Saddam is no more.... (6 Viewers)

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Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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Easy. American troops will stay in Iraq, until the republican's loose to the democrats in the next presidency race. The democrats will pull out...and leave the country in chaos. End of problem.

That will hardly make him look good now will it? And that's what he's after. Don't forget we're dealing with a selfproclaimed crusader here.
 

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Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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Easy. American troops will stay in Iraq, until the republican's loose to the democrats in the next presidency race. The democrats will pull out...and leave the country in chaos. End of problem.
The country was already in chaos, so there wouldn't be much of a difference. Just more deaths on the part of the Sunnis.
 

Rami

The Linuxologist
Dec 24, 2004
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That will hardly make him look good now will it? And that's what he's after. Don't forget we're dealing with a selfproclaimed crusader here.
Well he is running out of time...AND solutions. I doubt a year will be enough to rectify his mistake.

@ Burke: well then get ready for a LONG stay over here. I really don't see this problem going away anytime soon!
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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#48
Depends on who you work for.
Perhaps, but under Saddam you at least knew what you were up against. Violence seems much more random these days. As for Bush doing completely nothing and playing a waiting game, I don't buy that theory. The only thing he's concerned about still is his image and right now he looks ridiculous. I'm sure he'll come up with somethin to try and change that.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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#49
I talked to a guy I know in the Marines who has done 2 tours in Iraq and he said that it is like the US soldiers lose 10 a day, and the Iraqis lose 100.
Too bad theIraqis don't lose soldiers.

The death toll on civilians is simply outrageous if you ask me. Why judge Milosevic if you're going to let Bush get away with it?

Especially because the war wasn't based on wrong information, but on false information.
 

Rami

The Linuxologist
Dec 24, 2004
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The country was already in chaos, so there wouldn't be much of a difference. Just more deaths on the part of the Sunnis.
No it was not in chaos. People were suffering, injustices and crimes commited every day by Saddam, his regime, and the sanctions (people tend to forget this last bit)...True. But it was stable. Everybody was at least living and minding his own business....

Now the country on the verge of a civil war, where minding your own business doesn't really cut it...
 

Rami

The Linuxologist
Dec 24, 2004
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#52
Too bad theIraqis don't lose soldiers.

The death toll on civilians is simply outrageous if you ask me. Why judge Milosevic if you're going to let Bush get away with it?

Especially because the war wasn't based on wrong information, but on false information.
And execute Saddam? Execute Bush!
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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If you ask me, Americans in general aren't really gaining much from Bush. When I look around I honestly see people asking themselves if the general population of the USA is really that dumb. I mean, whether you like it or not, he did get elected. How on earth is that even possible? The guy can't talk FFS.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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No it was not in chaos. People were suffering, injustices and crimes commited every day by Saddam, his regime, and the sanctions (people tend to forget this last bit)...True. But it was stable.
Seems like a contradiction to me. So that was Iraq's version of stable? What a sad place in the world to live then.

Whatever the case, that country was fucked over for a long time.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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#58
Iraq was stable, Andy. Besides even if it was a horrible regime America had no bussiness spreading "democray" and "freedom" there. What kind of nation Iraq is, is the problem of the Iraqis. Perhaps if an organised rebellion against Saddam had asked your interference it would have been someswhat justified. Invading a country based on false pretences, only to change them afterwards and say you "wanted to help them" is a cold blow to any form of agreement nations worldwide have had since WW II.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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#60
If you ask me, Americans in general aren't really gaining much from Bush. When I look around I honestly see people asking themselves if the general population of the USA is really that dumb. I mean, whether you like it or not, he did get elected. How on earth is that even possible? The guy can't talk FFS.
But the thing is, it's not about how a person can talk, it's about what party he represents. If some fucking retard who represents my party needs my vote because we both love to shoot deer during the Fall hunting seasons, I'm gonna goddamn give it to him. That's the problem with this country... a blind bicameral system. These people only look at the issues that affect them first and foremost. So we have this nonsense of a president who certainly does not represent the majority of beliefs of the United States... just the biased views of general issues, such as being an imbecile republican. Which occurs at a slim margin anyway,
 
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