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    Chechens are the most hated nationality in Russia alongside with dagestan and ingushetia, mostly because of their terrorists and very very bad behavior of their people in Moscow and other cities. Plus Dagestan, Chechnya, Ingushetia are subsidized regions, Moscow is sending a lot of money there and people dislike it, Ramzan Kadyrov is a dictator in Chechnya, he is keeping the peace in region, while he is giving special force unit that will follow him and Putin anywhere, just look at the members of that specforce and their cars :sergio:
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    Golden pistols and fancy cars when the per capita GDP of the region is $5,023 US, how typical :sergio:. Why do the Russians not just give them full independence and cut all ties with them then? Everyone gets what they want and they never even have to communicate with each other again.
    if you give them the independence will beAgain war and terrorists
    Putin was simply giving money to Kadyrov that controls these animals
     
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    Golden pistols and fancy cars when the per capita GDP of the region is $5,023 US, less than Angola, how typical :sergio:. Why do the Russians not just give them full independence and cut all ties with them then? Everyone gets what they want and they never even have to communicate with each other again.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Russian_federal_subjects_by_GDP_per_capita
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita
    There is a natural gas and some oil in Chechnya, but the main thing is that Kadyrov's father was Putin's friend, maybe that's the key...who knows...plus like i've said Kadyrov Jr. is giving special force to Putin
     

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    Kadyrov is nothing more than Putin's puppet in the region, he keeps the Islamist element under control whilst rebuilding the economy. It seems Kadyrov and his boys are happy to ride around in supercars paid for with their 10%.
     
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    I can't see this lasting too long.
    Back in 90's, USSR government decided to split Chechnya and Ingushetia, right after it around 90% of the people of Chenchya are voted for independence and for the new president, like other ex-ussr countries they could do that, they have chosen radical islamic leader, ex-colonel Dudaev, they renamed their country to Ichkeria, they've started to haunt ethnically russians and what Eltsin did?! Instead of saving russians and transfer them to Moscow or any other region and closing the borderline with Chechnya, he send all the troops to Chenchya as liberation mission but what the point to get rid of the president that was chosen by more than 90% of chechens people?! And the 1st chechen war has begun :sergio: the rumours has it that somebody from his environment has said to Eltsin that there are very very very large oil reserves in Chechnya :sergio:

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    I can't see this lasting too long.
    Putin will be our president until 2018 atleast :sergio: have you ever seen that The State Duma and the Senate approved a change in the constitution in 5 minutes? In Russia it's happened!
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    Yeah I remember as a kid growing up hearing a lot on the news, the terrorist attacks and bombings etc between Russia and Chechyna. So that's why it seems to be more calm these days, Putin has a little lapdog there in place.
     

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    Juventino[RUS];4135246 said:
    Back in 90's, USSR government decided to split Chechnya and Ingushetia, right after it around 90% of the people of Chenchya are voted for independence and for the new president, like other ex-ussr countries they could do that, they have chosen radical islamic leader, ex-colonel Dudaev, they renamed their country to Ichkeria, they've started to haunt ethnically russians and what Eltsin did?! Instead of saving russians and transfer them to Moscow or any other region and closing the borderline with Chechnya, he send all the troops to Chenchya as liberation mission but what the point to get rid of the president that was chosen by more than 90% of chechens people?! And the 1st chechen war has begun :sergio: the rumours has it that somebody from his environment has said to Eltsin that there are very very very large oil reserves in Chechnya :sergio:

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    Putin will be our president until 2018 atleast :sergio: have you ever seen that The State Duma and the Senate approved a change in the constitution in 5 minutes? In Russia it's happened!
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    Yeah I remember as a kid growing up hearing a lot on the news, the terrorist attacks and bombings etc between Russia and Chechyna. So that's why it seems to be more calm these days, Putin has a little lapdog there in place.
    With the little I know, I still think the best option for Russia would be to just let them have an election again and don't even bother with the region again except for trade. As for Putin, even once he leaves office he'll definitely have someone to do his bidding installed no doubt. Quite a few Russians I've spoken to think that democracy cannot work in Russia, that they need a "strong hand" to guide them.

    The only thing I can recall involving Russia and Chechens from my childhood is this disgusting act:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beslan_school_hostage_crisis
     
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    With the little I know, I still think the best option for Russia would be to just let them have an election again and don't even bother with the region again except for trade. As for Putin, even once he leaves office he'll definitely have someone to do his bidding installed no doubt. Quite a few Russians I've spoken to think that democracy cannot work in Russia, that they need a "strong hand" to guide them.

    The only thing I can recall involving Russia and Chechens from my childhood is this disgusting act:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beslan_school_hostage_crisis
    Yep, we need a "strong hand", but after Stalin period we didn't had one :sergio: Stalin was very good, we won a huge war, we started spaceship program, we were the most progressive economy etc. etc., don't listen to anybody who is talking shit about him, the repressions, thestarvation and some other crap, there were a lot of bad people in the government in that period and Stalin couldn't remove them in 1 day, he spent around 6-7 years to do it! And the propaganda against Stalin in USSR has begun because of Khrushchev, jealous motherfucker, he was anti-stalinist, he was attributing all the troubles and tribulations of the Soviet Union to Stalin's name! Even today, Stalin is the of the most popular personalities in Russia, but many are doing everything to discredit him. Look what kind of personal items he left after his death:
    1. Notebook for records in a cover of gray skin color;
    2. Notebook, leather, red;
    3. Personal records, notes, compiled on separate sheets of paper and vouchers. Numbered only 67 sheets (sixty-seven)
    4. Overall notebook with records cover is red;
    5. Smoking pipes - 5. These 4 boxes and specials. devices, and tobacco. In the office of Comrade Stalin: books, desk accessories, gifts are not included in the list.
    The master bedroom and dressing room:
    6. Tunic white - 2 pieces.
    7. Gray tunic, p / day - 2 pcs.;
    8. Tunic of dark green - 2 pieces.;
    9. Pants - 10;
    He was absolutely modest leader of the country

    As for terrorism - fuck'em all, for me terrorism has no nationality and i have no problems with the muslims, but whenever the normal peaceful muslims are telling me that there is no such a thing like "holy war" in Quran it's makes me sick, day after day radical muslims are kiling people, and i can't call it "holy war" at all because mostly they are killing other muslims just because some of them are sunni, others are shiites or salafis. Just look at the boston terrorits for example, what they lacked in life? The oThey were so lucky to escape from Chechnya during the war, pulled the lucky ticket and moved to USA, they had a normal life, younger was in college, older was boxing, so why the hell they did that?! Like i heard Obama promised citizenship to all illegal or halflegal people in the USA, so just live ur life and enjoy, but no, it's better to blow up somebody :sergio:



    http://vk.com/id160300242 - this is 2nd terrorist account in the russian social network, last time he was at the website on 19 april 5am moscow time ~ around midnight in Boston, so police were already around their crib at that time lol
    I'm going to translate you some posts that were published there by other users
    "May allah forgive you. Death to all infidels!" - http://vk.com/chen_hong - muslim
    "Kill them all! I want you to kill them both by day and night! They did not understand the lesson! Embedding of the airplane in their mother For the sake of Allah do it. Alhamdullilyah!" http://vk.com/soslan_95 - muslim
    "Insha Allah! Death to America!" http://vk.com/id160300242 - muslim
    "Infidels got his own! Today Moscow is ours, and soon Boston take Inshallah!!" http://vk.com/ilham_90 muslim

    What the fuck is going on with all of them?
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    On the other hand, conspiracy theory has begun already, people are talking about this organization - www.thecraft.com and check this picture http://cs521611.vk.me/u9610198/doc/6db5c69240f0/file.jpg
    @AFL_ITALIA Looking strange, what these army mens are doing there all together?
     

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