Sami Khedira (61 Viewers)

Quetzalcoatl

It ain't hard to tell
Aug 22, 2007
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exactly. that's quite a lot. and 4 goals 3 assists isn't that bad eather.
But he doesn't tackle, intercept or score much. So what good is his positioning? 4 goals and 3 assists isn't bad, but it isn't "great". When he's not scoring or assisting, he's just there, being in a nice position to do... things :D
 

Quetzalcoatl

It ain't hard to tell
Aug 22, 2007
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...like Marchisio.
No. Marchisio hasn't even scored for the season, yet is still one of our best and most important players.

Khedira is great because his good positioning allows him to score goals and assists, yet only has 29 goals in a 238 game club career.

P.S. not trolling, DAI. He's a solid, dependable player. But great???
 

zizinho

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Apr 14, 2013
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No. Marchisio hasn't even scored for the season, yet is still one of our best and most important players.

Khedira is great because his good positioning allows him to score goals and assists, yet only has 29 goals in a 238 game club career.

P.S. not trolling, DAI. He's a solid, dependable player. But great???
Hes played as DM his entire time at Madrid. Also dont judge him by his career before he came here, only by how hes been for us
 
Jun 6, 2015
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But he doesn't tackle, intercept or score much. So what good is his positioning? 4 goals and 3 assists isn't bad, but it isn't "great". When he's not scoring or assisting, he's just there, being in a nice position to do... things :D
He hasn't played that much so 4 goals and 3 assist is more than decent but his main strength for me is that he almost never loses possession and is always available for a pass.

Khedira: goal or assist every 186 minutes in Serie A
Pogba: goal or assist every 178 minutes in Serie A

So in terms of production he's very close to Pogba the difference is that Pogba has played double the minutes. So would you say that 8 and 6 goals wouldn't be good enough.
 

Quetzalcoatl

It ain't hard to tell
Aug 22, 2007
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He hasn't played that much so 4 goals and 3 assist is more than decent but his main strength for me is that he almost never loses possession and is always available for a pass.

Khedira: goal or assist every 186 minutes in Serie A
Pogba: goal or assist every 178 minutes in Serie A

So in terms of production he's very close to Pogba the difference is that Pogba has played double the minutes. So would you say that 8 and 6 goals wouldn't be good enough.
You have to decide if his goal/assist ratio is a strength of his or not. Before Juve that rate was very low. And the sample size with Juve is too small to say it's a strength of his or something we can expect to continue

Those other things are true, but they don't really add much to a team who wants to be top 3 in Europe
 
Jun 6, 2015
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You have to decide if his goal/assist ratio is a strength of his or not. Before Juve that rate was very low. And the sample size with Juve is too small to say it's a strength of his or something we can expect to continue

Those other things are true, but they don't really add much to a team who wants to be top 3 in Europe
What are you talking about? I have to decide what his strength are? His strengths will be the same regardless of what I think.

I can't speak too much about him as a player before he played for Juve because I haven't seen enough of him playing back then but considering that before his injury he was a starter for Real and remained starter for Germany even after his injury I'd say we can safely say he was WC even then.

20 games is more than big enough sample size to see what the player has to offer and in case of Khedira he offers a lot in terms of stability and offers enough attacking impetus. I don't really see any weakness to his game which is probably the best compliment to give any midfielder.
 

Boksic

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May 11, 2005
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Khedira seems to be very underrated.

The main reason I can think of is that he isn't flashy. But his movement is exceptional, which opens teams up but is also very disciplined defensively.

He has been a key player for Germany from a very good youth team all the way up to winning the World Cup and to the present day. To say that he doesn't add much to a team that wants to be top 3 in Europe is not true.
 
Jun 6, 2015
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Khedira seems to be very underrated.

The main reason I can think of is that he isn't flashy. But his movement is exceptional, which opens teams up but is also very disciplined defensively.

He has been a key player for Germany from a very good youth team all the way up to winning the World Cup and to the present day. To say that he doesn't add much to a team that wants to be top 3 in Europe is not true.
:agree: Stating that Champions league, World cup, Bundesliga, La Liga and Copa del Rey winner can't play for a top 3 team in Europe doesn't really make sense.
 

zizinho

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Apr 14, 2013
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So you're saying he's great amd world class because he scored 4 goals and 3 assists in 1700 minutes?
Great way of twisting words. Im saying you can't have an impressive goalscoring record while being the DM in a 2 man midfield while having 4 offensive players infront of you. Scoring goals is not what you are supposed to do then
 

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