. Motta, Valdifiori
1987 - Bonucci, Giovinco, G. Rossi, Candreva, Astori, Cerci, Sirigu, Sau, Acquafresca, Consigli, Dessena, Antonelli
1988 - Ranocchia, De Silvestri, Ogbonna
1989 - Bonaventura, Acerbi, Darmian, Poli, Schelotto, Okaka
1990 - Immobile, Balotelli, Paloschi
1991 - Insigne, Jorginho, Florenzi, Santon, Soriano, Zaza, Sansone, Borini, Destro, Gabbiadini, Bertolacci
Italy U23 selection in 2020:
1997 - Chiesa, Barella, Meret, Orsolini, Castrovilli, Mandragora, Audero, Romagna, Cistana, Pessina
1998 - M. Locatelli, Cutrone, Adjapong
1999 - Donnarumma, Zaniolo, Bastoni, Lc. Pellegrini, Pinamonti, Sottil, Brignola
2000 - Tonali, Kean, Vignato, Plizzari, Bettella, Bellanova
2001 - Pellegri, Salcedo, Ricci, Armini
2002 - Esposito, Pirola
On the topic of signing "young Italians", the likes of Lorenzo Pellegrini, Romagnoli, Mancini, Cristante, Petagna and Gollini are all 24-25 years old.
Obviously it's much easier to judge players whose careers are either finished or mostly complete than it is to those who are just starting, but I see more potential in this group than that from 10 years ago.
From that group you would have been sure Balotelli, Giovinco, Insigne, Rossi and Santon would have gone on to have glorious careers, and others there looked like 50-cap players, but you never know what the future holds. The difference between this squad and that one is that there was a disastrous event, i.e. failing to qualify for the Euros, and then a sea change in mentality with a coach who recognised that this was a talented group and was prepared to play them. Donnarumma, Chiesa, Barella, Zaniolo, Pellegrini, Sensi and Romagnoli have their foot in the door and are now established internationals, and Tonali and Castrovilli are shortly to be.
Couple of observations:
1) How fucking strong Italian players were 20 years ago.
2) Something about the years ending in "7" seems to be a bit more special than the rest.
I also had a look at players born in 1967 - Roberto Baggio, Lorenzo Minotti, Ciro Ferrara, Nicola Berti, Dario Hübner, Luigi Apolloni, Igor Protti, and our legendary
Can't wait to see what the class of 2007 throws up.
I think that would have been true up until a couple of years ago, but this is the strongest generation of young Italian players for about 20 years, in my opinion.
As examples:
Italy U23 selection in 1998:
1975 - Tacchinardi, Fiore, C. Lucarelli, Baiocco, Castelazzi
1976 - Totti, Nesta, Di Vaio, Oddo, S. Inzaghi, Legrottaglie, Liverani, Corradi, T. Locatelli, Di Michele, Vergassola
1977 - Zambrotta, Toni, Di Natale, Grosso, Perrotta, Abbiati, Coco, De Sanctis, Zanetti, Ambrosini, A. Lucarelli, Cirillo, Biava, Vannucchi, Cassetti, Storari, Rocchi
1978 - Buffon, Gattuso, Barone, D. Portanova, Caserta, Comotto
1979 - Pirlo, Iaquinta, Maccarone, Miccoli, Ferrari, Natali, Terlizzi, Dainelli, Bonazzoli, Tavano, Pellissier, Sorrentino
1980 - Blasi, Pelizzoli, Cossu, Maresca, Semioli, Bellini, Marchionni, Gobbi, Domizzi, Mauri
Italy U23 selection in 2009:
1986 - Marchisio, Osvaldo, Abate, Criscito, M. Motta, Valdifiori
1987 - Bonucci, Giovinco, G. Rossi, Candreva, Astori, Cerci, Sirigu, Sau, Acquafresca, Consigli, Dessena, Antonelli
1988 - Ranocchia, De Silvestri, Ogbonna
1989 - Bonaventura, Acerbi, Darmian, Poli, Schelotto, Okaka
1990 - Immobile, Balotelli, Paloschi
1991 - Insigne, Jorginho, Florenzi, Santon, Soriano, Zaza, Sansone, Borini, Destro, Gabbiadini, Bertolacci
Italy U23 selection in 2020:
1997 - Chiesa, Barella, Meret, Orsolini, Castrovilli, Mandragora, Audero, Romagna, Cistana, Pessina
1998 - M. Locatelli, Cutrone, Adjapong
1999 - Donnarumma, Zaniolo, Bastoni, Lc. Pellegrini, Pinamonti, Sottil, Brignola
2000 - Tonali, Kean, Vignato, Plizzari, Bettella, Bellanova
2001 - Pellegri, Salcedo, Ricci, Armini
2002 - Esposito, Pirola
On the topic of signing "young Italians", the likes of Lorenzo Pellegrini, Romagnoli, Mancini, Cristante, Petagna and Gollini are all 24-25 years old.
Obviously it's much easier to judge players whose careers are either finished or mostly complete than it is to those who are just starting, but I see more potential in this group than that from 10 years ago.
From that group you would have been sure Balotelli, Giovinco, Insigne, Rossi and Santon would have gone on to have glorious careers, and others there looked like 50-cap players, but you never know what the future holds. The difference between this squad and that one is that there was a disastrous event, i.e. failing to qualify for the Euros, and then a sea change in mentality with a coach who recognised that this was a talented group and was prepared to play them. Donnarumma, Chiesa, Barella, Zaniolo, Pellegrini, Sensi and Romagnoli have their foot in the door and are now established internationals, and Tonali and Castrovilli are shortly to be.
Couple of observations:
1) How fucking strong Italian players were 20 years ago.
2) Something about the years ending in "7" seems to be a bit more special than the rest.
I also had a look at players born in 1967 - Roberto Baggio, Lorenzo Minotti, Ciro Ferrara, Nicola Berti, Dario Hübner, Luigi Apolloni, Igor Protti, and our legendary
Can't wait to see what the class of 2007 throws up.
As examples:
Italy U23 selection in 1998:
1975 - Tacchinardi, Fiore, C. Lucarelli, Baiocco, Castelazzi
1976 - Totti, Nesta, Di Vaio, Oddo, S. Inzaghi, Legrottaglie, Liverani, Corradi, T. Locatelli, Di Michele, Vergassola
1977 - Zambrotta, Toni, Di Natale, Grosso, Perrotta, Abbiati, Coco, De Sanctis, Zanetti, Ambrosini, A. Lucarelli, Cirillo, Biava, Vannucchi, Cassetti, Storari, Rocchi
1978 - Buffon, Gattuso, Barone, D. Portanova, Caserta, Comotto
1979 - Pirlo, Iaquinta, Maccarone, Miccoli, Ferrari, Natali, Terlizzi, Dainelli, Bonazzoli, Tavano, Pellissier, Sorrentino
1980 - Blasi, Pelizzoli, Cossu, Maresca, Semioli, Bellini, Marchionni, Gobbi, Domizzi, Mauri
Italy U23 selection in 2009:
1986 - Marchisio, Osvaldo, Abate, Criscito, M. Motta, Valdifiori
1987 - Bonucci, Giovinco, G. Rossi, Candreva, Astori, Cerci, Sirigu, Sau, Acquafresca, Consigli, Dessena, Antonelli
1988 - Ranocchia, De Silvestri, Ogbonna
1989 - Bonaventura, Acerbi, Darmian, Poli, Schelotto, Okaka
1990 - Immobile, Balotelli, Paloschi
1991 - Insigne, Jorginho, Florenzi, Santon, Soriano, Zaza, Sansone, Borini, Destro, Gabbiadini, Bertolacci
Italy U23 selection in 2020:
1997 - Chiesa, Barella, Meret, Orsolini, Castrovilli, Mandragora, Audero, Romagna, Cistana, Pessina
1998 - M. Locatelli, Cutrone, Adjapong
1999 - Donnarumma, Zaniolo, Bastoni, Lc. Pellegrini, Pinamonti, Sottil, Brignola
2000 - Tonali, Kean, Vignato, Plizzari, Bettella, Bellanova
2001 - Pellegri, Salcedo, Ricci, Armini
2002 - Esposito, Pirola
On the topic of signing "young Italians", the likes of Lorenzo Pellegrini, Romagnoli, Mancini, Cristante, Petagna and Gollini are all 24-25 years old.
Obviously it's much easier to judge players whose careers are either finished or mostly complete than it is to those who are just starting, but I see more potential in this group than that from 10 years ago.
From that group you would have been sure Balotelli, Giovinco, Insigne, Rossi and Santon would have gone on to have glorious careers, and others there looked like 50-cap players, but you never know what the future holds. The difference between this squad and that one is that there was a disastrous event, i.e. failing to qualify for the Euros, and then a sea change in mentality with a coach who recognised that this was a talented group and was prepared to play them. Donnarumma, Chiesa, Barella, Zaniolo, Pellegrini, Sensi and Romagnoli have their foot in the door and are now established internationals, and Tonali and Castrovilli are shortly to be.
Couple of observations:
1) How fucking strong Italian players were 20 years ago.
2) Something about the years ending in "7" seems to be a bit more special than the rest.
I also had a look at players born in 1967 - Roberto Baggio, Lorenzo Minotti, Ciro Ferrara, Nicola Berti, Dario Hübner, Luigi Apolloni, Igor Protti, and our legendary
Can't wait to see what the class of 2007 throws up.
By that logic, we can sign Salah TAA Alli and could have signed Casemiro Varane etc...
Point is: NO Italian other than Juventus Italian players have appeared in big finals or stay relevant in the world class footballing spectrum over the past ten years. And the Juve ones who has appeared in big finals over the past ten years have ended up losing every one of them. Italian footballing blood is now officially a miserable failure. Juve is smart enough to abandon cultural heritage that hold evolution back.
To be frank, the next step for Juve is to be more ruthless and leave Serie A, or really do a super league. Or even perhaps join EPL. More money and more talents.
If we stay in serie A, i see Agnelli using his political power to remove the law of home grown players. Because the only things that have been homegrown in serie A are horse shiet. Montolivo, Balo, Immobile, Bernadeschi... oh gosh....pains me to see them wearing Azzuri Jersey.
Point is: NO Italian other than Juventus Italian players have appeared in big finals or stay relevant in the world class footballing spectrum over the past ten years. And the Juve ones who has appeared in big finals over the past ten years have ended up losing every one of them. Italian footballing blood is now officially a miserable failure. Juve is smart enough to abandon cultural heritage that hold evolution back.
To be frank, the next step for Juve is to be more ruthless and leave Serie A, or really do a super league. Or even perhaps join EPL. More money and more talents.
If we stay in serie A, i see Agnelli using his political power to remove the law of home grown players. Because the only things that have been homegrown in serie A are horse shiet. Montolivo, Balo, Immobile, Bernadeschi... oh gosh....pains me to see them wearing Azzuri Jersey.
Great planning by Tootsie - doesn't even have 30 million to bring in one of Italy's brightest prospects 
Let's see what other unpleasant surprises that fuckstick has for us during the mercato.
Let's see what other unpleasant surprises that fuckstick has for us during the mercato.
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You'd think these smaller clubs would be trying to hold out for more cuz its not like they have a ton of players they can sell for a lot of money.
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